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there are illegal activities everywhere ,at every corner , not just in villages , but yes I have experienced what you said but its very RARE We need to understand that 'we' are essentially are the guests in their backyard not 'them '. 'We' enter their premises , so firstly its essentially 'us' to behave & learn & respect the local ways of life . So please do not paint everyone in the same colour . If the offroader community wants its activity to be continued we need to have some better understanding of the locals , otherwise we will see a hostile response everywhere & we will be taking refuge in closed stadiums ( Like motocross ) for our stunts Sudarshan | |
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I'm part of the gurgaon cyclists that you are alluding to, the Pedalyatris. We've got certain trails where very few cars venture (some where they cant ![]() Most folks (like whatever little i've seen of from arka/NIOC etc) are sensible/composed but some people can be really brutal on the trail. When we as cyclists (occasional visitors) can have our blood boil at the way some of them ride roughshod over the terrain, I fully sympathize with villagers getting pissed. I mean, the villagers don't come with their 4x4 tractors and do donuts in our parks, do they? but we do the exact opposite. /will now don fireproof suit n hide //meant more about the testosterone driven junkies than sensible offroaders like arka etc (whom i've been out once with) //+10000 to Sudarshan | |
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BANNED | ![]() Update ; Are 'WE' Next ? ( based on a news in a local daily ) This is what happens when things go out of hand ( when people exceed limits ) & grab 'UNWANTED ATTENTION ' In the light of the recent incidents in Pune District ( Maharashtra ) particularly the Rave parties going on in the Rural remote corners , the district Police have imposed serious restrictions ( on Parties offcourse ) Permission of district police --MANDATORY , even if the party goes on a private land/ farm house ( even private organised outings are feared to be falling under this ) a) list of participants & mo. numbers b) Video taping of the party c) permission from the concerned dept if 'Drinks' are being served d) responsibility of the organisers towards unlawful activity This means that the Authorities are IN & as usual there will be procedures for permissions & there will be ' Some more procedure ' for speedy disposal of your request This also means that ( by practical experience & Applications ) that the 'Rich & Famous ' & the ' rock bottom' ( local xx people ) are excluded as both classes have regular 'Interaction ' with the administration There is a saying in Marathi--- the cure will kill the patient not the disease -- this is going to be true So boys have fun , do some doughnuts ( excuse for spelling ) , enter reservoirs ,drive through fields ,have some FUN with some energy liquids , do some wild rain dance , do whatever because it will be for a while --- we ARE next Gone are the days of going on an outing with few close friends & unwinding oneself - because I wont be getting a Permission ( not that I wont get 'IT" but I refuse to use the clout or payup ) Just for reference :-- for the members who can read Marathi this is an original script from a No. 1 daily of Pune , to have some better understanding ![]() ![]() Sudarshan Last edited by Sudarshan : 10th July 2011 at 10:19. |
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| ![]() I think America faced similar challenges when Rock'n'Roll and "youth culture" started flowering in the 50s. ![]() Wonder how the story will unfold in India. --Ragul |
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| ![]() @ Sudarshan This is exactly what I fear and tried to explain in my earlier post. If the sport is not self-regulated and carried out as a free for all (read irresponsible and insensitive) activity, it destroys the good name of the sport. Sooner or later this invites retribution and restrictions (mostly unreasonable and cumbersome) from authorities. The worst part of these regulations is that they become tools of harassment (and corruption), directed against the well behaved and normal enthusiast, while the rogue elements continue with their mischievous ways unabated and still go substantially scot-free. |
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BANNED | ![]() All the Worst fears have come true , but in effect, in the reverse order ---team events killing individual OTRs ??? Dear all , this is the recent development some where in western Maharashtra The news that came in Local Papers ( In Local Language Marathi ) in short An Event was disrupted due to forest dept action , for entering in to restricted forest Lands This event was going on , some where near Mumbai , According to the news this was in an area declared as Eco Sensitive Zone by the Supreme court orders , where one can not enter even on foot , This is since Last 10 years --- the news says Claims of Damage 1) Trees damaged , saplings damaged / destroyed 2) Nallas, streams changed their natural Path 3) New vehicle tracks on Grass Lands --forest lands 4) Threat to environment ![]() ![]() ![]() for me this is a question of the survival of the offroading sport & community all together --- what is next , I mean the music to face when we go OTR every time Sudarshan |
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Clarification these are from the renowned news media , I have only put it here for the record & to substantiate my words . Just for reference I have also Put this here , so that no one could say I am lying I feel if we want to maintain our dignity , Quality & community such things need not be hushed up -- but thought upon seriously , Names are not Important , what happened & what can IS Sudarshan P.S. Please refer to my earlier post # 49 --- I think I was crying foul -- 50 odd innocent people got collared for nothing Last edited by Sudarshan : 17th July 2012 at 08:47. | |
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BANNED | ![]() Ok here it is 1) Wealthy & mighty people with vehicles , play Havoc in restricted forest Lands 2) 100 acers Forest Land used for Racing ( ?? ) 3) In the XX protected forest wealthy & mighty play Havoc vehicles in race 57 in custody sub title : youth got hit by one such Jeep on public road . such a pain even reading this ![]() Sudarshan |
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Whatever has lead to this, has very long term ramifications for the off roading community in India as a whole. We can now load our Jeeps with winches, super engine+GB combo's, monster MT tyres and happily drive around in the cities. In the future there will be a lot of apprehensions from the organizers as well as the participants angle. Organizers: Who from our own community will scuttle and screw up the event, should we hold one? Participants: Will we be made to turn back home at the first obstacle or midway, after driving 100-1000 kms? This has happened in Wayanad, Hyderabad and now here. Next where? Verdict: Winners: NONE Losers: ENTIRE OFF ROADING COMMUNITY Suggestions to keep the sport alive, anybody? Regards, Last edited by fazalaliadil : 17th July 2012 at 09:12. | |
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Thanks for sharing this here. As the script is ~ Hindi, I can read and understand. Some portions, the scan is not clear though. Quote:
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![]() From Mohan's comment (and also from the comments I read somewhere on FB), I understand that the organizing committee were warned by several people, but I think they did not pay attention to it. Why so? Is this some ritual which is mandatory during every monsoon? Sudarshan ji, any idea about the participants? I hope all of them are safe back home- especially those from Bangalore, Hyderabad. Have some good friends there who traveled all the way for participation. Spike Last edited by Rehaan : 17th July 2012 at 18:00. Reason: Post edited. Thread move is still under discussion. | |||||
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57 vehicles impounded!!! ![]() Wayanad event went fine. But similar trouble happened in Puttur (Chespa ForceZ event) and Beltangady event. | ||
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