Offroading in God’s Own Country: The Munnar MGE & JT Event

Samurai · 12th February 2009, 11:43

That's what happens when people unfamiliar with offroading do the reporting on TV or newspaper.

We didn't have a single vehicle there which had diff locks, how that heck did that guy lock the differential.

His words can't be applied even to the Jeep Thrills event that took place next day, eventhough it was 10 times or more tougher than MGE terrain.

pypkmsrikanth · 12th February 2009, 12:00

At the cost of slating some of my fraternity, one has to take it with a pinch of salt, we also have to earn our butter isnt it.

Spitfire · 12th February 2009, 12:14

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Originally Posted by pypkmsrikanth

we also have to earn our butter isnt it.

I found Vikram Gour

headers · 12th February 2009, 13:40

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Originally Posted by dwaraka

The design of Fiat Hummer Concept Oltre is very similar or probably same as IVECO.
Dwarak

Fiat has a stake in IVECO IIRC..

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

I don't know if I should laugh, or feel sad or pity that guy or search for him and send an evening with him...

You mean SPEND an evening with him!!

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Originally Posted by Samurai

The CJ340 steering was in 4 O' clock position while straight when we started, and finished in 6 O' clock while straight by the end of the day.

Is this what you meant Sharat?

Well, please get your suspension, kingpin and steering box checked. That should not happen in well kept Jeeps.

I'd like Mr. Dhabar Behram's view on the above if possible.

Red Liner · 12th February 2009, 13:52

It should definitely not happen...steering issues to be checked. I have been having these issues for ages now, and its very annoying.

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 12th February 2009, 13:55

Thanks Vikram - Technical explanation - the cumulative tolerance band on all steering related parts has deviated from it's centre line. Understandable explanation - part positions have shifted relative to each other, the most common being that the steering box has become loose on the chassis. Design of experiments can be conducted as follows - if after realigning and retightening the steering gear box if things get back to normal, then replace fasteners to retain torque, if things do not get back to normal, look for increased steering gearbox free play and slackness in the steering connecting rod, adjust as required. Look for outer steering column cracked at the bottom end. In worst case which happens mainly in accidented and abused vehicles, chassis crab can also set in (vehicle loloking like a parallelogram instead of a rectangle as seen from the top).

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

Alfa_Kilo · 12th February 2009, 14:16

It is probably a bent tie rod. The Mahindra tie rods cannot take the load zero (or negative) offset aftermarket wheels exert on them and bend easily. I bent the tie rod on my 540 with 235/75R15 tyres on 15x7 wheels twice. I am reinforcing the tire rods on my new jeep...or are all jeeps to be called jugaars now?

If the tie rod is bent, you will have to reset the toe and recenter the steering, until it is bent again...

Sha · 12th February 2009, 14:34

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

This has to be the biggest joke of the century. In fact I was thinking of putting it in the 'official joke thread'.

Some guy has posted a report on the munnar MGE here:

Buy New Cars, Used Cars, Auto News and Reviews India - Zigwheels.com

Excerpts:

Hey guys, all those who went to Munnar, did we do the right one or was there something else there ????

Oh man. I don't know if I should laugh, or feel sad or pity that guy or search for him and send an evening with him...

Today morning i read in the newspaper I started to laugh.
Good joke by Vikram Gour.
next time we will invite him to OTR. I am attaching the article.
IMG_0001.pdf
Source:Zigwheels.com

Samurai · 12th February 2009, 15:05

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

I found Vikram Gour

What do you mean? I guess this is the guy: Blogger: User Profile: Vikram Gour

His creativity and writing style can't be faulted. The only risk I see is that some uninitiated readers may actually sign up for the next one with lots of expectations.

When you think about it, the Coorg MGE was not that bad. If 2WD vehicles were not involved, it would have been a pretty good event.

vinod_nookala · 12th February 2009, 16:35

I think he is the guy who tested mahindra Axe for Car magazine if iam not wrong!

Samurai · 13th February 2009, 08:23

Thanks to Shakir, now I have two more short videos of my Jeep.

YouTube - CJ340 climbing the first hill on Munnar-Kodai trail

YouTube - Driving the open CJ340 towards the Munnar-Kodai trail

RSimonS · 15th February 2009, 16:26

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Originally Posted by Samurai

I look down and I see that one of our marshals has installed an air intake on himself. I don't recall his name, somebody remind me please.

Well, I know him by the name Sathish George, he had posted some snaps in Orkut... orkut -

Samurai · 15th February 2009, 23:09

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Originally Posted by RSimonS

Well, I know him by the name Sathish George, he had posted some snaps in Orkut... orkut -

Ah! He is the guy who lit the fire in all of us by posting the initial recce shots. Can't believe I forgot his name.

12th February 2009, 11:43	#106
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,523 Times View My Garage	That's what happens when people unfamiliar with offroading do the reporting on TV or newspaper. We didn't have a single vehicle there which had diff locks, how that heck did that guy lock the differential. His words can't be applied even to the Jeep Thrills event that took place next day, eventhough it was 10 times or more tougher than MGE terrain.
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12th February 2009, 12:00	#107
pypkmsrikanth Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,124 Thanked: 283 Times View My Garage	At the cost of slating some of my fraternity, one has to take it with a pinch of salt, we also have to earn our butter isnt it.
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12th February 2009, 13:52	#110
Red Liner Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,209 Thanked: 18,044 Times	It should definitely not happen...steering issues to be checked. I have been having these issues for ages now, and its very annoying.
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12th February 2009, 13:55	#111
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,353 Times	Thanks Vikram - Technical explanation - the cumulative tolerance band on all steering related parts has deviated from it's centre line. Understandable explanation - part positions have shifted relative to each other, the most common being that the steering box has become loose on the chassis. Design of experiments can be conducted as follows - if after realigning and retightening the steering gear box if things get back to normal, then replace fasteners to retain torque, if things do not get back to normal, look for increased steering gearbox free play and slackness in the steering connecting rod, adjust as required. Look for outer steering column cracked at the bottom end. In worst case which happens mainly in accidented and abused vehicles, chassis crab can also set in (vehicle loloking like a parallelogram instead of a rectangle as seen from the top). Best regards, Behram Dhabhar Last edited by DHABHAR.BEHRAM : 12th February 2009 at 13:56. Reason: spelling mistake
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12th February 2009, 14:16	#112
Alfa_Kilo BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Jaipur Posts: 328 Thanked: 13 Times	It is probably a bent tie rod. The Mahindra tie rods cannot take the load zero (or negative) offset aftermarket wheels exert on them and bend easily. I bent the tie rod on my 540 with 235/75R15 tyres on 15x7 wheels twice. I am reinforcing the tire rods on my new jeep...or are all jeeps to be called jugaars now? If the tie rod is bent, you will have to reset the toe and recenter the steering, until it is bent again...
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12th February 2009, 16:35	#115
vinod_nookala Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,737 Thanked: 430 Times View My Garage	I think he is the guy who tested mahindra Axe for Car magazine if iam not wrong!
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