Re: Exhaust fumes in Thar Cabin Hi guys, ive been reading and find that Thar is a frustrating product. My first stint with Thar was with Behram Bhai. I drove with him from Dadar to Alibaug in the Thar prototype 521 with Jignesh Goradia close on our heels. I would like to tell you that he found it extremely cumbersome to keep up with the Thar and that he was driving his super modified Honda Civic type R. That should give you a picture of what the Thar prototype was like. That should also give you a picture of how good a driver Behram bhai is. He drove the Thar through potholes and non roads, often driving off the road into the dirt track to overtake serpentine ques of stalled trucks.....in the same speed what he would be doing on the tarmac.
The prototype had an amazing road holding capability and i was sold on the Thar even before they were actually planning to build it. It drove like a sports car on the road with the capability of sticking to the surfaces like a spider, defying the laws of physics and all we hear about the centre of gravity thing.
Then i saw the prototype conquer all terrain with snap of a finger.
At the end of the otr exercise, i was wanting to sign on the dotted line to buy the Thar iff it came at a reasonably good price. I was told that this is what the Thar will be like and cosmetically some changes will be made to make it more appealing. Heck i was ready to buy it with its ugly prototype looks too.
Finally, it was launched...at a price not digestible to me and i decided to wait a while before i invested my hard earned money on a vehicle that i would use mostly for off roading. What was a vehicle designed for offroading doing with a cat con hanging like a hammock from its underbelly?
I was disappointed when i drove the real Thar. It lacked the punch the responsiveness of the prototype. I was told the engine was different and so was the fuel map. "Why?", i wondered would they mess around with something they had got perfectly right in the prototype? i could not find an answer. I felt cheated and i had not even payed for it.
Now lets come to Behram bhai. I do not agree that he is unhelpful because he has always been eager to help me whenever i needed it. Maybe now he has shifted places so he is legally not inclined to comment on his previous employers or their products.
I dont think the deterioration of the Thar can be attributed to him. Its the top management who may have not understood the pulse of their customers. I shyed away from the Thar because the final product was nothing like the prototype. It was a rust bucket. Im surprised people are buying it even now. I felt cheated, so i bought a MM550 instead. BD may have felt the same way too when what he had created would have gone under the axe.
The crux is that the Thar is a substandard product. Get a MM550 guys, and after every conceivable add on, including an a/c it wont be close to 8 lakhs.
I also agree with the comment that if you want to fix a M&M vehicle, go anywhere except the M&M authorized place because they are the least informed lot regading their own product. I wasted good time and money getting the whine out of my 550's gearbox. After changing every part in the GB the whine didnt go, so they changed the top shaft and it still dint go they wanted to charge me with double labour. I paid for parts, deducted one time's labour and swore never to go to an M&M authorized workplace ever. probably i could have got the work done for as little as 1000 Rs, something i paid to get the whine out at a roadside mechanic's.
BD bhai, i understand Tejas's dilemma. I think you can not be constrained enough to answer his question. I know you can answer and should to put raised eyebrows at rest. I know that Tejas was like me, another potential buyer of the Thar who got disgruntled when he saw that the real Thar was nothing compared to the prototype you had built. You will have to admit that after such a fan following the 521 had, the actual Thar was nothing short of a damp squib.
Last but not the least i think it is unfair to hold BD bhai for the debacle of a vehicle the Thar is. Its the M&M top management who were not true to their potential buyers. Yet i think BD bhai you should help the Jeepers who are interested to make their vehicles into what 521 was. Surely theres no restriction attached to that.
Guys BD bhai is all help, trust me, just ask him nicely. If he says he does not know, id believe him coxz if he did he would definitely fix the problem....the problem is hes changed work places!!!!
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