[manveet]

Originally Posted by desertfox

Manveet your observations are your observations, I also have eyes isnt it ?

When I saw the Bimbra hard top fitted in the red thar of a delhi police asi and he had brought back this vehicle for readjustments, I went over to have a look out of curiousity because I am very much in the market to buy a hard top - with the pre condition that it has to have an opening panel.

Now i clearly saw gaps on the back. Both side of the tailgate. Inside the tailgate door the rubber beading was off. One of the hinges was not straight, the glass in the windows was an ill fit and the customer was complaining to Gajendra.

You had 100 problems with the Thar - it did not suit YOUR purpose. And then you went ahead and bought the Thar.

And now you have some "specific requirement" once again and the Bimbra HT does not meet it. So you will go on and on and on about how poor it is in quality. But since it is the only HT that is 100% bullet proof reliable as on date, sometime in future you might go ahead and buy it.

Does this thread ring any bells ..

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...oked-thar.html

So you are not happy with the Bimbra HT. Fine. You made your point. Now don't buy it and don't keep repeating the same things over and over again.

Just like the hundreds of customer that bought the Thar were not foolish, similarly the 100-200 customers that bought the Bimbra HT are not foolish. The Indian market is very quality and price concious - only Good Quality and/ or VFM things sell.

About the vehicle in question, I will not comment. Let the other Bimbra HT owners share their view. Alternately, please reach out to Taran for references, I am sure he will be able to share plenty.

Originally Posted by desertfox

Talk of customer service.

Centre console - available but you will have to come later it needs to be painted.
Seat covers - available but you will have to come later we will make them but we are too busy till Dec 27.

Can you customize my soft top meanwhile to roll it open from the back. Yes it needs three hrs but after Dec 27 we are too busy and you will have to bring one metre of extra canopy material from Mayapuri we will not buy and stock a full roll.

Will a customer have so much time to keep going there for this work ? I cant spare so much time, my need is rapid service.

Then the price, Hella 550 set of two for Rs. 5500.
I will check the price from the distributor near Rajiv Chowk Gurgaon and post the price here.

Originally Posted by Turbanator

Sorry but how does this has anything to do with customer service ??

rather you should appreciate there truthful & transparent approach unlike many places specially in Delhi where people tend to take orders ( money ) and then come out with excuses for delays

Dear Desert Fox, still waiting for you to talk about Customer Service. Lol.

An interesting example of "customer service". I have personally left my vehicles with reputed names like SpeedSport and Autopsyche in the past. They requested for a weeks time and easily took more than a month. After 15 days or so, they stopped picking phone calls. From an "actual customer". NOT "potential customer".

Another interesting example of "customer service". I was ready to drop of my Thar at Bimbra's for HT installation but they REFUSED to accept my vehicle in anything less than 15 days. I committed my vehicle to them but in the meantime, I got to know about Performance Auto and got my HT installed from them. And have visited Bimbra many times after that for other work, and with mixed experiences - good and bad. Yes their prices are high, exorbitant sometimes. So don't go to them for that. You are comparing Bimbra prices to Distributor prices. That is ridiculous. If you find a restaurant expensive or over-priced - don't go their to eat. Period.

Why don't you get me a quote of Hella worklamps or wiper-blades from your distributor of choice and I can guarantee that I can personally beat your price, including home delivery. My contacts are that good. But then this is not my business and maybe I would not give you that price if it was my business. Does that mean you have "poor customer service". Puhleez.

I do not want to get into any argument with you. Atleast not until you respond to this link below.

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/4x4-ve...ml#post3245418

[desertfox]

I have bought not one but three Thars.
Two x Rocky beige CRDe and 1 X DI white.

The DI Thar is for farm and estate work.

As the elections get closer a few more Thars ( DI ) and Boleros or Sumo Gold will be purchased but that does not mean thet these vehicles are good.

We a a fleet of 30 to 40 Boleros in the All India Congress committee ranks.
Three are with us in Bihar right now.

We have an approval for a few more vehicles obviously more will be purchased either Bolero or Sumo and one or two Thar DI. The whole purpose is different here,

In the absence of any other similar option being available.
The present situations are more or less monopolistic for a 4x4 vehicle under 10 Lakhs.

Just back after a two day trip to Sariska will respond later.

[Ksingh544]

Originally Posted by Avigo71

I have put the new ones with a thick rubber coating on it which is meant for off roading. Only time & a few rough rides will prove if they are tough enough.
Fingers crossed!

