CL340-4WD wish list - what you really want in your CL340-4WD?

NDMS · 8th February 2010, 22:27

Now we are talking. This comes from another M&M guy right? Might be feasible to provide a cheaper 4*4 as a basic SWB with new engine(BS?) and other improvements to pass CMVR.
I must say this way of developing and launching a vehicle by Mahindras is great, the way they brought the Thar.

Regards

Pranav

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 8th February 2010, 22:58

NDMS can you clarify which "way" you are talking about?

Spike

NDMS · 8th February 2010, 23:21

I wrote, the way they brought the Thar, by taking so much inputs and suggestions from the target customers the 4*4 crowd. Wasn't this the way or just to create a hype. This way is a good way, I hope I am clear now. Either You don't like good words or you are not from M&M. I thought you were with Behram sir.

Am I striking wrong chords or talking to a wrong person.

Regards

Pranav

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 8th February 2010, 23:27

thanks ndms, you are clear now,

Spike

GrayBerry · 9th February 2010, 00:12

I would prefer a very basic version. A straight forward, simple and functional Jeep. As earlies said, Jeep was a hit for its rugged and functional design. I would buy a classic for offroading only. Thar will be my daily drive and for highways.
Classic should be as simple as to be repaired and modified in my garage, I would not opt for a CRDi(yes, I know BS4). Speed is not required for this offroader, but rugged, hardy and water proof (include engine as well) will be great.

Blue Thunder · 9th February 2010, 15:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

jaggu bhai, what if you have a replacement for CL

?

Spike

do you mean an improvement on the existing Major 4X4 ?

Spitfire · 9th February 2010, 15:48

And starts a wild goose chase...

Jaggu · 9th February 2010, 16:21

I want one in short chassis

But hey it would be great to see a new CL also, though might not really strike the chord with urban offroad chaps (majority in TBHP) if its made for only rural travel and not really suitable for offroading.

Tejas@perioimpl · 9th February 2010, 16:28

I donate my classic for trials if they wish to experiment by installing a scorpio engine. No fee, it's free. I just get to keep the engine once it's mated successfully. Oh, and if you want to test out the MSD, that's fine too; you can keep the old axle. And i'm not greedy, i don't need IFS, the old leaf will do.

Samurai · 9th February 2010, 16:55

Spike, can you clarify whether you are referring to CL340 or CL500? Mahindra doesn't have the engine to qualify for M1 category, that eliminates 2 seater or 4 seater version. And I can't imagine a 7 seater SWB...

SPIKE ARRESTOR · 9th February 2010, 21:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Samurai

Spike, can you clarify whether you are referring to CL340 or CL500? Mahindra doesn't have the engine to qualify for M1 category, that eliminates 2 seater or 4 seater version. And I can't imagine a 7 seater SWB...

@Samurai, for qualifying into M1 category it is not the just the engine, your reference mass also matters, if your reference mass lies within that class you can still launch the vehicle, Mahindra vehicles are sold as M1 because they specify the criteria (emission class) of N1 category (yes you are right they don't have engine as of now), only some parameters like Drivers field of vision, seat anchorage, external projections, pass by noise, test for interior fittings change when the vehicle is placed in M1 category, regarding your query on the 7 seater SWB what if the WB is sufficient to accomodate 7-8 people,i hope you must have got the smell by now

Spike

NDMS · 9th February 2010, 23:12

The post by Spike is pointed towards the new Major I guess that was being discussed in the Major 4*4 thread with new engine and color options.

Regards

Pranav

DirtyDan · 11th February 2010, 14:38

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Originally Posted by Samurai

WHy 4 lakhs, Samurai? Do not forget that the major retails for higher. M&M is not doing charity, it's a business, they have to have their share of profits.

You know what you can get for 4 lakhs in the Indian market, don't you - Spark, Estilo etyadi...

A simple 4x4, bare bones, should have low production costs, e.g. much lower than Spark, Estilo etc..... 4.5L to 5.3L should be doable. The more equipment and refinement it has, the more likely it is to compete with the Thar and that ain't a good thing for M&M. This new swb jeep has to be different in equipment and price from the Thar or customers will just buy the Thar.

