Birthday off-roading bash on Grand Vitara goes sour...

vikid · 10th May 2008, 00:01

if you know someone in dubai you could get it for Rs4k..

anupmathur · 10th May 2008, 08:19

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Originally Posted by vikid

if you know someone in dubai you could get it for Rs4k..

Vikid, with your extensive experience on sand and dunes, could you give some idea about how much of a base area is required to prevent this high lift jack from sinking into the sand?
Do you carry a wooden board along with the jack?

mps_delhi · 28th May 2008, 16:57

I use a smaller version of jack used by tyre mechanics. It is chinese and costs around Rs. 1000/-. In Delhi, you can buy it e.g. in Kashmere Gate. No need for me to send a picture since it is just a miniature version of the familiar stuff. It weighs less than 10 Kg and comes in a box with handle. It lifts Accent in a jiffy (total tyre change time is around 13-15 minutes, starting from pull over) and claims to be good for a truck!

My best!

garrett_t16 · 17th December 2009, 17:23

i too have a grand vitara 2.0 MT , in the video i can only see the rear wheels spinning ?? why is that . it is a permanent 4x4 . did you try putting it in low range ??

Samurai · 17th December 2009, 18:08

Yes, it was in 4L. But why shouldn't the rear wheel spin? After all it has open diff in rear and front. Any wheel can spin away at lack of traction.

garrett_t16 · 18th December 2009, 16:13

i had once been to lonavala so i decided to do some off roading in an open plot (it was monsoon) , i managed to get my car stuck in the mud .. all i did was put it in 4L(lock diff) and it was all a piece of cake ! did u try that ? because in lock diff mode all wheels move at the same time, one wheel can not spin away ..

sreerajunnithan · 18th December 2009, 18:14

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Originally Posted by garrett_t16

i had once been to lonavala so i decided to do some off roading in an open plot (it was monsoon) , i managed to get my car stuck in the mud .. all i did was put it in 4L(lock diff) and it was all a piece of cake ! did u try that ? because in lock diff mode all wheels move at the same time, one wheel can not spin away ..

he he he... Samurai has a cj430 Jeep only for off roading. As per him, his CJ 340 can go any where his GV goes, but GV can't even follow the trail where he goes in his Jeep. And he knows a lot off off-roading tips and tricks.

Thanks
--Sree--

tsk1979 · 18th December 2009, 18:33

4L locks only the center diff. Individual front and back wheels can still spin.
So with 4L diff lock mode in GV, you may have a situation where front left and rear right(or vice a versa) are spinning freely

Samurai · 18th December 2009, 19:24

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Originally Posted by garrett_t16

all i did was put it in 4L(lock diff) and it was all a piece of cake ! did u try that ? because in lock diff mode all wheels move at the same time, one wheel can not spin away ..

Sorry, that is not true. The diff lock in GV applies only to the center diff. The front and rear diffs are always open. In other words, if one tyre in each axle loses traction and starts spinning, you are stuck.

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

And he knows a lot off off-roading tips and tricks.

Hey, what is this? You are fattening me up for a slaughter? You do lot more events than me these days.

sudev · 19th December 2009, 05:25

+1 to last from Samurai. Recently experienced this in remote Rajasthan dune country. One wheel front front and back were in air and the car was immobile in all ranges. Needed few hands of manpower to push it to a situation where one axel was firmly sitting on ground and it pulled away on its own thereafter.

garrett_t16 · 19th December 2009, 12:45

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Originally Posted by tsk1979

4L locks only the center diff. Individual front and back wheels can still spin.
So with 4L diff lock mode in GV, you may have a situation where front left and rear right(or vice a versa) are spinning freely

oh did not know that .. thanks ..so you mean that if i am in normal 4H mode (without the lock diff) then even if one wheel goes up .you are stuck ??

tsk1979 · 19th December 2009, 20:25

Yes, with no lock mode, even if one wheel loses traction completely, all the torque goes to that wheel.

10th May 2008, 00:01	#91
vikid BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: UAE Posts: 149 Thanked: 3 Times	if you know someone in dubai you could get it for Rs4k..
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28th May 2008, 16:57	#93
mps_delhi Newbie Join Date: May 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 11 Thanked: 3 Times	Simpler option for Jack I use a smaller version of jack used by tyre mechanics. It is chinese and costs around Rs. 1000/-. In Delhi, you can buy it e.g. in Kashmere Gate. No need for me to send a picture since it is just a miniature version of the familiar stuff. It weighs less than 10 Kg and comes in a box with handle. It lifts Accent in a jiffy (total tyre change time is around 13-15 minutes, starting from pull over) and claims to be good for a truck! My best!
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17th December 2009, 17:23	#94
garrett_t16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 193 Thanked: 101 Times	i too have a grand vitara 2.0 MT , in the video i can only see the rear wheels spinning ?? why is that . it is a permanent 4x4 . did you try putting it in low range ??
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17th December 2009, 18:08	#95
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,521 Times View My Garage	Yes, it was in 4L. But why shouldn't the rear wheel spin? After all it has open diff in rear and front. Any wheel can spin away at lack of traction.
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18th December 2009, 16:13	#96
garrett_t16 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: mumbai Posts: 193 Thanked: 101 Times	i had once been to lonavala so i decided to do some off roading in an open plot (it was monsoon) , i managed to get my car stuck in the mud .. all i did was put it in 4L(lock diff) and it was all a piece of cake ! did u try that ? because in lock diff mode all wheels move at the same time, one wheel can not spin away ..
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18th December 2009, 18:33	#98
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	4L locks only the center diff. Individual front and back wheels can still spin. So with 4L diff lock mode in GV, you may have a situation where front left and rear right(or vice a versa) are spinning freely
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19th December 2009, 05:25	#100
sudev Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 3,838 Thanked: 3,179 Times	+1 to last from Samurai. Recently experienced this in remote Rajasthan dune country. One wheel front front and back were in air and the car was immobile in all ranges. Needed few hands of manpower to push it to a situation where one axel was firmly sitting on ground and it pulled away on its own thereafter.
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19th December 2009, 20:25	#102
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	Yes, with no lock mode, even if one wheel loses traction completely, all the torque goes to that wheel.
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