CJ3B - Wanderlust - Rebuild

madbullram · 21st August 2008, 21:23

I know Khan, i tried some 15 diff colours before finalizing this. I was sad but now I looking forward to building the engine and get it back on road

Mods: Can we rename the Thread as CJ3B - Wanderlust - Rebuild?

khan_sultan · 21st August 2008, 21:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by madbullram

...but now I looking forward to building the engine and get it back on road

That's the spirit buddy. Keep it going. cheers:.

Wishing you all the best.

Cheers,

simply_sunny001 · 21st August 2008, 21:43

Indeed very nice looking Jeep @MAdbullRam

We all will be waiting and glued to this thread for updates.

All the best

4x4addict · 21st August 2008, 23:24

Madbull

Where did you get the power steering installed? Is it done well? I want to install PS on my MM540.

nitrous · 22nd August 2008, 01:42

Who's doing the Jeep work in Chennai,Ram?

madbullram · 22nd August 2008, 06:51

4X4: It was done in Trivandrum by my friend. There is a small problem with the steering and we need to fix it. The PS is def good but let me wait till the problem is fixed before I pass my judgement. Also, I found the Aramada steering assembly awesome. Actually I wanted to setup the Armada one but we got this setup cheap so went with that.

Nitrous: Thats not yet decided. Currently, the Jeep is in Ramesh's shed. He is in Velachery near to the bridge. His dad has been working on Jeeps for the last 40 years and he also has been with Jeep and they service a lot of government jeeps. Plus I hear that this is not a compliecated engine. I am hearing good things about Popoular Automobiles who specialize in engine rebuilds. So still thinking.

Yesterday got the quote from the Mechanic:

Labour: 10,000 Rs
Lathe Work : 5,000 Rs

Spares Required:

Required List:
Main Bearing 10size 1set
Connect Rod bearing 10 size 1set
Connect rod 1 number
Main bearing trust washer 1 set
piston rings 1set 1st oversize
timing chain
timing chain tensioner
wall tapet
cam shaft bush (optional)
main bearing robe (made in france)
Head gaskit 3rd oversize (option 1 sympson=Rs.400, option2 mahindra=Rs.2100 both are good)
Radiator top and bottom hose
Oil filter

COST: 7,400 Rs (This was the quote from RK Automobiles in Chennai)

Optional List:

Clutch plate
Clutch bearing
clutch Disk

COST: 4,000 Rs

Engine oil 71/2 liter

Summary Cost for Engine Buildup:
1. Mechanic Charge = 10000
2. Lathe work = 5000
3. Required Parts = 7,400 (+ head gasket either sympson or OE)
4. Option Parts = 4,000
5. Engine Oil = 800 (Approx)
TOTAL = 27,200 Rs

So looking at a 30K budget.

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 22nd August 2008, 09:37

Dear Madbullram - From all posts that I have read so far, I understand that the car is now in Chennai (please correct me if I am wrong). My recommendation is to please get the work done by M&M Chennai dealer. Please PM me. I will guide you in totality. Any other route will not give desired results.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

madbullram · 22nd August 2008, 10:33

Hi Behram,
Thanks a lot. I did approach Mahindra dealers but the attitude was really bad. They treated me like unwanted fellow trying to rob their precious time from the Scorpio and other big customers. Also, since the Jeep also has Tata Seira components they said they will have to think about it. The guy was also saying they havent worked on such vehicles and have to think of taking it or see if they have anyone who has the experience.

I have sent a PM. Hope it would help!

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 22nd August 2008, 10:48

Please see my PM to you. Don't worry, you will have a turnaround experience soon.

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

madbullram · 23rd August 2008, 23:22

Went to the garage and did a thorough inspection. Still have decided on whom to hit the rebuild. I have my mechanic who seems to be honest and was straight forward. Has good experience and is a authorised government jeep technician.