Meanwhile attaching pics of a little test with my Thar this weekend!

Hi Avigo,

The hardtop that you have got looks absolutely smashing ! Thanks for sharing the contact details of the concerned people, I spoke with Vaibhav this morning.
You will be happy to know that in his email, the reference pics he sent are of your vehicle.

Now having the HT for some time, what is your review in terms of noise, any air coming in and its ability to keep out the water ? Since I think you are the only person here with this particular HT model, your feedback is super important (for me atleast as Im looking to buy a Thar soon)

Having reviewed most of the HT's in Delhi, including Bimbra; yours looks much superior and professionally finished. Though its expensive and would need me to get the vehicle to Mumbai, I reckon its worth the effort.

Looking forward to your feedback on the Hardtop's performance, along with the ARC springs.

cheers

Kundan

[Avigo71]

Hi Ksingh544,
Thanks a lot for your compliments. I am very happy with my HT by Mahindra Customisation. I have absolutely no problems with it since I've got it. The problem is that the Thar as a vehicle is not a very sophisticated one. It has it's own many rattles, squeaks air leaks etc which get enhanced because the cabin is so super silent now! These noises normally get lost in a canvas top. Having said that, I will still say that it's a much much better feeling than the soft top. The fit & finish as I've said in my earlier posts is much better than the showroom Thar or many other HTs I've seen. I've not yet experienced the notorious Mumbai monsoon but have tested the top extensively at various service stations with their pressure water sprays, and not a drop gets in.
The Arc Carbon Leafs are an absolute boon to the Thar. No complaints at all. I am not an EXTREME off Roader like some I've seen on this forum ( or like a mad OTR Rebel group I've joined!), but I've done a bit of axle twisting, water wading, rash jumping around etc, and the leafs performed really well. I'm attaching a few pics as a reference.
All in all I'm very happy with my Mahindra HT as well as the Arc Carbon Leafs. Go for both without a doubt!

Originally Posted by Ksingh544

Hi Avigo,
The hardtop that you have got looks absolutely smashing ! Thanks for sharing the contact details of the concerned people, I spoke with Vaibhav this morning.
Kundan

Few more pics of a OTR Group I'm part of. My Thar keeps up with their madness with my HT & Carbon Leafs!

[akshay4587]

Originally Posted by Avigo71

Hi Ksingh544,
Thanks a lot for your compliments. I am very happy with my HT by Mahindra Customisation. I have absolutely no problems with it since I've got it. The problem is that the Thar as a vehicle is not a very sophisticated one. It has it's own many rattles, squeaks air leaks etc which get enhanced because the cabin is so super silent now! These noises normally get lost in a canvas top. Having said that, I will still say that it's a much much better feeling than the soft top. The fit & finish as I've said in my earlier posts is much better than the showroom Thar or many other HTs I've seen. I've not yet experienced the notorious Mumbai monsoon but have tested the top extensively at various service stations with their pressure water sprays, and not a drop gets in.
The Arc Carbon Leafs are an absolute boon to the Thar. No complaints at all. I am not an EXTREME off Roader like some I've seen on this forum ( or like a mad OTR Rebel group I've joined!), but I've done a bit of axle twisting, water wading, rash jumping around etc, and the leafs performed really well. I'm attaching a few pics as a reference.
All in all I'm very happy with my Mahindra HT as well as the Arc Carbon Leafs. Go for both without a doubt!






Few more pics of a OTR Group I'm part of. My Thar keeps up with their madness with my HT & Carbon Leafs!

Looks good;how much did you pay for the HT,and what modifications were needed to the frame to fix it.

[Avigo71]

Originally Posted by akshay4587

Looks good;how much did you pay for the HT,and what modifications were needed to the frame to fix it.

Thanks a lot. About a lac. If you go back in this thread you will see all details including some work in progress pics.

[jeepbug]

Hey Everyone, I would like to share something really exciting which I just came across recently for Hardtops. Get in touch with Azad4x4 - who have come up with an excellent - well engineered and superb quality MS Hardtops.

I am getting mine 550 restored and very confident with these guys... they are the same Group who are also into buses etc and done Volvo coaches in India

[sidindica]

Thought of sharing this.

[akshay4587]

Originally Posted by jeepbug

Hey Everyone, I would like to share something really exciting which I just came across recently for Hardtops. Get in touch with Azad4x4 - who have come up with an excellent - well engineered and superb quality MS Hardtops.

