Snorkel for my 4x4

Jaggu · 10th August 2010, 19:29

Bumpers are temporarily removed (though i prefer spidey without them

), snorkel fitment inside was tricky due to the bilstien's clamping in spidey. Small rework had to be done to do the piping for this.

@ happy: Exhaust has a clamp mouth at the end

davids4x4mm550 · 24th October 2010, 14:03

here is my mm550 with its snorkel work being done

V-16 · 29th June 2011, 04:16

One question to all those who have fitted this type of snorkel. Does it in any way hamper vision while driving? Are there any blind corners? I would feel a mushroom head snorkel fitted at Bonnet length would hamper vision as much as this set up would.

svsantosh · 29th June 2011, 08:23

This setup hardly poses a line of sight problem!! You never notice it, the A Pillar will cover it nicely. PS - If you are getting the fiber/placstic one, you need to be extra careful with trees/thick branches, else will crack the head into pieces. I got a swastik made aluminum replica, heavy - but cant break.

davids4x4mm550 · 5th July 2011, 18:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by V-16

One question to all those who have fitted this type of snorkel. Does it in any way hamper vision while driving? Are there any blind corners? I would feel a mushroom head snorkel fitted at Bonnet length would hamper vision as much as this set up would.

No Gogi my set up does not hamper vision.

Sudarshan · 5th July 2011, 21:33

Excuse me Sirs ,

can anyone tell how water ( Rain/splash ) gets separated in this thing ? ( the snorkel )

I really don't know much about this -- trust me

Is there any drawing to illustrate ?

Sudarshan

lugnut · 5th July 2011, 22:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudarshan

Excuse me Sirs ,

can anyone tell how water ( Rain/splash ) gets separated in this thing ? ( the snorkel )

I really don't know much about this -- trust me

Is there any drawing to illustrate ?

Sudarshan

Ditto - seems to me a mushroom head snorkel like this makes more sense ?

V-16 · 6th July 2011, 02:01

David does your set up allow you to put your windscreen down if need be? Im looking at an alternative where i do not have to fix it to the windscreen frame, though the chances of my putting the windscreen frame down and driving are very remote, yet i do not want to loose the aspect.

4X4er · 6th July 2011, 13:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudarshan

Excuse me Sirs ,

can anyone tell how water ( Rain/splash ) gets separated in this thing ? ( the snorkel )

I really don't know much about this -- trust me

Is there any drawing to illustrate ?

Sudarshan

Hi Rajubhai,

here is an excerpt from the Safari Snorkel catalogue.

All Safari Charge Air Rams feature a highly effective water separator system built right into the air ram in order to remove rain water from the incoming air stream - thus ensuring safe engine operation through even the most torrential tropical storms.

An added benefit of the unique Safari Charge Air Ram is that it can be rotated to any position. This means great peace of mind for those who plan to travel in cold or high altitude conditions where heavy snow falls are anticipated. By rotating the air ram to face away from the prevailing wind/direction of motion, the air ram delivers additional protection from the choking effects of snow build-up inside the air intake.

ramkya1 · 9th July 2011, 23:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudarshan

Excuse me Sirs ,

can anyone tell how water ( Rain/splash ) gets separated in this thing ? ( the snorkel )

I really don't know much about this -- trust me

Is there any drawing to illustrate ?

Sudarshan

Been searching for a cross section drawing of the snorkel head for some time on the web.... no luck. At last decided to buy one and learn how this works, should be simple but I don't know how they design it!!

After I started thinking on this been noticing most trailer trucks have snorkels now-a-days, I need to check out one of the heads to see how they separate water.

--Ramky
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jeepster · 10th July 2011, 08:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sudarshan

can anyone tell how water ( Rain/splash ) gets separated in this thing ? ( the snorkel )
Is there any drawing to illustrate ?

Quote:

Originally Posted by 4X4er

All Safari Charge Air Rams feature a highly effective water separator system built right into the air ram in order to remove rain water from the incoming air stream - thus ensuring safe engine operation through even the most torrential tropical storms.

An added benefit of the unique Safari Charge Air Ram is that it can be rotated to any position. This means great peace of mind for those who plan to travel in cold or high altitude conditions where heavy snow falls are anticipated. By rotating the air ram to face away from the prevailing wind/direction of motion, the air ram delivers additional protection from the choking effects of snow build-up inside the air intake.

correct.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ramkya1

Been searching for a cross section drawing of the snorkel head for some time on the web.... no luck.

here is a illustration of snorkel head.
i am thankful to Google.

ramkya1 · 10th July 2011, 09:32

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Originally Posted by jeepster

correct.

........................
i am thankful to Google.

