[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by nitrous

^^Switch to dry type air filter from the oil bath type. We've noticed good power gains in Arka's jeep.

My MM540 (2002 model) came with the Dry type. So I will just keep the same unit with the XD3P engine.

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Originally Posted by GTO

Unless the 540 had modifications or a bigger engine, I dont see why. Logically, the lighter weight and smaller dimensions of the Classic (wheelbase etc.) would make it a better performer off the road.

You forgot the wheelbase and weight factor GTO..

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

The Classic is really a terrible, terrible off-roading piece of junk.

Well..thats if :

1. You dont KNOW how to HANDLE JEEPS
2. Have not done Offroad in a Jeep
3. Have done offroad in one of those new sissy vehicles and have the "moolah" to do the offroad in comfort.

Classics are awesome machinery..but need to be maintained well to take the best out of them.

If I were GTO, I would not have stopped with an infraction: LOL

Originally Posted by GTO

DirtyDan : My Jeep is NOT for sale . You ought to get an infraction for personally attacking my Jeep like that.
I dont presume the Major comes with free wheeling hubs as stock fitment. You could add them after-market though.

You dont need freewheeling hubs IMO. Its better as incase we want to try a terrain in 2WD mode, get stuck, then you'll be forced to get down to do the works!

Originally Posted by GTO

Guess which engine is currently being shoehorned into my Classic? Yup, the same XD3P 2.5 liter 72.5 horse unit.

Yeah, we are all eagerly awaiting your report! When is it gonna be ready?

Originally Posted by susan3004

Major does not have a free wheeling hub.

Thats great news..way to go..maybe i too should look for one..going by your posts.

Originally Posted by nitrous

^^Switch to dry type air filter from the oil bath type. We've noticed good power gains in Arka's jeep.

Each has its own advantages..Oil bath filter is better in very dusty conditions as well as in areas where deep fording is necessary.

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

My MM540 (2002 model) came with the Dry type. So I will just keep the same unit with the XD3P engine.

To each his own!

[svsantosh]

all 4WD/AWD on one page - a simple, easy to understand overview - all available 4WD, all wheel drive and 4x4 systems and their differences - 4WD concepts, their function, their layout, their purpose, their advantages

I got this from the thread 'lamba free wheeling hubs'.

Now is this Mahindra Major a fulltime 4WD or a part time.

Also what is the Gypsy, or the safari 2.2 4x4, Scorpio 4x4 electric, bolero LX 4x4, bolero SX electric 4x4, mahindra rakshak, mahindra axe, Force Gurkha?, etc etc available in India.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by svsantosh

Now is this Mahindra Major a fulltime 4WD or a part time.

Also what is the Gypsy, or the safari 2.2 4x4, Scorpio 4x4 electric, bolero LX 4x4, bolero SX electric 4x4, mahindra rakshak, mahindra axe, Force Gurkha?, etc etc available in India.

This is a total off-topic subject, please start a new thread for detailed discussion. To be quick, I think in India GV is the only full-time 4x4, CR-V and Tucson have auto-4x4, and rest are all part-time 4x4.

[svsantosh]

Guys Please read the chain, It ends with the complete "TECHNICAL" details of the Major 4X4. I just spoke to PADMARAJ JAIN - 9845694939 from Bangalore India Garage, Learnt that Major 4x4 costs 5.17.Rs OTR in bangalore. Also learnt that Invader 4X4 is 6.17 OTR and currently has a 50K offer for the month of April from Mahindra company.

Warranty - Major 4x4 - 3 Years UNLIMITED Mileage (Sounds reassuring)
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Engine Specifications -
Engine
MDI 3200 TC Direct Injection Diesel
Type
4-Stroke, 4 Cylinder, Inline

Bore/Stroke
88.9 mm / 101.6 mm
Cubic Capacity
2523 cc
Maximum Horse Power
63 HP @ 3200 RPM (IS)
Maximum Torque
18 kgm @ 1500 RPM (IS)
Fuel Injection System
Inline Pump
Compression Ratio
18 : 1
Weight of Engine
260 kg
General Specifications -
Cooling System
Belt driven pump on cylinder head.
Thermostat controlled.
Clutch Type
Single dry plate, outside dia. 235 mm.
Transmission
Type: 5 Speed,
Transfer Case
2 speed gear reduction, single shift lever
Gear ratio : High 1:1 ; Low 2.46 : 1
Front Axle
Full floating for 4WD only.
Dead tubular for 2WD
Max. Capacity : 907 kg
Ratio : 3.73 : 1
Rear Axle
Semi floating hypoid type.
Max. Capacity : 1134 kg
Ratio : 3.73 : 1
Steering
Worm and Roller type or recirculating ball type
Ratio : 20 : 1
Turning Circle Radius
5.86 m.
Brakes
Type : Hydraulic with TMC
Parking : Operates on rear service brakes.
Hand lever & cable type
Suspension
Front & Rear : Semi-elliptical leaf springs with hydraulic double acting telescopic shock absorbers
Wheels
Rim size: 16 x 4.5 in. Disc type, with five studs.
Tyres : 6.00 x 16, 8 PR
Frame
Ladder type with steel channel side members, four intermediate cross-members.
Electrical System
Battery :12 V / 75 Amps .hr.
Alternator 43 Amps.
Instruments
Speedometer (kms./ hr.), temperature and fuel gauge. Light indicators for battery charging, oil pressure, high beam and flasher. Hazard warning switch.
Fuel Tank
Capacity : 45 litres with electrical float unit .
Kerb Weight
CL 500 - Soft Top 2WD : 1225 kg. 4WD : 1300 kg.
CL 550 - Soft Top 2WD : 1235 kg. 4WD : 1310 kg.
Gross Vehicle Weight
CL 500 : 1770 kg. / CL 550 : 1950 kg.

