[DirtyDan]

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

offroad_maniac:

Don't mean top sound rude man, but you looked at the picture of the Souvenir and thought it was based on SWB Classic, so forgive me for being skeptical about a SWB jeep from Mahindra.

Addict, I think he saw the actual tubs at the M&M plant. Then, he found a picture of a Major and tried to edit it for us to show us what he saw. See post #88. At least, I think that is what he is saying. But also read GTOs posts. There are a lot of rumors that something is happening in this general venue and these rumors come from outside this web site.

But maybe he just saw Souvenir tubes?????

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by offroad_maniac

Guys,

I think the model shown here as Major Souvenir is Actually a Mahindra Classic only. And it cant be a Major. I know it may sound stupid. But I have noticed the difference between the Souvenir & Major is that the Souvenir is SWB, just like the Classic & the Major is MWB. There is small increase in the wheelbase of Major which can be identified from the distance between the rear wheel cladding & door end. (Please compare the two photos in side profiles)

I was referring to the above post where he said the "Major Souvenir is Actually a Mahindra Classic"

If the rumours are true, I just hope that they are bringing back the MM540 with the Scorpio engine.

[GTO]

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

I think if Maruti had committed to putting a good Turbo Diesel in the Gypsy it would have sold in much larger numbers, given the over all refinement compared to jeep alternatives.

Totally agree with you. The Gypsy's low FE petrol was probably one of the largest obstacles to its success. Plus, in India we have developed this mindset where UV's = Diesel. A factory-fit & torquey diesel Gypsy sounds delicious.

[DirtyDan]

Originally Posted by GTO

Totally agree with you. The Gypsy's low FE petrol was probably one of the largest obstacles to its success. Plus, in India we have developed this mindset where UV's = Diesel. A factory-fit & torquey diesel Gypsy sounds delicious.

It strikes me as odd that the Army never asked for a diesel variant. Or, if not odd, suspicious.

[susan3004]

Originally Posted by DirtyDan

It strikes me as odd that the Army never asked for a diesel variant. Or, if not odd, suspicious.

Aah! Now that is one touchy issue!
Hail beurocracy. People responsible for selection of vehicles for the Army would never have had sat in either a Jeep or a Gypsy.
While the companies are blissfully happy that their decade old models are accepted in the Army and they donot have to bother about any R&D.

[GTO]

Could the Army be bothered with price differentials between petrol & diesel?

[kuttapan]

Originally Posted by GTO

Could the Army be bothered with price differentials between petrol & diesel?

I can't believe that Army top brass would be so dumb as to not see the advantages of diesel. And regarding the price differential, remember that Army gets hugely discounted prices(no tax either). So what is the hitch?

[Parm]

believe me the indian army has no problems, its the babus sitting in delhi who are the problem!

[4x4addict]

Originally Posted by Parm

believe me the indian army has no problems, its the babus sitting in delhi who are the problem!

Very true. The people who use the vehicles the most probably have the least amount of say in these decisions.

[Parm]

its like my dad giving me his lamretta to ride when i wanted a hero honda!

[Spitfire]

Most armies should "try" and follow one fuel for all vehicles (makes a lot of sense) - dont know about the Indian Army.

[ex670c]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Most armies should "try" and follow one fuel for all vehicles (makes a lot of sense) - dont know about the Indian Army.

Thats precisely why the Army opted for the New-Generation Vehicles

ALS 2.5Ton(Diesel) -- Nissan 1Ton (Petrol)
ALS 5.0Ton(Diesel) -- VFJ Shaktiman (Diesel)
MM550XD (Diesel) -- VFJ Jonga (Petrol)
MG413W (Petrol) -- M&M CJ3B (Petrol)

Also the MG413W has been retained because of the "Himalayan Experience"
aka "High Altitude" (Petrol & MPFI) gives good reliability & performance.

Susan3004 please correct me if I'm wrong.

Regards,

Arka

[DirtyDan]

Originally Posted by ex670c

Also the MG413W has been retained because of the "Himalayan Experience"
aka "High Altitude" (Petrol & MPFI) gives good reliability & performance.

Pre-crd, pre turbo thinking may still prevail, 'ay?

[Parm]

lots of cars with MPFI had problems in raid de himalays in 2003. my friends had their palio in the raid, they suffered injection clogging in high altitude, maybe cause of adultrated petrol!

they had K&N filter on the car, maybe sucked in too much dust along with air!

[amit V8]

has anyone seen the SUV OFFROADING in this week's AUTOCAR SHOW?? the souvenir got a 9/10 where the contenders were the Q7, pajero, getaway, endeavour, gypsy.
it was great. no it was FANTASTIC.