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Old 18th September 2016, 15:56   #166
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I want to share here my experience in selecting the Automatic Car for the benefit of the forum members. Hope this information will be useful to others.

I have been extensively going through Team BHP and other forums/ reviews for the past 12 months. Did a test drive of many Auto Transmission cars, talked to existing owners and finally booked the Jazz V CVT. Will be taking delivery this week.

Since I already have a proper sedan in the family which my wife is driving; I have evaluated only Hatchbacks and Compact SUVs. Since the Car is primarily for City usage and will not run more than 800km per month; the requirements are clear - has to be petrol and has to be automatic.

Jazz V CVT
Positives - 100% to space, comfort and airiness of cabin (biege?), Paddle shifers
Negatives - Found a bit sluggish, A/c is just ok. No ESP and No Hill Hold

Polo GT TSi
Postives: Has the power, great gear box and full marks to safety
Negatives: Family outright rejected it due to back seat leg space and low seating

Baleno Zeta CVT
Positives: Has more useful features than Jazz and slightly lower cost
(Pushbutton start, split rear seat, rear head rests)
Negatives: 6 months waiting period (this is a big one). No paddles.
Family found the ride comfort to be lower than Jazz and the cabin not as airy

Ecosport AT
Positives: Best safety features. Good engine and gear box combo.
Found to be a good VFM considering all the other options available
Negatives: Front seats are too narrow to our liking. Family found the back
seat to be too bumpy. And the overall interior space is lower compared to outer dimensions.

Duster AMT: (This is the only diesel I drove)
Positives: Family really liked the back seat and they loved the ride and composure. Has ESP and Hill Hold safety features and the car is really confidence inspiring.
Negatives: I just could not bear the jerky gear shifts. If I buy this car; I will be driving it every single day and just cannot escape the gear shift. I do not want to be repenting for taking a bad decision at a later point. I d onot know why Renault could not offer a proper gear box for such a competent car. I think it is a wasted opportunity

Creta Petrol AT:
Positives: Found to be a good balance of Engine, Gearbox and Space. At this price it should have been ESP and Hill Hold atleast.
Negatives: Wife felt slight motion sickness in the back seat. And I personally felt
it is on the pricier side for what it offers and for my purpose in hand.

Ford Figo AT:
Did not take the test drive. But checked it inside out when we went to TD
the Ecosport. At the price it is offered; it is the most VFM automatic car available.
Has 1.5L engine and Dual clutch gear box and comes with ESP/Hill hold. What else?
But the interiors are a let down. Especially the center console with all those buttons
and the doors are tinny. Has the smallest Boot and there is no bottle/cup holders in the back seat.
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I want to share here my experience in selecting the Automatic Car for the benefit of the forum members. Hope this information will be useful to others.

I have been extensively going through Team BHP and other forums/ reviews for the past 12 months. Did a test drive of many Auto Transmission cars, talked to existing owners and finally booked the Jazz V CVT. Will be taking delivery this week.

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Dear vsatish,

Interesting! Very Interesting indeed!!

I did the same excercise about one year back and am a proud owner of a Jazz V CVT since Oct 2015.
Wise men think alike!

I wonder if you have read my thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...automatic.html (My 2015 Honda Jazz V CVT (Automatic))

I am looking forward to your thread!

Regards,

Girish Mahajan
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Dear vsatish,

Interesting! Very Interesting indeed!!

I did the same excercise about one year back and am a proud owner of a Jazz V CVT since Oct 2015.
Wise men think alike!

I wonder if you have read my thread: http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/test-d...automatic.html (My 2015 Honda Jazz V CVT (Automatic))

I am looking forward to your thread!

Regards,

Girish Mahajan
Sir - Like I mentioned earlier; I am inspired by your Ownership review of Jazz. And it did contribute to my decision making towards Jazz CVT.
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Hi BHPians. Need advice on buying a new car.

First - A brief of my situation. Almost 4yrs back we had bought the Figo TDCi and its now @ 42kkms still going as good as new.

So far Figo serverd its purpose fine, as my wife's office(27kms from home) was on the way to my work place(40kms). I used to drop & pick her up. But since the past year or so, my place of work has moved which is now 15kms & well ahead of my wife's office. My new work place falls right in the highest traffic density & taking the car for 15kms consumes almost more time than my prev location which was 40kms. So started using my Gixxer/Thunderbird daily. First few months I still used to drop her & go to my office which again came to about 40-42kms. But off late due to work commitments I have started to go directly to office in bike & wife takes ola most of the days & wego on some of the days. The Figo is now used only during the weekends & the running has come down from 2-3k kms to a mere 400-500kms per month average.

