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Old 22nd November 2012, 18:34   #556
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What i meant to say was that the valuation at today's rates is not abnormal or spectacular. The problem lies in the market crashing for Fiat values. A decent Fiat can be had for 25K now where as it was the same in 1990. So it has crashed badly while the beetle has gone around 20X. It has appreciated well but considering inflation it is not that dramatic. A better case would be a Jaguar that was sold in 2003 or so for around 5 Lakhs and now the same thing is on sale for 60L or even the case of Beetles that were available for 50k not so long ago is now at least 5-6L.
Good Original running beetles were not available at Rs.50000/- in the past 10 years in South India. I remember an enthusiast friend from Chennai buying a beetle in not mechanically okay condition and for Rs.1.2 lakhs in 2003 itself.Very good original beetles can still be had for around 5-6 lakhs.
So the price of Classic fiats(millicento,elegant to superselect) have also risen manyfold.an elegant/superselect in very good condition would have been available for less than Rs.20000/- ten years back but you would have to pay around one lakh for a similar condition one these days
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Good Original running beetles were not available at Rs.50000/- in the past 10 years in South India. I remember an enthusiast friend from Chennai buying a beetle in not mechanically okay uld have to pay around one lakh for a similar condition one these days
In 1988 my friend's aunt sold her white 1975 model VW Beetle for 75000/-.
That seems a bargain with todays value of money but in 1988 75k was pretty big money!
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In 1988 my friend's aunt sold her white 1975 model VW Beetle for 75000/-.
That seems a bargain with todays value of money but in 1988 75k was pretty big money!
Why 1988? In 1995 I lost out on a beetle in my building for 25k I continued to hold out. In 2003- 2008 I continued to be offered beetles for below a lakh of rupees but then I am spoilt,even my rarest car was never bought for anywhere close to what beetles in junky state are being offered at. I think it's a phase and once there is a ample supply of second hand current generation beetles for about 6-10 lakhs many may prefer to go that way. Atleast I did when I decided to choose over the creature comforts of a new fiat 500 over the original one. Cheers and happy beetle hunting!

I however still feel that prices of a 57 fiat within centrelight are still undervalued and bound to go up in the near future, I have one and what a character it has in original condition! My recommendation to anyone who can't find a VW at the right price.

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i recently advertised on the net , as i looked for a fintail/ponton. two owners have come forward with nice cars, both below 8 lacs, and i shall decide soon.

i would like to share with you , what a third person emailed :

" We have Mercedes 180 D - 1956 - Ponton and a Mercedes 200 - 1960 - Fin tail for sale and expect a price of Rs. 100 lacs each (Not Negotiable). These are the rare cars, probably one of the few cars available in India. "

left me shocked.

its impossible to deal with such 'priceless' offers.
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Why 1988? In 1995 I lost out on a beetle in my building for 25k I continued to hold out. In 2003- 2008 I continued to be offered beetles for below a lakh of rupees but then I am spoilt,even my rarest car was never bought for anywhere close to what beetles in junky state are being offered at. I think it's a phase and once there is a ample supply of second hand current generation beetles for about 6-10 lakhs many may prefer to go that way. Atleast I did when I decided to choose over the creature comforts of a new fiat 500 over the original one. Cheers and happy beetle hunting!

I however still feel that prices of a 57 fiat within centrelight are still undervalued and bound to go up in the near future, I have one and what a character it has in original condition! My recommendation to anyone who can't find a VW at the right price.
How can you say that a fiat elegant is undervalued currently.Good examples are already being quoted at 1.5-2 lakhs!!
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I've been buying and selling old cars since the late 1970's and have always found that the eventual "market value" for any car is what the owner is willing to let it go for and what the buyer is willing to pay.
At one time I bought a SS1.5 ltr for a mere 20,000/- did the necessary work on it, used it for 5 years and sold it for what I then thought was a HUGE profit . I got 30,000/- and thought I had made a killing. Considering I then bought a very nice Austin A40 Devon for only 8000/-I guess it was a reasonable deal. Of course today I regret selling both cars!!!
Prices go up and fall and then go up again. Today I think many sellers have a very inflated price in mind when deciding to sell an old car and this is due to the fact that there are many people out there willing to shell out huge ammounts for something they think they cannot do without. They do have to impress the Joanse's dont they!!!

