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Old 24th January 2012, 19:44   #436
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The car is shaping up really well.I like the second last pic where the door's trying to substitute a mirror. Amazing finish and insane shine or may i say reflection.
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The car is shaping up really well.I like the second last pic where the door's trying to substitute a mirror. Amazing finish and insane shine or may i say reflection.
Sagar, The main reason to spray STANDOX was this.. We wanted an INSANE SHINE once its ready

To actually see the FINAL result, you need to wait for a month. Getting our T-BHPían Nirmal (ULTIMATE DETAILERZ) to work their magic on the car.

Firstly it has to dry up properly, and the unique thing about Dupont is , it changes color as it dries up, you can actually see the transition in the shade difference from the day it was painted, to the SECOND DAY and as on the THIRD DAY. The color dries up to the ORIGINAL shade in a weeks time.

Need to actually start the upholstery and Electrical work from now, but the pace has slowed up a bit, Will speed it up in a few days anyways.

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Pavan-Ji - My humble opinion is that the paint appears to have the "Orange Peel" effect which is a sign of improper mix (too viscous) or too-low a pressure used during spraying so the atomization is insufficient.

With all due respect this is a sub-par paint job. Please request the painter to correct this with correct mix / higher pressure spray.

There are ways to remedy orange peel but it is important to recognize it.
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Pavan-Ji - My humble opinion is that the paint appears to have the "Orange Peel" effect which is a sign of improper mix (too viscous) or too-low a pressure used during spraying so the atomization is insufficient.

With all due respect this is a sub-par paint job. Please request the painter to correct this with correct mix / higher pressure spray.

There are ways to remedy orange peel but it is important to recognize it.
Wow, Thanks for being so BLUNT

Let me explain my scenario.

1) Sir We use HVLP spray gun and the method for painting is indeed Stone-age,

2) The orange peel is a normal finish with the set-up we work with, But after a proper drying up, we sand down the paint with 2000 grit paper and let the detailing guy do the remaining job. The paint finish is always smooth and glossy.

3) I am not running a PROFESSIONAL SET-UP and nor do i charge a fee towards restoration, its all done between friends and myself persues this as a passion.

4) The cost in restoration is kept under a shoe string budget, even lower than that most of the times. So this method is Just fine by the standards under which i am working under.

5) TRUE, you can call it sub-par job, but the end result of any paint job done by my painters are in league or maybe better than any painters in my city when it comes to Vintage and Classic restorations.

But with due respects to your views.. i would take this comment in right spirits, My painter could have done a better job, but under the given conditions my team works under. They are Just Fab.

There is sky and earth difference between Practicality and Theoritical views.

Request you to go through all my restorations and the final finish before you arrive at a conclusion about my team.

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Pavan-ji I alsi know Jeevan Anna personally so this is all in the right spirits. Panels exhibiting the orange peel effect can indeed be corrected. I look forward to seeing the finished product. I have been quietly following your efforts for a long time but decided to point out this paint flaw.

I apologize if this caused any discomfort.

Edit: looks like a simple mistake with the mix because some panels are clean. The curved panels seem to be most affected.

Cheers!

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Pavan-ji I alsi know Jeevan Anna personally so this is all in the right spirits. Panels exhibiting the orange peel effect can indeed be corrected. I look forward to seeing the finished product. I have been quietly following your efforts for a long time but decided to point out this paint flaw.

I apologize if this caused any discomfort.

Edit: looks like a simple mistake with the mix because some panels are clean. The curved panels seem to be most affected.

Cheers!
No hard feelings. Point taken sirjee

There are few places where there is orange feel, but that will be rectified soon.

Just wait for few days, you will see the final finish after the wet-sanding and paint detailing is done by the professionals.

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Small bits are taking too much of time.

hopefully by Monday almost all the painting work should be done and completed

LAST BITS OF WORK TO FINISH THE CAR

1) Engine block painting
2) Fabricate Original Type Air-filter
3) Fabricate Radiator Fan cowl
4) Paint the front grille
5) Paint the wheel Rims
6) Paint the Window panels
7) Paint the dash meter panels
8) Paint the Roof rails
9) Fit the body rubber beadings
10) Fit all the cosmetic fittings
11) Paint the IRVM
12) Locate a suitable Steering Rod (Existing one is from a Maruti-800)
13) Get the steering painted ( Thankfully we have the Original one)
14) Fabricate the Front Windshield
15) Get the final tuning set-up on the engine
16) Check on the brakes again and get the correct setting
17) Upholster the Seats
18) Fabricate the Rear Seat
19) Carpetting
20) Inside Rexine moulding (I plan to do a Cream and Light Brown setting)
22) Get the Roof canvas stitched
23) Door locks and door settings
24) Re-Check all the body bolts

List is loooooooooong..! but the enthusiasm to finish is High

Keep watching this space.

