My Heart says JEEP, Mind says GYPSY!

Parm · 16th April 2009, 19:40

the question is "to be or not to be"!

my heart is stuck on JEEP, because its classic, because its heritage, because its nostalgia, because its a cult, because its a JEEP!

my mind says GYPSY, because its petrol engine (less maintaince than diesel jeep, less noise than diesel), comes from trusted brand of Maruti, full back up service, fully functional offroader, easy maintaince, no need to built it from scrap, less visits to the workshop unlike jeep, etc

MM JEEP (Beast) says follow your heart!

MG413 (Beauty) says follow your mind!

the Beauty and the Beast are confusing me!

akshay4587 · 16th April 2009, 20:07

Go for Gypsy Parm
diesel is for tractors

sorry coudnt resist

bigman · 16th April 2009, 20:43

Go for a diesel, petrol engines are for Maruti 800s.

Kushagr · 16th April 2009, 20:47

Pram, I passed through the same dilemma and chose the Gypsy.

Yes the Jeep has a cult but Offroading or 4x4 cult also has its calling and the Gypsy fits right in.

akshay4587 · 16th April 2009, 21:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by bigman

Go for a diesel, petrol engines are for Maruti 800s.

but our man thinks other way round

AFAIK this has been discussed a lot of times.
and both of these machines are quite capable off the road.
one thing gypsy scores is on its free revving nature,and loses on low end grunt,vice-versa for the jeep.

so think over your requirements and then decide.

headers · 16th April 2009, 21:00

Each of them have their own characteristics. Both are equally good off roaders. A jeep or a gypsy done up sensibly will be a great vehicle to own as well as give you a good time off road.

It is not true that Diesel engines are more noisy or maintenance prone and Petrol engines are great. Also the service of both the vehicles are a pain if the mechanic does not understand your needs and off roading!

Ofcourse a Jeep is more wallet friendly than a gypsy when it comes to a full tank!!

And the gypsy is more rev friendly than a Diesel Jeep!

simply_sunny001 · 16th April 2009, 21:09

you can get diesel anywhere as compared to petrol.

And if you take good care of a jeep and pend to make it reliable,it will be reliable.

it will be the way you want it,thats the way it is.

And read in some other thread that Mahindra is coming up with something so try to get more info in that also.

starter · 16th April 2009, 21:22

Dear Parm,
A thread that i was planning to start from a couple of months.
You've said it all buddy. I am in exactly the same state of mind now.
If you are looking at buying one of these from the showroom, it is worth waiting for a couple of months. There are some rumours in the air that mahindra would be launching something new.
Another few reasons for confusion:
If in case we realize that soft top is not practical all the time, it is easy to switch a Gypsy from soft top to hard top and vice versa quite easily.
Another one, i am not sure how possible it is to take a Jeep on a long drive.
Hope, this thread helps us resolve our confusion.
Cheers,
Deepak

4x4addict · 16th April 2009, 21:46

My only reservation about the Gypsy is that being petrol, it is more expensive to operate than diesel jeeps. So if you don't mind the added fuel bills, I think it makes a great off-road vehicle.

DesertKing · 16th April 2009, 22:25

Parm, that is a valid point you have raised.

My simple answer is that if you really want to do some very tuff off roading and need a lot of articulation that MM5x0 is the best bet... if you are the one who like speed drives on off roads like rally drivers than Gypsy is the best one.

Mr. Khan Sulatan may not be agree with me but he would be agree that one should hear his heart voice or else there are a lot more vehicle in the que....

(sorry, this time Parm has initiated this debate).

Both the vehicles are excellent and can defeate each other in different tarrain. You have to decide yourself only.

Offroading is I guess allways related to heart rather than mind (it is a task of crazy guys). so it is upto you, if you want to be a decent off roader or a crazy one... choice is yours.

condor · 16th April 2009, 22:40

Quote:

Kushagr

: Pram, I passed through the same dilemma and chose the Gypsy.

Anything available still ? Looking out for one for a friend, here in BLR.

vinod_nookala · 16th April 2009, 23:00

i was in this classic situation long time back- head said Gypsy, heart said Jeep, head +heart said MM540- went for it

Love spending time in garages= old jeep!
No time, only week end drive= Gypsy!
Grunt= jeep
Refinement=Gypsy
Only vehicle @home=Gypsy
Second vehicle= Jeep

Regards
Vinod

Spitfire · 16th April 2009, 23:00

Consider another thing.

With a Gypsy you will be able to drive over to a Service Center and get repairs or modifications done.

