1942 Model Willys MB

desertfox · 17th March 2009, 20:11

Here are some pics to share with all BHPians of a 1942 model Willys MB fully restored in Dubai.

This Jeep is a property of a partner of Al Futtaim Motors and was displayed in the Festival City showroom of Jeep, ( Trading Enterprises ) Al Futtaim Group.

The showroom manager David Firth was a great help and allowed me to take these pictures.

trammway · 17th March 2009, 21:49

I think the letter says lots of false statement. 1st the picture is CJ2A model's, the Civilian Jeep. Which is out in 1949 onwards...

Second they claim it is one of the ten available in the world.. Nope not at all.

Nitin · 17th March 2009, 23:27

I'm not too sure about the claims, but I love the work done on the Jeep. Immaculate,if you will.

PAVAN KADAM · 17th March 2009, 23:40

Neat shiny restoration.

Few bits that dont belong and missing.
1) Gun rack missing
2) Extra meter on the dashboard does not belong there
3) One data plate missing
4) Windshield wipers missing.
5) Windhield mounted wrongly
6) Lot many other fittings missing.

all in all a neat looking jeep.

Parm · 18th March 2009, 01:42

the photo of the jeep on the letter doesnt matches the actual jeep on display.

the spare is on the side in the letter and on the display jeep its at the rear!

fazalaliadil · 18th March 2009, 13:53

It is a tall, false claim that this is one of the ten in the world, PERIOD!
The Shiek should come to Hyderabad and see more than 20 in better condition, it could be possible for the colour to be original (my doubts there)..... but the tyres original???? 1942-2009= 67 years. They would be stone hard (un-inflateable) or shreds by now.
No offence, Ya Shiek!

Parm · 18th March 2009, 14:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazalaliadil

It is a tall, false claim that this is one of the ten in the world, PERIOD!
The Shiek should come to Hyderabad and see more than 20 in better condition, it could be possible for the colour to be original (my doubts there)..... but the tyres original???? 1942-2009= 67 years. They would be stone hard (un-inflateable) or shreds by now.
No offence, Ya Shiek!

+1 for that reply. my vote is with Fazal on this topic.

Tusker4x4 · 18th March 2009, 16:25

Hi Shahid,

U did see the MB and GPW in action in the 14th March OTR.

Our very own MOD Rabindra Singh (MOD RBS) and MOD Sarvinder Singh (MOD SSS/ Willys MB- in TBHP) have GPW/MB

even MOD Laxman (MOD SLS) has an MB.

All the parts in the above two are original. Further they do active hardcore offroading. Not framed for display.

Infact there was a Willys & Ford rally in Jaipur around october or November, MOD SSS got the 2nd prize in that.

That was a treat to watch as there were numerous GPW/MBs/CJs there.

Regds

Amit

PAVAN KADAM · 18th March 2009, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazalaliadil

It is a tall, false claim that this is one of the ten in the world, PERIOD!
The Shiek should come to Hyderabad and see more than 20 in better condition, it could be possible for the colour to be original (my doubts there)..... but the tyres original???? 1942-2009= 67 years. They would be stone hard (un-inflateable) or shreds by now.
No offence, Ya Shiek!

you beat me on this kind of reply. With you Fazal.

BTW those tyres might be stuffed, just like those stuffed toys and wild animals.

Tusker4x4 · 18th March 2009, 16:48

Even Better - Action Pics of GPW & MB of MOD RBS & MOD SSS

MOD RBS in action

1942 Model Willys MB-dsc08036-mod-rbs.jpg

MOD SSS/ Willy MB (TBHP) in action

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Both togather

1942 Model Willys MB-dsc08039-mods-togather.jpg

willys MB · 18th March 2009, 17:37

Dear Shahid,

There is nothing great about the so called Willys MB shown in the pictures. There may be many mre flaws but what ever i could make out in one glance are as follows :-

1) The jeep shown on Paper is a CJ2A.
2) The Jeep shown in the above picture, the following parts are not of willys MB

a) The wind shield is of CJ2A
b) Wrong tail lights.
c) No pin tail hook.
d) No black out light on driver side fender.
e) No plug socket on the rear for trailer connection.
f) No Rear Grab handles.
g) No Bumperettes
h) Silencer exhaust at wrong place.

Cheers

Sarvinder

hillram · 18th March 2009, 17:54

whats the criteria to have winches for jeeps?

desertfox · 18th March 2009, 18:40

Hi Sarvinder,

I saw your Willys MB and Rabindras GPW in action. yes they are original restorations. We can do it better in India

In all probability this guy from the Al Attar family has restored a vehicle with CJ2A and Willys MB parts combined.

I dont care much about the authenticity of that letter, nor do I believe the claims that sales proceeds from an old Jeep can finance a wedding. All loose rubbish.

Only 10 of its kind - In Mayapuri alone there would be more than ten of each kind!

Also I do not believe that the rubber hoses, battery and tyres are from 1942. I am highly doubdful about the paint and wiring as well.

I posted it out of mere interest to share it with Team BHP.

He is a collector, and a nut. He has a showroom in the heart of Dubai, full of vintage cars, not for sale but display in what would be prime retail space. Also he has decided not to set foot on land. He has a helipad in Al Attar Tower and travels in a private helicopter. I guess he goes to only buildings that may have heipads. Absolutely crazy fellow. He is not a Sheikh but a business family of Dubai of Irani origins who migrated to Dubai in 1930s, so did the family of Al Futtaim.

desertfox · 18th March 2009, 18:49

But out of interest, I would be most interested to know the differences between WIllys CJ2A and Willys MB.