OTOH , looks like the paint has dried up , Painter wants it to dry for another week.
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Small bits are taking too much of time.

hopefully by Monday almost all the painting work should be done and completed

LAST BITS OF WORK TO FINISH THE CAR

1) Engine block painting
2) Fabricate Original Type Air-filter
3) Fabricate Radiator Fan cowl
4) Paint the front grille
5) Paint the wheel Rims
6) Paint the Window panels
7) Paint the dash meter panels
8) Paint the Roof rails
9) Fit the body rubber beadings
10) Fit all the cosmetic fittings
11) Paint the IRVM
12) Locate a suitable Steering Rod (Existing one is from a Maruti-800)
13) Get the steering painted ( Thankfully we have the Original one)
14) Fabricate the Front Windshield
15) Get the final tuning set-up on the engine
16) Check on the brakes again and get the correct setting
17) Upholster the Seats
18) Fabricate the Rear Seat
19) Carpetting
20) Inside Rexine moulding (I plan to do a Cream and Light Brown setting)
22) Get the Roof canvas stitched
23) Door locks and door settings
24) Re-Check all the body bolts

List is loooooooooong..! but the enthusiasm to finish is High

Keep watching this space.

OTOH , looks like the paint has dried up , Painter wants it to dry for another week.

Sir.. the list is long but the way the car is shaping up, we feel the pace going up and and so our heart beats to see the final outcome.. The paint finish is absolutely brilliant..
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+1 to Priyadarshan.

Pavan Anna, the Car indeed is shaping up very well & above all the Paint Finish is AWESOME.

The Car will definitely turn heads, once completed. We are waiting with a bated breath for the car to be completed as soon as possible. Hope this Classic will set a Personal Benchmark for you with respect to the quality of restoration.

Best of Luck

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Some more bits were painted today with BEIGE color.

Next color that comes is CHOCOLATE to add to the contrast, not sure, if that color will gel with the settings, Let me check before doing anything.
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Thanks for sharing the pics of car with that Fiatful reflection Pavan ji. The color's really standing out. The beige looks nice on those bits, will suit the shade, nice touch. BTW any more chrome bling in store for this mouse
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Thanks for sharing the pics of car with that Fiatful reflection Pavan ji. The color's really standing out. The beige looks nice on those bits, will suit the shade, nice touch. BTW any more chrome bling in store for this mouse
So you did notice that pic

Actually, we wet sanded one of the fenders and polished it.

The surface is looking good, the final results are what i am waiting to see.
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Anna super.
No need of mirrors for this beauty.
Still long way to go. Hence waiting eagerly for more updates.
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Anna super.
No need of mirrors for this beauty.
Still long way to go. Hence waiting eagerly for more updates.
Nice joke anna.

Well well... Things turned out a little awkward with my BEIGE experiment

Checked with TOPOLINO CASAGRANDE-Switzerland, Originally the color on these panels were "PERUVIAN BROWN" which in our layman terms turns to become CHOCOLATE BROWN.

Time to re-do it once again. The exact shade is as seen in the pic below.

Though one good news. Got a little lucky with the fabrication of the Air-filter..
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We use HVLP spray gun
Just to learn: What is the compressor motor size? And what pressure do you normally use - if a gauge is used?

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2) The orange peel is a normal finish
How true.

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3) I am not running a PROFESSIONAL SET-UP and nor do i charge a fee towards restoration, its all done between friends and myself persues this as a passion.
To true professional standards of course. Must also add that many so called professionals dont bother about standards.

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4) The cost in restoration is kept under a shoe string budget, even lower than that most of the times. So this method is Just fine by the standards under which i am working under.


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5) the end result of any paint job done by my painters are in league or maybe better than any painters in my city when it comes to Vintage and Classic restorations.
By any standard, actually.

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There is sky and earth difference between Practicality and Theoritical views.
Nothing like hands-on to learn. Wonderful job.
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