Then I have Mahindra Garage OE guys who I am sure will do a very good job but will cost me twice which is little difficult situation for me considering my personal financial situation. Still thinking.

The current analysis:

the Piston is fine and only rings needs to be changed
One connecting rod is badly burnt and others are fine, still micron test has to be done. So need to buy one rod alone
Once done all might be 10 oversize and worst case would the bad one will be 20 oversize and the others 10 oversize

Now pics:

This is the badly affected one and also you can see the connecting rod that was burnt in the pics below.

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The first one is the burnt one and the next is the normal one which will be retained.

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madbullram · 23rd August 2008, 23:28

Pics continued:

Pistons, the analysis is that they are good and only the rings need to be changed.

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The leaking PS Unit, the analysis is to change the metal tube to the bolero type rubber ones.

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Pour in your thoughts pls

headers · 28th October 2008, 09:00

What does he mean by con rod burnt? Can you elaborate please? Generally, if one opens the engine, it is necessary to replace rings and in some cases bearings as well!

fk7 · 22nd January 2009, 11:10

so ram,

what happened to your wanderlust? has it been rebuilt?

FK

4x4 loaded · 19th March 2009, 22:11

These 3 pics tells you how we loaded the Jeep on the truck using a small mud mount and with help of locals . All they wanted was a cup of tea for this.I saw the difference between City Folks and Village Folks. Unadulterated life.
Attachment 40973

I should say that bit of luck was with you to get such a sandhead at the middle of nowhere

Ramsagar · 11th June 2009, 09:08

madbullram:Long time no see for almost 3 months.what had happend to the rebuild?
seriously waiting for the update.

21st August 2008, 21:23	#46
madbullram BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai&Ashburn Posts: 551 Thanked: 231 Times View My Garage	I know Khan, i tried some 15 diff colours before finalizing this. I was sad but now I looking forward to building the engine and get it back on road Mods: Can we rename the Thread as CJ3B - Wanderlust - Rebuild? Last edited by madbullram : 21st August 2008 at 21:37.
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21st August 2008, 21:43	#48
simply_sunny001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London & Rohtak Posts: 1,340 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	Indeed very nice looking Jeep @MAdbullRam We all will be waiting and glued to this thread for updates. All the best
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21st August 2008, 23:24	#49
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,483 Thanked: 4,529 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	Madbull Where did you get the power steering installed? Is it done well? I want to install PS on my MM540.
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22nd August 2008, 01:42	#50
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	Who's doing the Jeep work in Chennai,Ram?
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22nd August 2008, 06:51	#51
madbullram BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai&Ashburn Posts: 551 Thanked: 231 Times View My Garage	4X4: It was done in Trivandrum by my friend. There is a small problem with the steering and we need to fix it. The PS is def good but let me wait till the problem is fixed before I pass my judgement. Also, I found the Aramada steering assembly awesome. Actually I wanted to setup the Armada one but we got this setup cheap so went with that. Nitrous: Thats not yet decided. Currently, the Jeep is in Ramesh's shed. He is in Velachery near to the bridge. His dad has been working on Jeeps for the last 40 years and he also has been with Jeep and they service a lot of government jeeps. Plus I hear that this is not a compliecated engine. I am hearing good things about Popoular Automobiles who specialize in engine rebuilds. So still thinking. Yesterday got the quote from the Mechanic: Labour: 10,000 Rs Lathe Work : 5,000 Rs Spares Required: Required List: Main Bearing 10size 1set Connect Rod bearing 10 size 1set Connect rod 1 number Main bearing trust washer 1 set piston rings 1set 1st oversize timing chain timing chain tensioner wall tapet cam shaft bush (optional) main bearing robe (made in france) Head gaskit 3rd oversize (option 1 sympson=Rs.400, option2 mahindra=Rs.2100 both are good) Radiator top and bottom hose Oil filter COST: 7,400 Rs (This was the quote from RK Automobiles in Chennai) Optional List: Clutch plate Clutch bearing clutch Disk COST: 4,000 Rs Engine oil 71/2 liter Summary Cost for Engine Buildup: 1. Mechanic Charge = 10000 2. Lathe work = 5000 3. Required Parts = 7,400 (+ head gasket either sympson or OE) 4. Option Parts = 4,000 5. Engine Oil = 800 (Approx) TOTAL = 27,200 Rs So looking at a 30K budget. Last edited by madbullram : 22nd August 2008 at 07:01. Reason: adding spares list
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22nd August 2008, 09:37	#52
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,353 Times	Dear Madbullram - From all posts that I have read so far, I understand that the car is now in Chennai (please correct me if I am wrong). My recommendation is to please get the work done by M&M Chennai dealer. Please PM me. I will guide you in totality. Any other route will not give desired results. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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22nd August 2008, 10:33	#53
madbullram BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai&Ashburn Posts: 551 Thanked: 231 Times View My Garage	Hi Behram, Thanks a lot. I did approach Mahindra dealers but the attitude was really bad. They treated me like unwanted fellow trying to rob their precious time from the Scorpio and other big customers. Also, since the Jeep also has Tata Seira components they said they will have to think about it. The guy was also saying they havent worked on such vehicles and have to think of taking it or see if they have anyone who has the experience. I have sent a PM. Hope it would help!
	() Thanks

