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View Poll Results: Where should I mount the lights?
Option 1 - Between the headlights 84 49.70%
Option 2 - on the sides 3 1.78%
Option 3 - on the roll bar 11 6.51%
Option 4 - on the windshield 9 5.33%
Option 5 - on the bull bar 41 24.26%
OPtion 6 - retain existing ones & add D shackles in the front 13 7.69%
Option 7 - none. upgrade existing lights 6 3.55%
Option 8 - Other. Please specify 2 1.18%
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Old 8th April 2010, 12:25   #31
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When i did research, i found that the Hellas with clear lens were used for spot beams and the ones with the ribbed glass was for spread out light.

Frankly, i'm quite happy with my 900 rupee neolights.
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Sharath, just check with Viji and use the same setup what he is using. it is custom made and serves as even auxiliary head lamps as well as off road lamps. It provides a narrow beam as well as wide beam which is very useful in ghats while taking sharp turns. i have experienced those lights in his vehicle. they are not readily available. Ask Viji for the formula to prepare one.
Yeah, we had already discussed that. It apparently works on 130W bulbs, I was hoping for a 55W solution if I am to use 4 lights. If I go for those custom lights, I'll limit it to two.

BTW, how can a single light provide both narrow and wide beam? Are you talking about a combo of lights?

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When i did research, i found that the Hellas with clear lens were used for spot beams and the ones with the ribbed glass was for spread out light.
That is true, I actually changed my headlights from clear to ribbed for that reason. I was hoping see some info wide beam angle in the specification.
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samurai , what you need are light force,
believe me its the best investment

for spread, select the 240 with hybrid filters,
and for your spot go for the 170

this combo is the best combination ever


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samurai , what you need are light force,
believe me its the best investment

for spread, select the 240 with hybrid filters,
and for your spot go for the 170

this combo is the best combination ever


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And Sharath, do let me know where you park, so that my nimble idle fingers have some use to shaft them outta there
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These are neolights. Cost 900 for a pair. Currently have 50w bulbs. Will change to 100w.

I have still not got wiring done. These lights I fit myself but I don't have enough experience with electricals. Will get it done on Thursday. Will use a Bosch relay.

I will post some night pics soon.


buddy with the neo's, if you change to 100w youll burn the reflectors
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I considered Lightforce or Higher Hellas but with people like Red Liner lurking around, i had to change my light options!

On a serious note, I didn't want to spend 30K for lights. But yes, after all the other things in the Jeep wishlist are done, then they will be installed.

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buddy with the neo's, if you change to 100w youll burn the reflectors
I know. That's why i bought neolights. Cheap option (Rs.900/pair), can easily be replaced.
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This is great. I think that I might also go in for these lights with 100w bulbs!!!
Whenever you get the wiring done please do write a short report on the light throw at night and also your experience!!!
Abhey has a pair or neo's 1010 & 1111 installed in his gypsy. I think it was 700 bucks for the 1010's and 800 for the 1111's + 500 for a lumax dual relay wiring harness. the lights are very good for what they cost. here is a pic
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Abhey has a pair or neo's 1010 & 1111 installed in his gypsy. I think it was 700 bucks for the 1010's and 800 for the 1111's + 500 for a lumax dual relay wiring harness. the lights are very good for what they cost. here is a pic
Thanks buddy. Your post couldn't have come at a better time. I was thinking of going to Karolbagh to get a pair or 2 installed in my CJ3B. Also I am thinking of installing a cigarette lighter so that I can charge my phone and GPS with that!!

Any idea what wattage are the bulbs in these lights 1010 & 1111???
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Any idea what wattage are the bulbs in these lights 1010 & 1111???
The 1010s have 50/55W. No idea about the 1111.
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Thanks buddy. Your post couldn't have come at a better time. I was thinking of going to Karolbagh to get a pair or 2 installed in my CJ3B. Also I am thinking of installing a cigarette lighter so that I can charge my phone and GPS with that!!

Any idea what wattage are the bulbs in these lights 1010 & 1111???
Hi Harjeev,

The 1010 & 1111 come with 50/55
the 1111 has an option of 100Watt bulb too. It is mentioned in their online catalog.

However 1111 are difficult to source, we could only get them in silver framing with yellow reflector and clear glass. they are bigger than the 1010's and the cover is better built. the 1010 should cost you about 300/350 a piece.
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samurai , what you need are light force,
believe me its the best investment

Allan
+1 to that, Light force are the best. check out the picture...

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@tejas & saintsinner
thanks for the info

@Sha
My gosh, just look at the beam go!!! Simply amazing.
I think that this must be a long exposure LE, if not then the lights are simply killer dude!
& if it was a LE then please share the exif data!
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+1 to that, Light force are the best. check out the picture...

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are these the blitz or the striker?

Allan, you are the dealer for lightforce. correct? do you stock the filters too?
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All the stuff that Samurai has listed plus the electrical winch that many of the classics have (ferdi, Steiger...)

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Hmm, before upgrading every light to 100w, it will be prudent to do some calculations.

Generally most of us use 100W for the headlights: 100W x 2 = 200W
Extra lights: 100W x 2 = 200W
Tail lights + turn lights, etc: say 50W max
Dashboard indicators, wipers, horn, etc: Say 50W max. (I am guessing!)

So the maximum load could be 500Watts.

That would draw a current of 500W/12V = 41.66 Amps.

The alternator on the CJ340/Classic can generate only 35A I think, although the older brochure says 25A. In other words, so much lights can drain away the battery.
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Allan, the lightforce is simply too expensive for me right now. And the filter can be very easily stolen.

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All the stuff that Samurai has listed plus the electrical winch that many of the classics have (ferdi, Steiger...)
I have the winch too, but you can't add that to the list. My Ramsey winch can draw 4860W (405A X 12V) at peak load, it can drain the battery so fast, no alternator can replenish it in real time. My calculation was about sustainable power usage without draining the battery.

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My gosh, just look at the beam go!!! Simply amazing.
I think that this must be a long exposure LE, if not then the lights are simply killer dude!
It is not long exposure, that is how it looks. Any oncoming driver, if subjected to that, will be blind for 5 minutes.
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