First off-roading with my Gypsy......some BORing stuff.

Alfa_Kilo · 4th February 2008, 09:40

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Originally Posted by headers

Agreed..but you could surely do 60 degrees..if it is not too long..say just around 10 m 60deg inclines are possible..have seen it personally..

Next time you are this side of town..and we are on an offroad expedetion..we'll demonstrate..cheers

Show me a Gypsy do 45 deg first...

sudev · 4th February 2008, 12:10

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Originally Posted by Alfa_Kilo

Many off-road vehicles are capable of overcoming 100% slopes, provided they do not break traction. Search Youtube for 'tatra truck trials' and you will see.
Most Unimogs, Pinzgauers, some Tatras can scale 100% slopes at max GVW. Infact most military tracked vehicles are limited around 60-70% slopes because of their weight.

Boss 100% slope is only climbable by ropes not even tracked vehicles can do this. Center of gravity and laws of physics would not allow. A hump of few meters is not same as continuous slope.

Alfa_Kilo · 4th February 2008, 13:36

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Originally Posted by sudev

Boss 100% slope is only climbable by ropes not even tracked vehicles can do this. Center of gravity and laws of physics would not allow. A hump of few meters is not same as continuous slope.

100% slope = 45deg
90deg = infinity slope.

X% slope means (vertical displacement/horizontal displacement)x100. So 45 deg, i.e. a 1 is to 1 slope makes 100% gradient.

headers · 4th February 2008, 14:36

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Originally Posted by Alfa_Kilo

Show me a Gypsy do 45 deg first...

Guess..you did not understand..I invite your highness to my town wherein I will demonstate how Gypsy does the climb..and how to descend too..

headers · 4th February 2008, 14:38

@ alfa kilo : pls re read post #30

sudev · 4th February 2008, 15:01

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Originally Posted by Alfa_Kilo

100% slope = 45deg
90deg = infinity slope.

X% slope means (vertical displacement/horizontal displacement)x100. So 45 deg, i.e. a 1 is to 1 slope makes 100% gradient.

Okay I stand corrected. 100% slope = 45 degree.

Blue Thunder · 4th February 2008, 22:33

Alfa_Kilo, please check out the below videos, showing a Jimny going up a 45 deg slope.
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YouTube - jimny xrisoupoli

YouTube - Jimny

cheers:

headers · 5th February 2008, 19:08

nice video..good find BT..

Samurai · 7th February 2008, 20:10

Isn't this well above 45 degrees?

YouTube - NISSAN NAVARA-GRAND VITARA

Blue Thunder · 7th February 2008, 21:59

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Isn't this well above 45 degrees?

YouTube - NISSAN NAVARA-GRAND VITARA

Wow

, good find , Samurai !!!

that is like 50-60 degress inclination for sure, and the GV starts at an angle and still makes it without hassles, amazing

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nitrous · 7th February 2008, 23:32

I've watched mahindra CJ3Bs do a similar incline.

Alfa_Kilo · 8th February 2008, 19:19

impressive stuff. The GV and Navara seem to have deceptively good ramp break over angles.

@headers.
That was a 1.5l CRDI Jimmy. Will a 1.3l petrol LWB make it? I doubt it becaue I some experience in a carb MG410W, and that thing used to stall much before 45'

headers · 9th February 2008, 10:42

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Originally Posted by Alfa_Kilo

impressive stuff. The GV and Navara seem to have deceptively good ramp break over angles.

@headers.
That was a 1.5l CRDI Jimmy. Will a 1.3l petrol LWB make it? I doubt it becaue I some experience in a carb MG410W, and that thing used to stall much before 45'

The 1.3l LWB .yes..it will do it.. but you need to maintain the momentum..

Alfa_Kilo · 9th February 2008, 10:58

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Originally Posted by headers

The 1.3l LWB .yes..it will do it.. but you need to maintain the momentum..

Good...I always felt that Gypsies lacked low down torque, compared to DI Mahindras.
I am planning to aquire an ex-army MM550XD later this year. I hope I can join for some off-road meet then.

headers · 10th February 2008, 21:07

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Originally Posted by Alfa_Kilo

Good...I always felt that Gypsies lacked low down torque, compared to DI Mahindras.
I am planning to aquire an ex-army MM550XD later this year. I hope I can join for some off-road meet then.

Yes the gypsies lack the low end torque compared to the DI mahindras..but are much lighter than them and hence perform superior in some situations..

The gypsies are basically extremely reliable when compared to the mahindras and are pretty decent offroad machines..The mahindras are extremely rugged and dependable too but one needs to spend a llot of time and effort to get them in that shape..

ex670c aka arka has one of the better jeeps which is great too..but the gypsies rule when it comes to sandy terrain..and SPEED!!!

welcome to offroad anytime..buddy!

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headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	nice video..good find BT..
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Alfa_Kilo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jaipur Posts: 328 Thanked: 13 Times	impressive stuff. The GV and Navara seem to have deceptively good ramp break over angles. @headers. That was a 1.5l CRDI Jimmy. Will a 1.3l petrol LWB make it? I doubt it becaue I some experience in a carb MG410W, and that thing used to stall much before 45'
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