I imagine there is an engine in development or on an existing platform that is BSIV compliant and that can power a SWB 4x4 with vim and vigor.

trammway · 23rd December 2010, 00:05

Dear DB,

Congratulations for bringing New ERA MM540

aka Thar on reality. I'm sure the MM540 wishlist is what you were referring as customer inputs.

Now the Thar is made available and you already started questions for Thar V2, I have a strong feeling that you by starting this tread have a target to bring back "The Call of the Wild".

I hope that comes to reality(SWB) like Thar.

Waiting for your reply.....

8th February 2010, 22:27	#31
NDMS BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indore Posts: 66 Thanked: 3 Times	Now we are talking. This comes from another M&M guy right? Might be feasible to provide a cheaper 4*4 as a basic SWB with new engine(BS?) and other improvements to pass CMVR. I must say this way of developing and launching a vehicle by Mahindras is great, the way they brought the Thar. Regards Pranav
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8th February 2010, 22:58	#32
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,854 Thanked: 1,532 Times	NDMS can you clarify which "way" you are talking about? Spike
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8th February 2010, 23:21	#33
NDMS BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indore Posts: 66 Thanked: 3 Times	I wrote, the way they brought the Thar, by taking so much inputs and suggestions from the target customers the 44 crowd. Wasn't this the way* or just to create a hype. This way is a good way, I hope I am clear now. Either You don't like good words or you are not from M&M. I thought you were with Behram sir. Am I striking wrong chords or talking to a wrong person. Regards Pranav Last edited by NDMS : 8th February 2010 at 23:23.
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8th February 2010, 23:27	#34
SPIKE ARRESTOR Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Germany Posts: 2,854 Thanked: 1,532 Times	thanks ndms, you are clear now, Spike
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9th February 2010, 00:12	#35
GrayBerry BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 174 Thanked: 22 Times	Classic as an true offroader I would prefer a very basic version. A straight forward, simple and functional Jeep. As earlies said, Jeep was a hit for its rugged and functional design. I would buy a classic for offroading only. Thar will be my daily drive and for highways. Classic should be as simple as to be repaired and modified in my garage, I would not opt for a CRDi(yes, I know BS4). Speed is not required for this offroader, but rugged, hardy and water proof (include engine as well) will be great.
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9th February 2010, 15:48	#37
Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,312 Thanked: 774 Times	And starts a wild goose chase...
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9th February 2010, 16:21	#38
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,906 Times	I want one in short chassis But hey it would be great to see a new CL also, though might not really strike the chord with urban offroad chaps (majority in TBHP) if its made for only rural travel and not really suitable for offroading.
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9th February 2010, 16:28	#39
Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,581 Times View My Garage	I donate my classic for trials if they wish to experiment by installing a scorpio engine. No fee, it's free. I just get to keep the engine once it's mated successfully. Oh, and if you want to test out the MSD, that's fine too; you can keep the old axle. And i'm not greedy, i don't need IFS, the old leaf will do.
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9th February 2010, 16:55	#40
Samurai Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore/Udupi Posts: 25,828 Thanked: 45,521 Times View My Garage	Spike, can you clarify whether you are referring to CL340 or CL500? Mahindra doesn't have the engine to qualify for M1 category, that eliminates 2 seater or 4 seater version. And I can't imagine a 7 seater SWB... Last edited by Samurai : 9th February 2010 at 17:07.
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9th February 2010, 23:12	#42
NDMS BHPian Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Indore Posts: 66 Thanked: 3 Times	The post by Spike is pointed towards the new Major I guess that was being discussed in the Major 4*4 thread with new engine and color options. Regards Pranav
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23rd December 2010, 00:05	#44
trammway Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bridgewater USA Posts: 1,150 Thanked: 475 Times View My Garage	Re: CL340-4WD wish list - what you really want in your CL340-4WD? Dear DB, Congratulations for bringing New ERA MM540 aka Thar on reality. I'm sure the MM540 wishlist is what you were referring as customer inputs. Now the Thar is made available and you already started questions for Thar V2, I have a strong feeling that you by starting this tread have a target to bring back "The Call of the Wild". I hope that comes to reality(SWB) like Thar. Waiting for your reply.....
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