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Old 20th December 2013, 06:51   #46
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Mysore Bentley Mk VI Chassis B47EW (previously registered BYH-2829), now at the Miami Auto Museum (Dezer Collection)

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Mysore Bentley Mk VI Chassis B47EW (previously registered BYH-2829), now at the Miami Auto Museum (Dezer Collection)
Travancore. What a beauty. Is there a "Court of Arms" on the door? Hope we can get a picture of the same.

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Travancore. What a beauty. Is there a "Coat of Arms" on the door? Hope we can get a picture of the same.

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There is on this car (a reproduction of the original). I do not have a picture, will look for one.

Hooper supposedly made a whole bunch of them in silver, for the Mysore fleet.

Meanwhile, here is another "Mysore" Bentley Mk VI that just showed up on the web. Supposedly a 1948 Hooper 4-light Saloon. I know nothing more!

(courtesy Cooks Upholstery & Restoration http://cooksupholsterycr.blogspot.com/

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Mysore Bentley Mk VI Chassis B47EW (previously registered BYH-2829), now at the Miami Auto Museum (Dezer Collection) (courtesy: autominded.com)
Thanks Travancore for the update.the car has been featured earlier . It was in a long time ownership with the BATLIWALA family in Mumbai where this picture was taken at their house . The old lady still stays there at a wonderful Bunglow at MALABAR hill and in the study is huge picture of this car . Her son or brother took the car to the US and now it's at the Museum . When in Bombay the crest on the door is missing Cheers
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........... Her son or brother took the car to the US and now it's at the Museum . When in Bombay the crest on the door is missing Cheers
Oops Kasli, you got it wrong. Yes, its the Batliwala car, when it was exported it went to UK and the car still bears a UK registration. When they applied to VCCCI for the export, they were asked to enter the forthcoming VCCCI vintage car rally which they did. Julian had posted about this car reappearing in UK with this registration. Then she was sold on, now landed in a Museum in USA.
It is common in India that owners prefer to sell their wares abroad rather than in India, it would have fetched more in India. Many of our Maharajas were like that, remember Nabha? And where is the Holkar Bentley?

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Harit, '

The Holkar Bentley, sold to a foreigner based in Delhi, I believe has finally left Indian shores. Surely you are aware ??

Quite frankly, I see no reason why any owner should be restricted from selling his car abroad. But this is a sensitive topic so I will not elaborate.

The Nabha Swan car, illegally exported, seems to be nicely restored , I wonder what happened to the case filed in Indian courts against various people involved, was the matter compromised?? One hears nothing about it .
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Well the grandson was a classmate and the car was in the US last near New York so I presumed that it went there directly. Thanks for the correction.

The Holkar Bentley I was told is in Qatar along with many Holkar Palace artifacts and last told even certain rooms of the palace ( red Palace ) replicated there . Who has the car I am not aware and Harit you know the rest


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Oops Kasli, you got it wrong. Yes, its the Batliwala car, when it was exported it went to UK and the car still bears a UK registration. When they applied to VCCCI for the export, they were asked to enter the forthcoming VCCCI vintage car rally which they did. Julian had posted about this car reappearing in UK with this registration. Then she was sold on, now landed in a Museum in USA.
It is common in India that owners prefer to sell their wares abroad rather than in India, it would have fetched more in India. Many of our Maharajas were like that, remember Nabha? And where is the Holkar Bentley?

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Harit, '

The Holkar Bentley, sold to a foreigner based in Delhi, I believe has finally left Indian shores........Quite frankly, I see no reason why any owner should be restricted from selling his car abroad......
The Nabha Swan car, illegally exported, seems to be nicely restored , I wonder what happened to the case filed in Indian courts against various people involved, was the matter compromised?? One hears nothing about it .
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...........and Harit you know the rest Cheers
Here is the problem.
A pre 1960 car can be taken out by a family having owned it for several years, and a family member takes it. That is what happened to a SS which went to Australia, a certain Lanchester which went to New Zealand, and another Mysore Bentley (Teardrop) which went to UK. I believe that these cars were still in family ownership till recently. The Batliwala Bentley went out as a family heirloom, only to be sold on. Once gone, Indian Government has no control. Therefore a foreigner taking the Holkar Bentley is not correct, even if one sees no reason to restrict, it is the law. Even if he were to be a diplomat.

