[Twinn]

I was just waiting for the fever of TPC-11 to die down, so that we could have some breather space for the Bhpians to look at the fantastic day we pune off roaders had on our Independence Day.

So to kick start, I mean jump start!!! With few talks over FB and over phone, I got connected to Vishal. Vishal confirmed that the plan is on for 15th. So on time we all met up at the Kadakwasala dam Chowpatty at exactly 6:45 am. The early birds are sequenced below:-

1) Land rover - Sudershan, Vishal Gurav, Ganjan and another Calm Gentleman (Sorry I forgot the name)
2) SWB - EXO 1 Vishal Chavan
3) 413 W - Me!!!
Rest jeepers made us wait till 7:30 before showing up, others included
4) Classic - Mateen
5) 410 W - Majid
6) SWB Low bonnet - Munshi
7) MM540 - Ritesh and Nilesh

So finally we set off towards an unknown path, so instead of calling it an offroading event we shall term it an exploration or recce as the team leader Mr Sudarshan termed it as!!!

We had a quick breakfast, and then moved on along the path. We made a quick stop on one of the pastured banks of the river, tried few small obstacles. The classic got struck in a gorge, had to towed by two mean machines, firstly ritesh tried towing the classic out, then Vishal has to assist him, since the 540 was also not getting enough traction to pull the 340 out.

Small hiccups: - We really had a tough time for few moments when my baby would just stall in the middle of the road. Wherein my ignition fuse was sort of loose, thankfully there was a gypsy mech within the gang. Once after that, few electrical glitches in Vishals SWB cropped up, the wires actually got burnt. The master (sudershanji) had a magical finger wherein that was fixed within moments. After that we had no stopping for any mechanical reasons!!!

We got split into two; one was headed by Vishal, where all the machines and their drivers followed. The other, Sudershan and his co - passengers moved on to another pasture.

We moved on the trail was amazing and challenging. I hope the pics do justice, for the fun we had. I thank Vishal G & Vishal C for the pics .

[Twinn]

Few videos from my end!! I mean Vishal G's end

Off Roaders - YouTube

MVI_3078.AVI - YouTube

Land Rover rocks - YouTube

Land Rover Rocks - YouTube

[Sudarshan]

Well its ok now if people are satisfied , but there are few things I need to open-up & Talk straight . Concerned people please don't get hurt .

What went wrong & could have been avoided

& the lessons I have learnt ( in Block )

1) departure time was not followed , we became late by 45 minutes , So initial briefing could not be done properly we lost precious time that we could have spent on some more explorations & that means you people didn't get anything more for what you came for .

Next time the departure time will be followed strictly , ( this will be after 20 minutes from assembly/ meeting time )

2) few People ( I guess Ritesh started this ) stopped before the predetermined 1st stop & started doing their own activity , this was a dangerous as Me & Vishal were totally unaware of this initially . The group was split then & there As the lead car ( Me ) went ahead as planned & lost contact with others . this should not happen again .

3) On that particular trail , people started doing Doughnuts , this IS wrong -- there could be trouble with locals if you do it on the WRONG patch of grass

Remedy :
1) we need to cap the No. of vehicles to Max 5

2) No one will stop before the planned destination is reached

3) what ever we do we will do it collectively - no single person shall start doing ' obstacles ' on his own . This Is dangerous . If anyone does things like this & gets stuck then he will recover himself .

4) Every vehicle needs minimum recovery gear & tools . Next time this will be checked before we take-off , defaulters wont be allowed to continue ( they will be joining as passengers )

5) We need to fix a group lead & this person will take the responsibility of planning & executing everything . People will listen to instructions

6) strictly NO doughnuts & no entering in to reservoirs next time .

Off roading is a serious business , this can become very dangerous too , for the sake of safety, the group needs to be tightly wound , decisions taken need to be followed .

I am planning some more explorations on new & fresh routes. Those who want to join me, need to follow certain rules .

If anyone doesn't like my style ( described above ) Is very-much free to find his own trail & explore on his own


Because of this Unruly nature of the group ,I decided to keep quiet about some more info I had about this area & you people missed some more fun .