22nd August 2008, 10:48	#54
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,353 Times	Please see my PM to you. Don't worry, you will have a turnaround experience soon. Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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23rd August 2008, 23:22	#55
madbullram BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai&Ashburn Posts: 551 Thanked: 231 Times View My Garage	Engine Pics Went to the garage and did a thorough inspection. Still have decided on whom to hit the rebuild. I have my mechanic who seems to be honest and was straight forward. Has good experience and is a authorised government jeep technician. Then I have Mahindra Garage OE guys who I am sure will do a very good job but will cost me twice which is little difficult situation for me considering my personal financial situation. Still thinking. The current analysis: the Piston is fine and only rings needs to be changed One connecting rod is badly burnt and others are fine, still micron test has to be done. So need to buy one rod alone Once done all might be 10 oversize and worst case would the bad one will be 20 oversize and the others 10 oversize Now pics: This is the badly affected one and also you can see the connecting rod that was burnt in the pics below. The first one is the burnt one and the next is the normal one which will be retained. Last edited by madbullram : 23rd August 2008 at 23:31.
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23rd August 2008, 23:28	#56
madbullram BHPian Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chennai&Ashburn Posts: 551 Thanked: 231 Times View My Garage	Pics continued: Pistons, the analysis is that they are good and only the rings need to be changed. The leaking PS Unit, the analysis is to change the metal tube to the bolero type rubber ones. Pour in your thoughts pls
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28th October 2008, 09:00	#57
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	What does he mean by con rod burnt? Can you elaborate please? Generally, if one opens the engine, it is necessary to replace rings and in some cases bearings as well!
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22nd January 2009, 11:10	#58
fk7 BHPian Join Date: May 2008 Location: Calicut/Dubai Posts: 170 Thanked: 160 Times	so ram, what happened to your wanderlust? has it been rebuilt? FK
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19th March 2009, 22:11	#59
4x4 loaded BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Kolkata Posts: 138 Thanked: 13 Times	These 3 pics tells you how we loaded the Jeep on the truck using a small mud mount and with help of locals . All they wanted was a cup of tea for this.I saw the difference between City Folks and Village Folks. Unadulterated life. Attachment 40973 I should say that bit of luck was with you to get such a sandhead at the middle of nowhere
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11th June 2009, 09:08	#60
Ramsagar Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: BLR_Nellore(AP) Posts: 1,396 Thanked: 252 Times View My Garage	madbullram:Long time no see for almost 3 months.what had happend to the rebuild? seriously waiting for the update.
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