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From: Khan [mailto:mrimdad.khan@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 16, 2008 11:29 AM
To: Sv, Santosh (GE Infra, Aviation, Non-GE)
Subject: Re: Mahindra Major Enquiry
Mahindra CL 550
Engine Specifications -----SEE ABOVE----

for india garage
PADMARAJ JAIN
9845694939
----- Original Message -----
From: K.PRASHANT@mahindra.com
To: -----@ge.com
Cc: mrimdad.khan@gmail.com ; indiagarage@airtelbroadband.in
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:40 PM
Subject: FW: Mahindra Major Enquiry
Hi Mr Santosh
Kindly give your contact no or address our consultant from india garage will come and give you the details of vehicle with price details.
Or you can call mr yatish 9900215207 he is consultant at india garage and will furnish the required details.
Warm Regards,
K.Prashant
Manager-Sales
Bangalore-AO
________________________________________
From: BHANU PRAKASH
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 3:22 PM
To: K PRASHANT
Subject: FW: Mahindra Major Enquiry
Prashant – get in touch with this customer
Regards
________________________________________
From: SREENIVASAN KAUSALYA
Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 11:06 AM
To: BHANU PRAKASH
Subject: FW: Mahindra Major Enquiry
Dear Bhanu,
Can someone in your office contact this customer?
Warm regards,

Kausalya Nandakumar | Brand Manager - Automotive Sector | Mahindra & Mahindra Ltd | 022 24905857 (Extension Line) | 022 24905773 (Board Line)

www.mahindrasmallcv.com - Partners in Progress
________________________________________
From: Sv, Santosh (GE Infra, Aviation, Non-GE) [mailto:------@ge.com]
Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 1:18 PM
To: SREENIVASAN KAUSALYA
Cc: CUSTOMERCARE
Subject: Mahindra Major Enquiry
Hello Sreenivasan Kausalya and Mahindra Family,

I am interested to buy a Mahindra Major 4X4 and I do not see any technical details of that jeep. Can you please share with me a brochure or the technical details of that vehicle? And what is the cost of that vehicle?
Thanks
Santosh SV
(Bangalore)
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[Samurai]

Originally Posted by svsantosh

Maximum Torque
18 kgm @ 1500 RPM (IS)

Now that is sweet, music to the ears.

Originally Posted by svsantosh

Suspension
Front & Rear : Semi-elliptical leaf springs with hydraulic double acting telescopic shock absorbers

Is this different from before, I mean the telescopic shocks?

They are still refering to it as CL500/CL550, I think Major is the marketing name. Please somebody tell me the difference between CL500 and CL550.

[svsantosh]

samurai, does this help

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...tml#post337415

(just noticed you have commented in the same thread, so you may already know of this post, "IF" my memory serves me right, the difference between 500 and 550 is got to do something with ONE engine or Wheelbase parameter. Not able to recollect it, )

Other gurus, plz help..

[dinar]

@svsantosh the prices mentioned by include the discount ????

[svsantosh]

Originally Posted by dinar

@svsantosh the prices mentioned by include the discount ????

let me clarify, Major 4x4 - 5.17 OTR,(Invader 4x4 6.17 OTR - April Dicsount 50K = 5.67 OTR Bangalore), hope that helps

[simply_sunny001]

Originally Posted by svsantosh

let me clarify, Major 4x4 - 5.17 OTR,(Invader 4x4 6.17 OTR - April Dicsount 50K = 5.67 OTR Bangalore), hope that helps

discount only on Invader ? ? not on Major ?

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Originally Posted by Samurai

Now that is sweet, music to the ears.

Yeah..but the international engine is HEAVY man..and not too great for offroad..

[simply_sunny001]

Originally Posted by headers

Yeah..but the international engine is HEAVY man..and not too great for offroad..

but nobody is going to buy a new jeep only for purely Off road,

[svsantosh]

Originally Posted by simply_sunny001

discount only on Invader ? ? not on Major ?

sales rule - discount low demand products. Never on higg demand products. If you stay anywhere near western ghats, andra, or the beautiful himalaya;s you may notice how much the major and CL650 (Longer WB for upto 10 people) sell Like HOT CAKES. So sorry sunny, no discounts for people like us on Major

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Originally Posted by simply_sunny001

but nobody is going to buy a new jeep only for purely Off road,

Sandeep, Hi,

Yeah, agreed, I was just stating that the international engine is not as refined as the Peugeot Engine and also has a very short powerband. There is amazing low end torque and the clever gearing makes driving one easy.

The real problem is faced only in some tough situations when you feel that the engine does not have juice.

But having said that, i agree that very very few jeeps [majors] are going to see such situations.

[Samurai]

Originally Posted by headers

Yeah, agreed, I was just stating that the international engine is not as refined as the Peugeot Engine and also has a very short powerband. There is amazing low end torque and the clever gearing makes driving one easy.

That probably explains why Invader comes with Peugeot XD-3P H IDI engine. No turbo lag to deal with.