Sudarshan

[Thar4x4]

Originally Posted by Twinn

Few videos from my end!! I mean Vishal G's end

First you used my video on your FB page and now on BHP, I think I have to charge you for this now.

what you think ?


Thanks,
Vishal

[Twinn]

Originally Posted by Thar4x4

First you used my video on your FB page and now on BHP, I think I have to charge you for this now. what you think ?

Sirji sorry for the unruly behavior on the forum . what is the remedy, I mean charges !!!

[Thar4x4]

Originally Posted by Twinn

Sirji sorry for the unruly behavior on the forum . what is the remedy, I mean charges !!!

A Gypsy ride on next OTR, agree?

Thanks,
Vishal.

[Twinn]

Originally Posted by Thar4x4

A Gypsy ride on next OTR, agree?

Yes sir . I would be glad to have you in my pillion. BTW when is the next OTR

[Sudarshan]

Originally Posted by Twinn

Sirji sorry for the unruly behavior on the forum . what is the remedy, I mean charges !!!

Twinns -- you naughty boy , I can read between lines ---

But I know you , so I dont feel bad about it

Anyways check this link if you have missed it -- some food for thought

Here http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-of...e-conduct.html

tell me about this ...

I will comment more & quote some instances I know , caused by unruly behaviour , but first I would like to hear from you about this link .


Sudarshan.

[Twinn]

Originally Posted by Sudarshan

I will comment more & quote some instances I know , caused by unruly behaviour , but first I would like to hear from you about this link

Sudarshan ji... Phew!!!Brup!!! its the 3rd time I am actually reading it. Its a great write up... BTW I did not mean to mock you in my earlier post, pardon my ignorance Just a l'l fun on the serious note, thats it !!!

[Sudarshan]

Originally Posted by Twinn

-- BTW I did not mean to mock you in my earlier post, pardon my ignorance Just a l'l fun on the serious note, thats it !!!

Dont worry --No Problem All taken in good spirit --- Even I cant remain serious all the time---

Originally Posted by Sudarshan

I will comment more & quote some instances I know , caused by unruly behaviour , but first I would like to hear from you about this link .

Here it is

1) A vehicle toppled in an event ( down south ) ( but not Arka's )this year , as a result of communication problem with the Marshals/ spotters & driver--- Some say it was the driver who didnt listen

2) Last year A Jeep with a newbie banged on other vehicle while descending a steep slippery slope . Again problems in communication with group lead & driver , but fortunately no harm to any person though vehicle got damaged

3) Vehicles enter in a small dam ( April this year ), A guy comes running & objects . Says its their drinking water , No Quarrel though --situation managed by an elderly guy .

4) few weeks back ( in Pune ), some argument between locals & Jeepers --- the Issue was 'Grass '

5) The tungarli Incidence we all know -- there is a thread on this . People enter into water -- one Jeeps head cracked & other just Saved short of it . 7 out of 10 vehicle break down

Some kind of order & decipline is required for the safety of individual driver as well as the group ,

Unruly behaviour is the first step towards the disaster in waiting -- no one can tell how much hurt you get , you may get lucky with minor scratches or loose a limb or even life .
Can you imagine a person trapped under the 1200 kgs of his own jeeps weight ?? in an area from where the nearest hospital is minimum 50 kms ? please think & decide . Life is precious & so are our vehicles

Sudarshan

[Sudarshan]

When I finally broke from the crowd , I travelled miles ahead & found this -- The pics are just 1/10 th of what we experienced , though our Journey halted abruptly before we could reach the final destination , this was worth spending even few days !!

Cant imagine this peace been destroyed by unruly ,uncivilised elements











Lessons learned
1)I wont be showing places like this to people who dont understand a thing ,about the whole meaning of off roading ... not worth taking efforts for them .
2) not to disclose locations to people who are not sensitive towards nature & all
3) Not to disclose complete information about the route so it will be easy to call of the whole show at any point of time if group behaviour found unsuitable
4) not to take unknown people along .

this may sound bit harsh , yes it is but there is no other way to avoid unwanted situations

Sudarshan