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Old 25th April 2009, 23:19   #16
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Most classics i own had a setbelt as an option, though they are the older style that wrap around your stomach, most fan sites for respective marques always have links for classic setbelt adaptations and suppliers.
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Old 26th April 2009, 00:24   #18
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Originally Posted by anjan_c2007 View Post
Like in the U.K. they have a MOT (Ministry of Transport) fitness test for older cars every 12 months. Its a tough test to get through. Indicators are compulsory and so we find them in all old cars there. I have to ask my friend about compulsory seat belts for old cars there.
I somehow am doubtful about indicators being compulsory on cars prior to the rule- I've sen loads of pics. of classics in the UK that didnt have them fitted.
They are also exempted from the seatbelt rule (which came about in the mid 60s I'm told, so you can find them on cars that came after that period, but not BEFORE) and also changes in numberplate colours etc. unlike in our case!

The good thing is that there, they have a huge federation for historic vehicles that back them up should they face any legal implications like these.

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Old 27th April 2009, 17:53   #19
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In the UK the MOT is applicable to car over 3 years old. But for vintage cars (not sure of the cut off date), the regulations are different.

The MOT regulations have a 'Original Design' clause, which applies in this case.
The main things they look for are smoke and rusting. The cars dont have to meet exhaust emissions and as for the indicators and seat belts - the vehicle will only fail if the items were OE. If a car has semaphores or indicators they should be working properly.
The same applies to steering wheels - A relative amount of play is permissable, but the mechanisms should be leak free and smooth.

Like motorbikes there are alot of specilist places for getting MOTs done on classic and vintage car/bikes.

EDIT: Some Q&A's that i found online. Thought they might be helpful -

My 1972 mini has just failed on hazard warning lights. They are not fitted nor have they ever been. Should the Test centre fail on this? - G. Mears
The MOT Tester’s Manual says: “Vehicles first used before 1st April 1986 A hazard warning device is not required by regulation, but if one is fitted it must be Tested.” - MOTT

I have a 1961 MGA and have just been told by my local garage that it will require to have a means to prevent the driver an passenger seats tipping forward. As this car is a 2 seat vehicle, with the hood/roof being stored behind the seats, fixing the seats in an immovable position will: Change the original nature of the car Cause difficulty in raising the canvas double-duck hood Can you please tell me if this will be a legal requirement for vehicles in the 'classic' (over 25 years) age-group? Thanks E H CROSSEN
Provided your vehicle was never fitted with a mechanism to lock the seats down, then it should not fail the MOT on the seats themselves because the MOT regulations contain a clause which, under the heading “Original Design”, says “Original design characteristics and specialised modifications (eg to enable wheel chair access) are to be accepted”. But you're not ‘in the clear’ yet! There is another requirement that if the seat belts are fitted to the seats, and not to the vehicle itself, then a failure will apply “for seats with seat belts attached to them; any insecure attachment of the seat to the vehicle structure”, and if the seat tilts forward I suspect a Tester could be within his or her rights to decide that is an “insecure attachment”. There’s no proviso at all in this section regarding “Original design”. MOTT

These were on the website - The MOT Test and UK MOT Testing

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Thanks Stanher and Tahir for the information.SS Traveller that T shirt is a "sankat mochan kavach", I feel. Splendid idea! After the teambhp stickers lets hope the forum gives us T shirts with such a design.
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