I am not aware of any "rest", I believe that there are no "rests", the car seems to have landed in Qatar. I only know that the last pictures I saw of it were with a famed restorer and historian sitting in it, what was the connection I don't know.

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Meanwhile, here is another "Mysore" Bentley Mk VI that just showed up on the web. Supposedly a 1948 Hooper 4-light Saloon. I know nothing more!

(courtesy Cooks Upholstery & Restoration http://cooksupholsterycr.blogspot.com/
I was under the impression there were six Bentley Mk VIs for Mysore - could there have been more?

Here are the 6 Mysore Mk VIs we've seen so far (thanks to generous posters in the past)

1948 James Young 2 Door Saloon,
#B125AJ (MRX 8563 - Bhogilal)

1949 Park Ward DHC,
#B438CF (RJD 101 - Nitin Dossa)

1949 H J Mulliner DHC,
#B216EY (BYH 2775 - Jeejeebhoy)

1949 Hooper 4 light saloon,
#B294EY (MRJ 3371 - Poonawalla)

1949 Hooper Sedanca “tear drop” Coupe,
#B47EW (BYH 2829 - Reporter/Batliwalla, now Miami)

1950 Gurney Nutting Sedanca “tear drop” coupe,
#B214EY (MRZ 7000 - Apte)
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I was under the impression there were six Bentley Mk VIs for Mysore - could there have been more?

Here are the 6 Mysore Mk VIs we've seen so far (thanks to generous posters in the past)
Karl, thanks for consolidating the list!

"Doing a Mysore" supposedly meant buying 7 or more at a time (or in close succession). So is this the "missing" (seventh) one ?
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The 1911 Rolls-Royce 40/50hp Silver Ghost Ceremonial Victoria Chassis no. 1683 Engine no. 91K (ex-chassis 1680) had this umbrella fitted on the rear of the car. Do you think that the umbrella was for the Maharaja when the canvas hood was down?

Anyways this is quite odd considering this is an open car

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Source : http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19289/lot/221/

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The 1911 Rolls-Royce 40/50hp Silver Ghost Ceremonial Victoria Chassis no. 1683 Engine no. 91K (ex-chassis 1680) had this umbrella fitted on the rear of the car.

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Just saw this car. See a teaser picture here.

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Hoping to get a better Camera to get some good pictures.

Its in an well preserved condition, will dig around for more info

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Hoping to get a better Camera to get some good pictures.

Its in an well preserved condition, will dig around for more info

Best Regards & Drive Safe

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I could not get a better Camera. So had to do with the Iphone.

The Car is on Display at the St. Regis Hotel, Doha Qatar. Its in a very prominent position inside the main lobby.

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As soon as I walked in and saw the car - thanks to KPS - I knew what it was.

The car is owned by the Rolls Royce, Doha, Qatar dealership, who are also the dealers for a host brands of luxury cars and bikes (I think they own the hotel property as well). The fact that its owned by the RR dealership is very evedent in the maintenance of the car as well

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The red glass lenses were looking really nice and in contrast to all the plastic rears we see.

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The front HLs were in immaculate condition as well - experts please confirm if it were the Carbide Gas type ?

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The care the car still gets is evedent from the gleaming crimson leather of the interiors

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Apart from a daily dusting, it was confirmed by people in the know at the hotel, that the RR Dealer's team comes around every 3 weeks and Starts the Car, by the crank and it invariably starts almost at half crank.

Any way now we know where one interesting piece of India heritage is.

There is a display plaque beside the car - giving identical info as is there in the Bonhams aution link posted by KPS, with addition about RR Doha having acquired from UK

Best Regards & Drive Safe

Ram

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The 1911 Rolls-Royce 40/50hp Silver Ghost Ceremonial Victoria Chassis no. 1683 Engine no. 91K (ex-chassis 1680) had this umbrella fitted on the rear of the car. Do you think that the umbrella was for the Maharaja when the canvas hood was down?

Anyways this is quite odd considering this is an open car

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Source : http://www.bonhams.com/auctions/19289/lot/221/

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Here is a modern day umbrella car, belonging to the Emir of Kano

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Amongst the many fabulous motorsport photos posted by Melanie Webb on her father Fred's exploits

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...7142026&type=1

Here is His Royal Highness Jaya Chamarajendra Wodeyar of Mysore, with Air Vice Marshal Goyal. The car is probably the Daimler?

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Also did anyone catch the Mark VI visible in the back? I assume it is a Mysore car.
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