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Old 8th September 2008, 20:34   #166
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yes you have to make some changes to the suspension. we had to lift the car and bend the leaf springs to fit the tyers.

@GTO, another gypsy was towing that car with the winch.
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is it possible we can reverse the leaf springs? i mean invert them upside down?

will they still work?
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is it possible we can reverse the leaf springs? i mean invert them upside down?

will they still work?
.. WHAT...??? Never heard of this one before. You serious or joking.?
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Old 9th September 2008, 10:33   #169
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Costing of maxxis tyres and sizes available

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They are the Maxxis Mudzilla -- probably the 31x10.5 size

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Maxxis tyres look impressive, they look neat even after such a mud bath. I can see these tyres to have the good self clean properties just like NDMS.

By the way any idea how much does it cost? Are they available in 16 inch version?

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Old 9th September 2008, 19:45   #170
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is it possible we can reverse the leaf springs? i mean invert them upside down?
will they still work?
When you ask a question like this it would be best to also say what you are trying to do. Then your question may be answered in the context in which it was asked. Just a suggestion.
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Old 10th September 2008, 00:10   #171
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im trying to find where i read the inverting of leaf springs. it was about a lot of weight was to be carried and then it was decided to invert the leaf springs to make it compatible to take the weight/load.

i guess many of the dumper trucks have the inverted leaf springs (Kamani is the indian word).

i will try to search the damn thing and try to post some photos of the same!

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im trying to find where i read the inverting of leaf springs. it was about a lot of weight was to be carried and then it was decided to invert the leaf springs to make it compatible to take the weight/load......
Conceptually, the inverted leaf springs will have the capability to carry more load (remember old brick/mortar bridges are similar to inverted leaf springs in some sense).
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Now in practical terms, how this can be setup..???
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Conceptually, the inverted leaf springs will have the capability to carry more load (remember old brick/mortar bridges are similar to inverted leaf springs in some sense)
Arch bridges are similar in concept to regular leaf springs, remember, the load on the bridge middle area is earthwards and on the same area on a leafspring, the load is skywards.
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Most just add more leafs and maybe heavier shockers. The trade off for heavier suspension is really harsh ride like a brick wagon, unless you throw a LOT of money at it.
What are you trying to do?
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Old 17th September 2008, 16:30   #175
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is it possible we can reverse the leaf springs? i mean invert them upside down?

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Yes, it is possible to have inverted leaf springs : this is usually done to handle heavier loads. This design is used in the heavier multi-axle trucks and in railway coaches as well. The ends of the leaf springs are mounted on two (tandem) axles and the body of the vehicle rests on the middle of the inverted leaf springs.

But, this is a topic good enough for a separate thread in the " Technical stuff " section .

Please see below links for more info :

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Sorry for the OT post.

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the heavy load trucks with 2/3 rear axles have inverted leaf springs. i will take some photos and post them over the weekend.

i havent seen any inverted in light vehicles.
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yes you have to make some changes to the suspension. we had to lift the car and bend the leaf springs to fit the tyers.

@GTO, another gypsy was towing that car with the winch.

the Gypsy on the stairs,,,is that Maxxis also??..this one looks huge..
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one more..

YouTube - prado had hard time there..

stay tuned few more to come..
hey i am new on team bhp and was wondering when u people goin off roading around pune and bombay
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What to do when tyres are coated in slush and lose traction

Guys,
I had this small question, say you are tackling a slippery slope in a 2WD bolero, and the rear tyres which the engine powers is covered in slush like this

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But it was not this deep in slush, but the gap in the tyre tread was all filled up, and it was like a smooth surface.

And every time you touch the accelerator, the wheels just spun, on and on. Rocks under the tyre really didn’t help, the tyres got hot with the all friction.

Tyres are Bridgestone Dueler H/T 215/75/R15, just 6000kms old.

At the end we had to accept defeat and reverse down the trail. Any pointers on how to tackle such situations..
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Guys,
I had this small question, ....

And every time you touch the accelerator, the wheels just spun, on and on. Rocks under the tyre really didn’t help, the tyres got hot with the all friction.

Tyres are Bridgestone Dueler H/T 215/75/R15, just 6000kms old.

At the end we had to accept defeat and reverse down the trail. Any pointers on how to tackle such situations..
  1. That's expecting tooo much from H/T tyres. No way they will work. Even A/T tyres could have issues in above situation. With H/T tyres, you stand NO chance in slush.
  2. Only option is to use NDMS or M/T tyres. That's it. Nothing else.
  3. Even after all this, you can get stuck in mud. Accept that mother nature is far more stronger than our jeeps/NDMS/M-T tyres.
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