I have posted pictures of both these Jeeps here.

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17th March 2009, 20:11	#1
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 648 Times	1942 Model Willys MB Here are some pics to share with all BHPians of a 1942 model Willys MB fully restored in Dubai. This Jeep is a property of a partner of Al Futtaim Motors and was displayed in the Festival City showroom of Jeep, ( Trading Enterprises ) Al Futtaim Group. The showroom manager David Firth was a great help and allowed me to take these pictures. Attached Thumbnails Last edited by desertfox : 17th March 2009 at 20:15.
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trammway Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bridgewater USA Posts: 1,150 Thanked: 475 Times View My Garage	I think the letter says lots of false statement. 1st the picture is CJ2A model's, the Civilian Jeep. Which is out in 1949 onwards... Second they claim it is one of the ten available in the world.. Nope not at all.
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17th March 2009, 23:27	#3
Nitin Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 3,294 Thanked: 20 Times View My Garage	I'm not too sure about the claims, but I love the work done on the Jeep. Immaculate,if you will.
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PAVAN KADAM BANNED Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: NAMMA BENGALURU Posts: 5,602 Thanked: 2,549 Times	Neat shiny restoration. Few bits that dont belong and missing. 1) Gun rack missing 2) Extra meter on the dashboard does not belong there 3) One data plate missing 4) Windshield wipers missing. 5) Windhield mounted wrongly 6) Lot many other fittings missing. all in all a neat looking jeep.
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18th March 2009, 01:42	#5
Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 890 Times	the photo of the jeep on the letter doesnt matches the actual jeep on display. the spare is on the side in the letter and on the display jeep its at the rear!
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18th March 2009, 13:53	#6
fazalaliadil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,022 Thanked: 671 Times View My Garage	It is a tall, false claim that this is one of the ten in the world, PERIOD! The Shiek should come to Hyderabad and see more than 20 in better condition, it could be possible for the colour to be original (my doubts there)..... but the tyres original???? 1942-2009= 67 years. They would be stone hard (un-inflateable) or shreds by now. No offence, Ya Shiek!
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18th March 2009, 16:25	#8
Tusker4x4 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New delhi Posts: 190 Thanked: 3 Times	Hi Shahid, U did see the MB and GPW in action in the 14th March OTR. Our very own MOD Rabindra Singh (MOD RBS) and MOD Sarvinder Singh (MOD SSS/ Willys MB- in TBHP) have GPW/MB even MOD Laxman (MOD SLS) has an MB. All the parts in the above two are original. Further they do active hardcore offroading. Not framed for display. Infact there was a Willys & Ford rally in Jaipur around october or November, MOD SSS got the 2nd prize in that. That was a treat to watch as there were numerous GPW/MBs/CJs there. Regds Amit
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18th March 2009, 16:48	#10
Tusker4x4 BHPian Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New delhi Posts: 190 Thanked: 3 Times	Even Better - Action Pics of GPW & MB of MOD RBS & MOD SSS MOD RBS in action MOD SSS/ Willy MB (TBHP) in action Both togather Last edited by Tusker4x4 : 18th March 2009 at 16:53.
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18th March 2009, 17:37	#11
willys MB BHPian Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Gurgaon Posts: 76 Thanked: 16 Times	Dear Shahid, There is nothing great about the so called Willys MB shown in the pictures. There may be many mre flaws but what ever i could make out in one glance are as follows :- 1) The jeep shown on Paper is a CJ2A. 2) The Jeep shown in the above picture, the following parts are not of willys MB a) The wind shield is of CJ2A b) Wrong tail lights. c) No pin tail hook. d) No black out light on driver side fender. e) No plug socket on the rear for trailer connection. f) No Rear Grab handles. g) No Bumperettes h) Silencer exhaust at wrong place. Cheers Sarvinder
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18th March 2009, 17:54	#12
hillram Senior - BHPian Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,942 Thanked: 1,326 Times View My Garage	whats the criteria to have winches for jeeps?
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18th March 2009, 18:40	#13
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 648 Times	Hi Sarvinder, I saw your Willys MB and Rabindras GPW in action. yes they are original restorations. We can do it better in India In all probability this guy from the Al Attar family has restored a vehicle with CJ2A and Willys MB parts combined. I dont care much about the authenticity of that letter, nor do I believe the claims that sales proceeds from an old Jeep can finance a wedding. All loose rubbish. Only 10 of its kind - In Mayapuri alone there would be more than ten of each kind! Also I do not believe that the rubber hoses, battery and tyres are from 1942. I am highly doubdful about the paint and wiring as well. I posted it out of mere interest to share it with Team BHP. He is a collector, and a nut. He has a showroom in the heart of Dubai, full of vintage cars, not for sale but display in what would be prime retail space. Also he has decided not to set foot on land. He has a helipad in Al Attar Tower and travels in a private helicopter. I guess he goes to only buildings that may have heipads. Absolutely crazy fellow. He is not a Sheikh but a business family of Dubai of Irani origins who migrated to Dubai in 1930s, so did the family of Al Futtaim. Last edited by desertfox : 18th March 2009 at 18:46.
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18th March 2009, 18:49	#14
desertfox Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Gurgaon, Delhi NCR Posts: 1,270 Thanked: 648 Times	But out of interest, I would be most interested to know the differences between WIllys CJ2A and Willys MB. I have posted pictures of both these Jeeps here. The Gun Geek - JEEP HISTORY
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