Where have the real 4x4's gone

GTO · 7th April 2005, 13:36

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I remember the Army Jonga 4X4 being marketed by the ordnance factory some 5-8 yrs back

4 liter 6 cylinder Petrol engine
110 bhp!

The only Indian machine that comes close to a Hummer. Seen some off-roading at an Army camp in Deolali : Indisputed capabilities.

GTO

man23ish · 11th April 2005, 17:56

Nice Poetry Zaphod, By-the-way, have you tried the Mahindra Bolero Invader with 4x4 and a DI engine.. That one looks like it fits your definition nicely..

Cheers,
Manish.

ex670c · 9th December 2005, 10:39

Hello Folks,
The only real 4x4 were the Mahindra JEEPs. To learn more about JEEPs and
JEEPing (off-roading) checkout
1- http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jeep_thrills/
2- http://arkapravasphotos.fotopic.net/
3- http://jeepthrills.in/community/

The 4x4 Meet is scheduled for Mid-end April in Bangalore.

Keepin' Jeepin'

Arka

jkdas · 9th December 2005, 10:49

Tata launched its 4x4 last day or so.
http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...truck-sut.html

tsk1979 · 9th December 2005, 12:35

You are right, the true 4x4 is missing.
The only 4x4 I have ever driven is the Gypsy King (Carburetted). It was a real blast. I have driven on half dry riverbeds, on mountainsides, slush etc., etc.,
I dont know if mahindra 4x4 are as good. Gypsy has one thing going for it, light weight. So its almost impossible to get stuck.

In the non sarding range, I wonder how will the base safari 4x4 do? But that will come to the 8.5-9L range

Another vehicle is the Tata SuT 4x4 Double cab, but you can seat just 5 people comfortably.

thainogkok · 9th December 2005, 23:05

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real 4x4's gone

i don't think real 4x4's go far away from india.
when we talk about real 4x4's that mean an 4x4 car that have low gear.
So, jimny has it Grand vitara Xl-7 has it. so these is a real 4x4's.

P.s. which month next years Suzuki new Grand vitara will be launch?

ex670c · 10th December 2005, 16:52

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Originally Posted by thainogkok

i don't think real 4x4's go far away from india.
when we talk about real 4x4's that mean an 4x4 car that have low gear.
So, jimny has it Grand vitara Xl-7 has it. so these is a real 4x4's.

P.s. which month next years Suzuki new Grand vitara will be launch?

about OFF-ROAD Performance. Otherwise the Ford Endeavour is the most capable 4x4 in its segment(10-20Lakhs). We off-road monthly with various 4x4s.
Anyone interested in 4x4 Driving post up.

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rahul_intlad · 21st February 2007, 23:31

I think the question has become all the more relevant today[year 2007] not a single manufacturer is giving a serious thought for 4X4's in the mainstream segment,and with rising fuel prices[ok they seem to be falling too now],soft-roaders,crossovers,van like Mpv's being the order of the day we may never get a real 4X4 in the near future atleast.

PS: Nice pics GTO.

rahul_intlad · 3rd March 2007, 15:17

Just stumbled across this:

Thanks to license-building and/or bankruptcy-driven tooling sell-offs, plenty of vehicles have continued to roll off assembly lines overseas for decades after being phased out in their country of origin. You gotcher Mexican Borgwards and yer Argentinian Ramblers and so on. But how about Indian Jeeps? The Mahindra & Mahindra company got its start importing unassembled Willys Jeeps and putting them together, and by 1954 M&M had a deal with Willys Overland to license-build the CJ-3B in India. Peugeot-engined Mahindra Jeeps were still being made in India as recently as the early 90s, though models equipped with the optional Rocket Launcher Package are getting hard to find these days. – Murilee Martin

Source:
Only In A Mahindra Jeep - Jalopnik

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The mahindra jeep

Mahindra Jeeps on The CJ3B Page

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Mahindra jeeps-Products Main

sabret00the · 23rd July 2007, 00:33

sorry for digging up old dust but I guess the answer to what is being discussed here is the Mahindra Legend...if anybody happens to know more about the Legend then please reply here

Monster_BHP · 24th July 2007, 00:38

How come i missed this thread!

Man i have been waiting for this true off roader for donkey years. There ain't a relay worthy off roader out there. I could buy the Bolero but at 65Bhp its a disgrace to be called a worthy off roader.

The only option I was having on my mind is to get a used Mahindra Marshal and add a 2ltr turbo diesel Isuzu Engine+gear box and power steering with AC etc., But i don't know if the 4wd gear box can be matched with the Isuzu gear box and ratio?! If all is done well it would be a good 4x4.

I feel the same, i just want to get off and get going, just me and my jeep and the great out doors.

Please if any one know if this type of Jeep alteration can be done reliably please let me know.

Thanks

anandpadhye · 24th July 2007, 11:06

Is the new Grand Vitara not a true 4x4?
Of course it's ~14 Lacks but still...

