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Old 17th September 2009, 16:37   #61
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we can take a few leaves out of the way this is managed by the London Taxi chaps

they kept the old taxi image but simply scrapped the old smoke spewing cars for new, clean, green vehicles.

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very sad, those black and yellow fiat taxis is a part of BOMBAY's image,hope they are not scrapped in one go
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I would only like the Classic Owners to speak here and not general public who may be envious of people owning Classic Cars.

We have spent a lot of money and time looking after our cars and we do not want envious people or idiots trying to spoil it for us.
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To put it in a milder way
Only a few will understand the true value of a classic so it best people who don't understand classics do not ridicule people owning one
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The issue here is much larger than vintage and classic cars.

What about the person driving an 80's Padmini, Amby or Maruti and the like? Many of my Fiats will not qualify as Classic etc.

A relative in Bombay has an 88 Maurti. It is his only car. Selling it would get him peanuts, a new purchase is not possible at this point. What will he do if his car is ordered off the road? This is a car which meets PUC, fitness, registration, tax, insurance...
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Its amazing how blinkered a vision our politicos / babus exhibit ! Going on free junkets to Singapore / London / God knows where else does not qualify one to pass judgements on or make suggestions on issues one has no knowledge of.
God save us from these guys. Whatever happens, I'm pretty clear on one thing- my car is not going off the road. And I'm willing to put up as much fight as it takes, to deal with these guys.
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Aye Aye Captain!! Where do we make a stand!! Ill get the Ammo!!
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Aye Aye Captain!! Where do we make a stand!! Ill get the Ammo!!
Way to go mate !! I'll be the 'last man standing' when it comes to saving my Fiat .
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The government has announced introduction of a 'green tax' for private vehicles older than 15 years. For privately owned petrol vehicles the amount is Rs. 3000 for 5 years.

State triples fines for traffic offences, to levy green tax on old vehicles
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Nitin Dossa too has commented, although for vested interests, that this will burden the middle class car buyer, the old cars are well maintained and comply to the pollution norms.
The government cannot limit the registration of new cars leading to a compressed traffic situation, forget about the people driving them. This is for two reasons, going by Peter Druckers theory -Automobile industry is the industry of industries. Lower production will have cascading effect on other manufacturing sectors. Registration and other charges is a revenue generator. Secondly the govt. wants to be populist in nature.
Effect of which, an enthusiast like me has started hating cars, will prefer to take a bus or cab than drive in Mumbai traffic.


PS- There are more less than 15 year olds than 15 year old vehicles on road in numbai.
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I do not see how this is going to help the environment to be honest.

Honestly, how many vehicles do you think actually are plying? A small percentage, for sure. These are vehicles mainly used by people who cannot afford to upgrade to a newer car. These cars by and large do not cover heavy milage in a year - it is fairly obvious. By and large they are fairly well maintained, meet fitness and PUC requirements. Their contribution to pollution is just a fraction. The major contribution is of course from commercial vehicles which are so shoddily maintained, its a miracle they still get away with it.

Charging an owner 600 rupees a year WILL NOT push him to buy a new car! This is a soft target.
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To be honest with you my view is that this a ploy for the officials to make money.

There has to be a side income na... Buss this is the way...

Loot lo...
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Hi all,

If the government is serious about keeping a control on/reducing pollution in the country/city, then it is a good idea to scrap cars which are of a certain age and will add to pollution if still used. However, I believe that the government has also given a choice to those who would like to keep their cars after the stipulated number of years and can do so by paying a particular tax or taxes which is also fair enough as long as these cars are well maintained and poses no hazzards to safety on roads or to environment.

However, the government has to understand that this would make life difficult for the common man. Most families usually upgrade from a motocycle to a car like a Maruti Alto, Tata Nano, etc or buy a car as a second vehicle to take family out on the weekends. Some even upgrade from a motocycle to a good second hand car.

So why doesnt the government encourage citizens to help decrease pollution by scrapping their cars after 15 years but at the same time make cars in India more affordable? Today there is no fully loaded sedan with actual safety features that costs less than 10 lakhs! How is the common man supossed to afford that? And lets not even go to the smaller vehicles. They may cost 2 lakhs but can catch fire anytime without warning.
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Guys lets not beat this topic to death, we are the common man and we have a grave responsibility on our shoulders, we need to fund events like the commonwealth games and other scams so that a select few in this country can make money from them and drive around in some of the most expensive white coloured vehicles in the country. It is our obligation and we have to pay for it. Afterall they are the new breed of Maharajas.

Until the time like the Taxi drivers Union in Bombay who manage to keep all the junk on the road (some of the cars are almost ready to produce fossil fuels), the common man doesnt create his own Union, please learn to bear the pain and Pay the tax (green) Sic!
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The government has announced introduction of a 'green tax' for private vehicles older than 15 years. For privately owned petrol vehicles the amount is Rs. 3000 for 5 years.

State triples fines for traffic offences, to levy green tax on old vehicles
Here is the cutting from the Headlines in TOI - Mumbai Edition, 5th Aug '10.
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Govt planning to phase out 20 yr old PRIVATE cars - 25.06.09, Mumbai TOI, pg 3-picture.jpg  

Govt planning to phase out 20 yr old PRIVATE cars - 25.06.09, Mumbai TOI, pg 3-picture-001.jpg  

Govt planning to phase out 20 yr old PRIVATE cars - 25.06.09, Mumbai TOI, pg 3-picture-002.jpg  

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I do not see how this is going to help the environment to be honest.
The green tax is meant to be a disincentive to own an old car. But 3,000 bucks every 5 years (or 600 per annum) is hardly a disincentive. Too low and thus, ineffective toward the intended purpose. A typical half-hearted approach from the Government which doesn't really solve anything.
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