Attachment 574986

And I am thankful to you.... don't know how it did not come up when I Googled it.

Of the 4 illustrations, the 4th own, bowl one seems to be the most scientific & effective one with least chance of water entering the intake. Now I understand the major difference from home-brew ones and a professional one.

--Ramky
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jeepster · 10th July 2011, 23:50

how about some thing like this?

a tractors air pre cleaner.

Sudarshan · 11th July 2011, 07:42

Thanks Nikhil for the Illustrations ,I knew you will have it

looks like a snorkel is not a child's play or a bling accessory for a city street dweller Jeep ( read Cafe showoffs ) .

Another Question -- what should be the ideal pipe dia ( going up from the air filter )

In other words how to determine the pipe dia wrt---

1) engine capacity ( inflow of air )

2) length of pipe from filter to head of snorkel

because if a smaller dia pipe is used its going to create some kind of hurdle for the free flow of air towards filter , will it affect the engine breathing ? ( say even for 2% ) -- smaller the pipe more the resistance

I think there must be some basis for this , can anyone explain ?

Sudarshan

P. S. I think the tractor precleaner will be much bigger for a snorkel head , may get ripped off by tree branches if not fitted properly

jeepster · 11th July 2011, 10:03

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Originally Posted by Sudarshan

I think the tractor precleaner will be much bigger for a snorkel head , may get ripped off by tree branches if not fitted properly

i dont know about the pipe length & dia.

the AEV snorkel kits are available with either pre-filter or scoop type.

American Expedition Vehicles (AEV) - JK Snorkel Technical Specifications

10th August 2010, 19:29	#91
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,907 Times	Bumpers are temporarily removed (though i prefer spidey without them ), snorkel fitment inside was tricky due to the bilstien's clamping in spidey. Small rework had to be done to do the piping for this. @ happy: Exhaust has a clamp mouth at the end
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24th October 2010, 14:03	#92
davids4x4mm550 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: pune Posts: 330 Thanked: 88 Times	here is my mm550 with its snorkel work being done Attached Thumbnails
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29th June 2011, 04:16	#93
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	re: Snorkel for my 4x4 One question to all those who have fitted this type of snorkel. Does it in any way hamper vision while driving? Are there any blind corners? I would feel a mushroom head snorkel fitted at Bonnet length would hamper vision as much as this set up would.
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29th June 2011, 08:23	#94
svsantosh Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Dubai Posts: 4,002 Thanked: 6,313 Times View My Garage	re: Snorkel for my 4x4 This setup hardly poses a line of sight problem!! You never notice it, the A Pillar will cover it nicely. PS - If you are getting the fiber/placstic one, you need to be extra careful with trees/thick branches, else will crack the head into pieces. I got a swastik made aluminum replica, heavy - but cant break.
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5th July 2011, 21:33	#96
Sudarshan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 1,200 Thanked: 880 Times View My Garage	re: Snorkel for my 4x4 Excuse me Sirs , can anyone tell how water ( Rain/splash ) gets separated in this thing ? ( the snorkel ) I really don't know much about this -- trust me Is there any drawing to illustrate ? Sudarshan
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6th July 2011, 02:01	#98
V-16 Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 4,594 Thanked: 950 Times View My Garage	re: Snorkel for my 4x4 David does your set up allow you to put your windscreen down if need be? Im looking at an alternative where i do not have to fix it to the windscreen frame, though the chances of my putting the windscreen frame down and driving are very remote, yet i do not want to loose the aspect.
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10th July 2011, 23:50	#103
jeepster Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: MH24 aka LATUR Posts: 1,694 Thanked: 1,927 Times View My Garage	re: Snorkel for my 4x4 how about some thing like this? a tractors air pre cleaner.
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11th July 2011, 07:42	#104
Sudarshan BANNED Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Pune Posts: 1,200 Thanked: 880 Times View My Garage	re: Snorkel for my 4x4 Thanks Nikhil for the Illustrations ,I knew you will have it looks like a snorkel is not a child's play or a bling accessory for a city street dweller Jeep ( read Cafe showoffs ) . Another Question -- what should be the ideal pipe dia ( going up from the air filter ) In other words how to determine the pipe dia wrt--- 1) engine capacity ( inflow of air ) 2) length of pipe from filter to head of snorkel because if a smaller dia pipe is used its going to create some kind of hurdle for the free flow of air towards filter , will it affect the engine breathing ? ( say even for 2% ) -- smaller the pipe more the resistance I think there must be some basis for this , can anyone explain ? Sudarshan P. S. I think the tractor precleaner will be much bigger for a snorkel head , may get ripped off by tree branches if not fitted properly Last edited by Sudarshan : 11th July 2011 at 07:45.
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