I am getting mine 550 restored and very confident with these guys... they are the same Group who are also into buses etc and done Volvo coaches in India

Where are the Azad 4X4 guys located?

[Ksingh544]

Originally Posted by akshay4587

Where are the Azad 4X4 guys located?

Hi they are located in Delhi, the proprietor is a good friend of mine. Their website is http://www.azad4x4.com/

You can reach their director mr Chadha at 09971900303, you can give my reference (kundan singh).

I've seen their vehicles in person and it's good quality stuff.

Good luck.

[Ksingh544]

Originally Posted by Avigo71

Hi Ksingh544,
Thanks a lot for your compliments. I am very happy with my HT by Mahindra Customisation. I have absolutely no problems with it since I've got it. The problem is that the Thar as a vehicle is not a very sophisticated one. It has it's own many rattles, squeaks air leaks etc which get enhanced because the cabin is so super silent now! These noises normally get lost in a canvas top. Having said that, I will still say that it's a much much better feeling than the soft top. The fit & finish as I've said in my earlier posts is much better than the showroom Thar or many other HTs I've seen. I've not yet experienced the notorious Mumbai monsoon but have tested the top extensively at various service stations with their pressure water sprays, and not a drop gets in.
The Arc Carbon Leafs are an absolute boon to the Thar. No complaints at all. I am not an EXTREME off Roader like some I've seen on this forum ( or like a mad OTR Rebel group I've joined!), but I've done a bit of axle twisting, water wading, rash jumping around etc, and the leafs performed really well. I'm attaching a few pics as a reference.
All in all I'm very happy with my Mahindra HT as well as the Arc Carbon Leafs. Go for both without a doubt!

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Few more pics of a OTR Group I'm part of. My Thar keeps up with their madness with my HT & Carbon Leafs!

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Super pictures.

I intend to use the thar as my daily drive in Delhi, along with monthly highway trips across North India. Do you reckon the Mahindra top will suffice for that ?

Having driven the thar in both Delhi and in Goa I know about its crudeness and lack of finesse.

[Avigo71]

Originally Posted by Ksingh544

Super pictures.



I intend to use the thar as my daily drive in Delhi, along with monthly highway trips across North India. Do you reckon the Mahindra top will suffice for that ?



Having driven the thar in both Delhi and in Goa I know about its crudeness and lack of finesse.

People seem to be happy as it's daily commute vehicle and also use on long drives a lot. I personally would not be too comfortable on long drives in the stock Thar... but with a HT of this quality, Carbon Leafs & also Scorpio seats that I have installed, the ride is absolutely "easy". I have done a couple of treks of about 300kms in a day without a problem. Out here let me also point out that the Thar is a 'raw' vehicle and one has to be a driving enthusiast and a "Jeeper" to enjoy a Thar. It IS a cult thing! But I believe that a new Thar with little more sophistication is soon due...

[Ksingh544]

Originally Posted by Avigo71

People seem to be happy as it's daily commute vehicle and also use on long drives a lot. I personally would not be too comfortable on long drives in the stock Thar... but with a HT of this quality, Carbon Leafs & also Scorpio seats that I have installed, the ride is absolutely "easy". I have done a couple of treks of about 300kms in a day without a problem. Out here let me also point out that the Thar is a 'raw' vehicle and one has to be a driving enthusiast and a "Jeeper" to enjoy a Thar. It IS a cult thing! But I believe that a new Thar with little more sophistication is soon due...

Thanks for your prompt and honest feedback. If I do end up getting the thar it will have a HT, replaced springs and beefed up seats for comfort.

Prior to my Scorpio I drove a tempo trax judo for 6 years and have a good idea of that jeep feel and finish. Very tempted to go back to that life.

I agree with you it's a cult thing, like a friend recently said " style ki koi keemat nahi hoti" hahaa.

Cheers.

[Avigo71]

Originally Posted by Ksingh544

Thanks for your prompt and honest feedback. If I do end up getting the thar it will have a HT, replaced springs and beefed up seats for comfort.



Prior to my Scorpio I drove a tempo trax judo for 6 years and have a good idea of that jeep feel and finish. Very tempted to go back to that life.



I agree with you it's a cult thing, like a friend recently said " style ki koi keemat nahi hoti" hahaa.



Cheers.

Absolutely! All the best
👍

[Dry Ice]

Originally Posted by sidindica

Thought of sharing this.

Was this 'over-the-curb' parking on purpose or an oversight? Maybe he didn't feel the Jeep going over it!