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i would like to share with you , what a third person emailed :

" We have Mercedes 180 D - 1956 - Ponton and a Mercedes 200 - 1960 - Fin tail for sale and expect a price of Rs. 100 lacs each (Not Negotiable). These are the rare cars, probably one of the few cars available in India. "
I hope he did not offer my 1956 180D for sale some people have told me that pictures of my car are being circulated claiming it to be on sale. Anyways i would be interested to see which 180D has been offered to you for sale.

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How can you say that a fiat elegant is undervalued currently.Good examples are already being quoted at 1.5-2 lakhs!!
I would love to get another car original or restored just like mine (condition and otherwise) at the price you quote. Putting up a pic here to refresh your memory.
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I hope he did not offer my 1956 180D for sale some people have told me that pictures of my car are being circulated claiming it to be on sale. Anyways i would be interested to see which 180D has been offered to you for sale.



I would love to get another car original or restored just like mine (condition and otherwise) at the price you quote. Putting up a pic here to refresh your memory.
Kindly note that I used the phrase "'good examples"' and not "'Concourse"" or ""Exceptional"".Being a mass produced car and still available in fairly enough numbers the price mentioned definitely is not an undervaluation.For your info a near concourse condition 1955 millicento(was in TBHP classifieds also) got sold for Rs.2lakhs a few months.
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Kindly note that I used the phrase "'good examples"' and not "'Concourse"" or ""Exceptional"".Being a mass produced car and still available in fairly enough numbers the price mentioned definitely is not an undervaluation.For your info a near concourse condition 1955 millicento(was in TBHP classifieds also) got sold for Rs.2lakhs a few months.
Definately not an undervaluation, but then top cars can never be valuated to any rational logic. Infact i never restored my car with a budget in mind, so i know that i have the most expensive 57 Fiat in the world. Jokes aside. I personally feel that in the 1953-1957 bodied Fiat 1100, a 1957 will appreciate the most as it was only produced for one year and has absolutely unique cosmetics, meters and tailights as compared to 1100's before it and after it. But then yes it was a mass produced car, but only for one year.
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Not really a classic but mentioning it here because it was advertised under ''antique''!! Note the price
http://palakkad.olx.in/1982-model-co...-iid-473262954
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Another good Mark1 ambassador but the asking price spoils its beauty!!
http://thrissur.olx.in/1962-ohv-amba...-iid-474411539.
An above average fiat 1100 with unrealistic pricing.
http://kochi.olx.in/italian-1100d-fiat-iid-473956406
It seems in Northern Kerala the current trend is to quote Atrocious prices for mass produced old cars because there are no real classic or vintage cars available for sale there
Otherwise how can these people quote these prices when fully restored Morris Minors and Vauxhalls are lying unsold for similar prices!!!

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Folks; What would be the fair valuation on this one:
http://jaipur.olx.in/vintage-and-cla...-iid-451388508
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Folks; What would be the fair valuation on this one:
http://jaipur.olx.in/vintage-and-cla...-iid-451388508
The ad has been there for 3 months now,so the valuation is definitely on the upper circuit.In my view a fair value for this car should be around Rs.7 to 8 lakhs if it has the original petrol engine .If it was a V8 Commander or President ,it would have had more value
Recently a restored 1932 Chevrolet straight six was advertised in Delhi for eleven lakhs
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Here is a letter written by a veteran enthusiast from Bombay in the February issue of AUTOINDIA.So even people who are outside the forum are now opining of the unrealistic valuations some people quote for any old car irrespective of marque
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http://pune.olx.in/urgently-i-want-t...-iid-482396153

Check the price, its got an extra zero
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