GTO · 24th July 2007, 11:19

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Originally Posted by anandpadhye

Is the new Grand Vitara not a true 4x4?
Of course it's ~14 Lacks but still...

Nope, its still a soft-roader. A low ratio does not a 4x4 make.

anandpadhye · 24th July 2007, 11:43

What about lockable central differential?

rhandle · 24th July 2007, 16:15

How about Gurkha? anything better than that?

11th April 2005, 17:56	#32
man23ish BHPian Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 626 Thanked: 18 Times	Nice Poetry Zaphod, By-the-way, have you tried the Mahindra Bolero Invader with 4x4 and a DI engine.. That one looks like it fits your definition nicely.. Cheers, Manish.
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9th December 2005, 10:39	#33
ex670c Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Chennai Posts: 2,470 Thanked: 1,937 Times View My Garage	THE REAL 4X4s are here - ALL-INDIA 4x4 MEET in Bangalore Hello Folks, The only real 4x4 were the Mahindra JEEPs. To learn more about JEEPs and JEEPing (off-roading) checkout 1- http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/jeep_thrills/ 2- http://arkapravasphotos.fotopic.net/ 3- http://jeepthrills.in/community/ The 4x4 Meet is scheduled for Mid-end April in Bangalore. Keepin' Jeepin' Arka
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9th December 2005, 10:49	#34
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Tata launched its 4x4 last day or so. http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/indian...truck-sut.html Last edited by jkdas : 9th December 2005 at 10:53.
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9th December 2005, 12:35	#35
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	You are right, the true 4x4 is missing. The only 4x4 I have ever driven is the Gypsy King (Carburetted). It was a real blast. I have driven on half dry riverbeds, on mountainsides, slush etc., etc., I dont know if mahindra 4x4 are as good. Gypsy has one thing going for it, light weight. So its almost impossible to get stuck. In the non sarding range, I wonder how will the base safari 4x4 do? But that will come to the 8.5-9L range Another vehicle is the Tata SuT 4x4 Double cab, but you can seat just 5 people comfortably.
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21st February 2007, 23:31	#38
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,579 Thanked: 4 Times	I think the question has become all the more relevant today[year 2007] not a single manufacturer is giving a serious thought for 4X4's in the mainstream segment,and with rising fuel prices[ok they seem to be falling too now],soft-roaders,crossovers,van like Mpv's being the order of the day we may never get a real 4X4 in the near future atleast. PS: Nice pics GTO. Last edited by rahul_intlad : 21st February 2007 at 23:41.
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3rd March 2007, 15:17	#39
rahul_intlad Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Pune Posts: 1,579 Thanked: 4 Times	Just stumbled across this: Thanks to license-building and/or bankruptcy-driven tooling sell-offs, plenty of vehicles have continued to roll off assembly lines overseas for decades after being phased out in their country of origin. You gotcher Mexican Borgwards and yer Argentinian Ramblers and so on. But how about Indian Jeeps? The Mahindra & Mahindra company got its start importing unassembled Willys Jeeps and putting them together, and by 1954 M&M had a deal with Willys Overland to license-build the CJ-3B in India. Peugeot-engined Mahindra Jeeps were still being made in India as recently as the early 90s, though models equipped with the optional Rocket Launcher Package are getting hard to find these days. – Murilee Martin Source: Only In A Mahindra Jeep - Jalopnik ****************************** The mahindra jeep Mahindra Jeeps on The CJ3B Page ****************************** Mahindra jeeps-Products Main
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23rd July 2007, 00:33	#40
sabret00the BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: YYC \| BLR \| CCU Posts: 692 Thanked: 55 Times View My Garage	sorry for digging up old dust but I guess the answer to what is being discussed here is the Mahindra Legend...if anybody happens to know more about the Legend then please reply here
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24th July 2007, 00:38	#41
Monster_BHP BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: chennai Posts: 190 Thanked: 30 Times View My Garage	How come i missed this thread! Man i have been waiting for this true off roader for donkey years. There ain't a relay worthy off roader out there. I could buy the Bolero but at 65Bhp its a disgrace to be called a worthy off roader. The only option I was having on my mind is to get a used Mahindra Marshal and add a 2ltr turbo diesel Isuzu Engine+gear box and power steering with AC etc., But i don't know if the 4wd gear box can be matched with the Isuzu gear box and ratio?! If all is done well it would be a good 4x4. I feel the same, i just want to get off and get going, just me and my jeep and the great out doors. Please if any one know if this type of Jeep alteration can be done reliably please let me know. Thanks
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24th July 2007, 11:06	#42
anandpadhye Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 3,054 Thanked: 3,313 Times	Is the new Grand Vitara not a true 4x4? Of course it's ~14 Lacks but still...
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24th July 2007, 11:43	#44
anandpadhye Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Pune Posts: 3,054 Thanked: 3,313 Times	What about lockable central differential?
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24th July 2007, 16:15	#45
rhandle BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Ghaziabad Posts: 549 Thanked: 117 Times	How about Gurkha? anything better than that?
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