Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 797749)

The front and rear open differentials can be a problem if one of the wheels lose traction, as I experienced lately.:D

Originally Posted by anupmathur (Post 797759)

Couldn't quite understand this.
One wheel loses traction: how does this represent a problem?
Can you elaborate please?

Originally Posted by tsk1979 (Post 797841)

A safari has front and rear diff's no locks, but LSD.
Does this mean that if one wheel is in the air and is spinning freely, the other wheel on the same action will also spin(albeit at a slower speed?)

Originally Posted by tsk1979 (Post 797984)

I don't think the Safari has a torque sensitive setup, its a viscous type LSD. I think some safari 4x4 experts can elaborate.
Italian boys.. any ideas?

Originally Posted by tsk1979 (Post 798086)

So front axle is open.
This means unless both rear wheels lose traction, you won't get stuck.

Originally Posted by gd1418 (Post 694082)

I encountered nearly 30 deg incline. I could be wrong but indeed it was a steep climb and I saw many a vehicle including a couple of lancers, omnis and a tavera going up a few distance and then loosing power and rolling back. I also tried in my safari in 2WD mode and midway the engine nearly stalled.

It was a metalled road and I had to engage 4H to climb up. When I returned back I went to garage get it checked for any damage to tranny & differential. There was none and I was assured that if at all one gets into a sticky situation 4WD can be used.

Like all others said it shouldn't be used over a long distance at a speed on metalled surfaces.

Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 797749)

You not only have 3 diffs, but also have 3 diff locks. That makes a huge difference when you are stuck. Mine has 3 diffs, but only 1 diff lock (central). The front and rear open differentials can be a problem if one of the wheels lose traction, as I experienced lately.:D

Originally Posted by tsk1979 (Post 797841)

A safari has front and rear diff's no locks, but LSD.
Does this mean that if one wheel is in the air and is spinning freely, the other wheel on the same action will also spin(albeit at a slower speed?)

Originally Posted by Samurai (Post 797911)

Actually it is better than having open diffs. If one wheel spins on the rear, it will force the other rear wheel to turn, therefore it won't get stuck.

But it also depends on the type of LSD. The viscous/clutch type LSD works as described above. But the torque sensitive LSD needs some torque on the spinning wheel. If one wheel is free-spinning, then there is no torque, then the other wheel has no torque either. Remember, torque is the minimum force required to make the wheel turn. In such cases, applying brakes on the spinning wheels can recover some torque.

Originally Posted by headers (Post 856609)

This is a great technique even in 2wd when one gets stuck and both wheels are spinning. Apply brake gently until one of the wheels stop rotating and the vehicle will move forward!

Originally Posted by Alfa_Kilo (Post 856630)

Have you done this Headers? To my understanding, this works only in vehicles with torsen type diffs or if the brakes can be selectively applied/brake bias is laterally unsymetrical.

Originally Posted by tsk1979 (Post 856661)

Well have tried it in the indica, and it does not work. Maybe it works in RWDs with drum brakes which are not as grippy as the discs.
Or maybe I need 100 horses more.