TPC10 - India's Toughest 4x4 Off-Road Competition

ex670c · 6th July 2010, 11:52

Hi Guys,

I was surprised to see the Palar, this green and took some time to find a suitable track to exit the river. Last we came to this stretch was in 2006 and it was bare, you could see the other bank.

Regards,

Arka

'72 Bullet · 6th July 2010, 12:09

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

Arka, how about snatching with tow straps, as you know Snatching is even quicker than winching!!!

--Sree--

Sree, I think for snatching you NEED 'snatch' straps. Snatch straps have the required elasticity, 'tow' straps do not.

Snatching with tow straps maybe possible, but as they don't have the elasticity required, there will be a very hard jerk (as opposed to a gentler pull of a snatch strap) that may damage you vehicle (tow points, tow-point mountings, maybe even the chassis).

Further, it will be dangerous.

sreerajunnithan · 6th July 2010, 15:55

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Originally Posted by ex670c

Hi Sree,

Snatching with a Tow Strap is poor technique and can lead to catastrophic failures(Tow Strap/Tow Hook/Towing Points(Shackles) on the Chassis).

Regards,

Arka

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Originally Posted by '72 Bullet

Sree, I think for snatching you NEED 'snatch' straps. Snatch straps have the required elasticity, 'tow' straps do not.

Snatching with tow straps maybe possible, but as they don't have the elasticity required, there will be a very hard jerk (as opposed to a gentler pull of a snatch strap) that may damage you vehicle (tow points, tow-point mountings, maybe even the chassis).

Further, it will be dangerous.

Yes I am talking about Snatch Straps (Kinetic Energy), not the normal tow straps. Is it allowed?

Thanks
--Sree--

ex670c · 6th July 2010, 16:29

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

Yes I am talking about Snatch Straps (Kinetic Energy), not the normal tow straps. Is it allowed?

Thanks
--Sree--

Hi Sree,

Anyone is allowed to do anything. But after going through these discussions, do you think its sensible/mature to snatch a tow rope or ISWR?

Regards,

Arka

sreerajunnithan · 6th July 2010, 17:20

I rest my case sir!!! But still did not understand the "Immature" part in snatch recovery, which is practiced every part of the world with proper materiel. I will try to figure out!!!

Thanks
--Sree--

Blue Thunder · 6th July 2010, 17:30

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

...how about snatching with tow straps...

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

...But still did not understand the "Immature" part in snatch recovery, which is practiced every part of the world with proper materiel. ...

You mentioned 'snatching with tow straps' which would imply trying to do snatch recovery using ordinary tow ropes (as opposed to elastic {kinetic} tow ropes). Now, that wouldn't be the best way to do things.

The world over, they use kinetic straps to do snatch recovery.

(PS to first-timers : NEVER, i repeat, NEVER ever try snatch recovery with kinetic tow ropes without having experienced hands around. )

sreerajunnithan · 6th July 2010, 17:41

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Originally Posted by sreerajunnithan

Yes I am talking about Snatch Straps (Kinetic Energy), not the normal tow straps. Is it allowed?

Thanks
--Sree--

^^^^

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Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

You mentioned 'snatching with tow straps' which would imply trying to do snatch recovery using ordinary tow ropes (as opposed to elastic {kinetic} tow ropes). Now, that wouldn't be the best way to do things.

The world over, they use kinetic straps to do snatch recovery.

(PS to first-timers : NEVER, i repeat, NEVER ever try snatch recovery with kinetic tow ropes without having experienced hands around. )

Please read the statement again!!!

--Sree--

matchless · 6th July 2010, 20:17

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Originally Posted by ex670c

Hi Guys,

I was surprised to see the Palar, this green and took some time to find a suitable track to exit the river. Last we came to this stretch was in 2006 and it was bare, you could see the other bank.

Regards,

Arka

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khan_sultan · 7th July 2010, 13:18

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Originally Posted by headers

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And YES - My front sway bar is removed too...

. You removed the sway bar??? No offense, but what happened to all these questions, apprehensions and what not all..!!!!!!

Seriously, I would like to know what changed your mind from these below ??

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Originally Posted by headers

Have you done a jump - all 4 wheels up in the air? No offense, but i guess then the sway bars would help control the rebound!

If the body roll increases, then the gypsy becomes funny to drive - You must be a great driver buddy!

I would'nt tamper much with my suspension settings as i am comfortable lifting wheels while doing obstacles!

Also, consider this situation - The vehicle is stuck [rear wheels halfway in muck and the front right is also maybe sinking in slowly - The front left will normally go in air [or stay on the ground in your case] Do you think it will give you traction in this situation?

Cheers

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Originally Posted by headers

Buddy, If such a situation does not give traction, then what is the point in removing the sway bars? I'm a little foxed in this mod you have done. I dont actually see the effect of increase in articulation!

ex670c · 7th July 2010, 13:28

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

. You removed the sway bar??? No offense, but what happened to all these questions, apprehensions and what not all..!!!!!!

Seriously, I would like to know what changed your mind from these below ??

Hi Shahnawaz,

Not Winning TPC09, the Most Performing 4WD in TPC09 and Individual Special Stages Competition

.

And Not to forget the 5 Maxxis Mudzillas.

Regards,

Arka

Red Liner · 7th July 2010, 13:50

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

. You removed the sway bar??? No offense, but what happened to all these questions, apprehensions and what not all..!!!!!!

If the body roll increases, then the gypsy becomes funny to drive - You must be a great driver buddy!

Seriously, I would like to know what changed your mind from these below ??

He basically agrees that you are a great driver

headers · 7th July 2010, 14:42

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

. You removed the sway bar??? No offense, but what happened to all these questions, apprehensions and what not all..!!!!!!

Seriously, I would like to know what changed your mind from these below ??

Please re-read my post

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ex...ml#post1968628

And I know you guys are waiting to jump on me

khan_sultan · 7th July 2010, 14:50

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And I know you guys are waiting to jump on me

Of course, what else do you expect.!!! Wait till we meet in person

headers · 7th July 2010, 18:40

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Originally Posted by khan_sultan

Of course, what else do you expect.!!! Wait till we meet in person

LOL KS: Lets not make this a chat session and get penalty points. Please remove these posts

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ex670c Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,470 Thanked: 1,937 Times View My Garage	Recce#5-6 (part#2) Hi Guys, I was surprised to see the Palar, this green and took some time to find a suitable track to exit the river. Last we came to this stretch was in 2006 and it was bare, you could see the other bank. Regards, Arka Attached Thumbnails
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sreerajunnithan BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Banagalore Posts: 445 Thanked: 11 Times	I rest my case sir!!! But still did not understand the "Immature" part in snatch recovery, which is practiced every part of the world with proper materiel. I will try to figure out!!! Thanks --Sree--
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