Though my wife knows to drive the Manual & has got her licence, her driving experice is very less and limited mostly to open highway stretches. More over she is not the LiveToDrive type like most of us here. So even if she starts driving the Manual, I'm still not sure if she would be even more stressed out driving in crawling traffic for 55-60kms every day.

Now we have three options.

First - Stick with Figo & see if she gets accustomed to the MT & can handle the left leg becoming sore - the most economic. This would mean we might not need to change the car for the next couple of years & can upgrade to a car of next segment or even in the Altis segment in 3yrs time, but this comes at a cost of stress for my wife.

Second - Buy a small preowned AT car, say Nano or Alto - but this would tend to make the Figo becoming even less used, as weekends in traffic also would be the AT car. But we cannot sell the Figo as the AT would not be sufficient for the family.

Third - To exchange Figo & get a new AT. This would mean the car should atleast be same or bigger than the Figo's size. This means we should either go for the premium hatches or the Compact sedans. Cars like i20, Baleno, Jazz, Aspire, Zest, Amaze, xCent fall into the list. Also the car would again start running close to 2k kms per month. Most of the petrol ATs in the above list give 10-12kmpl in day to day driving which make a Diesel AT more practical. The problem here is only 2 cars have Diesel ATs in the segment we look at. The Dzire & Zest. The next is Verna which is a bit too much of stretch financially & size wise too. In this case the Dzire is striked out First as both of us are not inclined towards the Swift/Dzire design & the Dzire falls short of our Figo's interior space and has similar sized boot. So Zest becomes the only option if we want to stick to our planned Financial commitment.

Option 3a would be to sell the Figo & go for a preowned diesel AT from a higher segment like Verna or Cruze etc(Here the stretch would only be the size). But my wife is Ok for a preowned car only if its a second car. She says if we have only one car, its better to be new.

Looking for you help.

Suggestions towards all options welcome & out of the box options are accepted as well.
Would like to hear from those who have been in a similar situation & what they opted for.

Thanks in advance.
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The problem here is only 2 cars have Diesel ATs in the segment we look at. The Dzire & Zest. The next is Verna which is a bit too much of stretch financially & size wise too. In this case the Dzire is striked out First as both of us are not inclined towards the Swift/Dzire design & the Dzire falls short of our Figo's interior space and has similar sized boot. So Zest becomes the only option if we want to stick to our planned Financial commitment.
Financially, retaining the Figo and getting used to it makes most sense. But practically, considering the long commutes, increasing traffic and the fact that your wife is not fully comfortable, the selling and going for an AT option makes sense.

You missed one diesel AT. The new Volkswagen Ameo DSG (Not there in the list in this thread-Needs to be updated). A powerful 110 PS Diesel, by far the best Automatic Gearbox. good FE and a long list of features at maybe around 10.5-11L OTR for the highline and I think around 10L for the Comfortline. Would be an ideal choice for you. A little above budget but defnitely worth it.

On the down side, the looks are subjective and the interior and boot space are below par for the segment. Need to see if those are deal breakers.
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Financially, retaining the Figo and getting used to it makes most sense. But practically, considering the long commutes, increasing traffic and the fact that your wife is not fully comfortable, the selling and going for an AT option makes sense.

You missed one diesel AT. The new Volkswagen Ameo DSG (Not there in the list in this thread-Needs to be updated). A powerful 110 PS Diesel, by far the best Automatic Gearbox. good FE and a long list of features at maybe around 10.5-11L OTR for the highline and I think around 10L for the Comfortline. Would be an ideal choice for you. A little above budget but defnitely worth it.

On the down side, the looks are subjective and the interior and boot space are below par for the segment. Need to see if those are deal breakers.
Good Suggestion Rajeev. Yes the Ameo seems to be a good option, but was little worried with the service & spares cost of these Germans. These Skoda/VW cars seems to cost almost double that of the brands like Maruti,Ford,Tata & Hyundai in service & spares costs. As the car is going to be used more by my wife, I want its service to be trouble free and economic.
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Ertiga: (didn't drive)
+ Another Maruti-Suzuki product
- Prefer a more compact vehicle
- Newly launched -- solitary ownership experience (with all thanks to niranjanprabhu's summary)
This thread is a little old, but I wanted to add another safety related negative against the Ertiga. The rear seats are just too close to the rear hatch door; the heads of seated rear passengers look dangerously close to the rear windshield. Very little buffer in case of a rear collision.
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