With out of production Mahindra's you will struggle to get a right garage. But then they are so simple to work on that you really can do with most of the garages.

But factory support Gypsy wins.

garry.brant · 16th April 2009, 23:18

I was in the same situation , when i decided to listen to my heart and buy a Fiat Plaio 1.9 diesel and all i have done is regreting the decision. At that time if i would have bought a zen or esteem i would have saved a huge amount of money.
Always and always listen to the mind as it looks on pros and cons , and believe Gypsy would serve you good while going offroads and the service , no need to tell would be amazing .
Decide now, just to feed your heart are you ready to spend money now and again and again and again(by that i mean maintenance) ot invest in Gypsi for once and for all.
Gypsi is what i would suggest although you are the decider so think and go with it.

bigman · 16th April 2009, 23:20

Spitfire has made some strong points in favour of a Gypsy. Army disposal MM550's are easy enough to buy but getting them restored is a complete pain in the behind. From my MM550 rebuild nothing is ever done to a deadline and simple engine rebuilds take weeks. XD3P spares are readily available but other parts can take weeks to acquire. Took 6 weeks to get a new screen and still waiting for other bits and pieces.

If you want an easy life then opt for a working Gypsy. If you like rebuilds and sitting at workshops to oversee things then get a Jeep.

16th April 2009, 19:40	#1
Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 890 Times	My Heart says JEEP, Mind says GYPSY! the question is "to be or not to be"! my heart is stuck on JEEP, because its classic, because its heritage, because its nostalgia, because its a cult, because its a JEEP! my mind says GYPSY, because its petrol engine (less maintaince than diesel jeep, less noise than diesel), comes from trusted brand of Maruti, full back up service, fully functional offroader, easy maintaince, no need to built it from scrap, less visits to the workshop unlike jeep, etc MM JEEP (Beast) says follow your heart! MG413 (Beauty) says follow your mind! the Beauty and the Beast are confusing me!
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16th April 2009, 20:07	#2
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,151 Thanked: 4,525 Times View My Garage	Go for Gypsy Parm diesel is for tractors sorry coudnt resist
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16th April 2009, 20:43	#3
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Go for a diesel, petrol engines are for Maruti 800s.
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16th April 2009, 20:47	#4
Kushagr Newbie Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bangalore Posts: 16 Thanked: Once	Pram, I passed through the same dilemma and chose the Gypsy. Yes the Jeep has a cult but Offroading or 4x4 cult also has its calling and the Gypsy fits right in.
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16th April 2009, 21:00	#6
headers Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Greater Chennai Posts: 4,667 Thanked: 559 Times	Each of them have their own characteristics. Both are equally good off roaders. A jeep or a gypsy done up sensibly will be a great vehicle to own as well as give you a good time off road. It is not true that Diesel engines are more noisy or maintenance prone and Petrol engines are great. Also the service of both the vehicles are a pain if the mechanic does not understand your needs and off roading! Ofcourse a Jeep is more wallet friendly than a gypsy when it comes to a full tank!! And the gypsy is more rev friendly than a Diesel Jeep!
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16th April 2009, 21:09	#7
simply_sunny001 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: London & Rohtak Posts: 1,340 Thanked: 18 Times View My Garage	you can get diesel anywhere as compared to petrol. And if you take good care of a jeep and pend to make it reliable,it will be reliable. it will be the way you want it,thats the way it is. And read in some other thread that Mahindra is coming up with something so try to get more info in that also.
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16th April 2009, 21:22	#8
starter Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,127 Thanked: 903 Times	Dear Parm, A thread that i was planning to start from a couple of months. You've said it all buddy. I am in exactly the same state of mind now. If you are looking at buying one of these from the showroom, it is worth waiting for a couple of months. There are some rumours in the air that mahindra would be launching something new. Another few reasons for confusion: If in case we realize that soft top is not practical all the time, it is easy to switch a Gypsy from soft top to hard top and vice versa quite easily. Another one, i am not sure how possible it is to take a Jeep on a long drive. Hope, this thread helps us resolve our confusion. Cheers, Deepak Last edited by starter : 16th April 2009 at 21:23.
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4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,483 Thanked: 4,529 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	My only reservation about the Gypsy is that being petrol, it is more expensive to operate than diesel jeeps. So if you don't mind the added fuel bills, I think it makes a great off-road vehicle.
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16th April 2009, 22:25	#10
DesertKing BHPian Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Jodhpur, Rajasthan Posts: 463 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	Parm, that is a valid point you have raised. My simple answer is that if you really want to do some very tuff off roading and need a lot of articulation that MM5x0 is the best bet... if you are the one who like speed drives on off roads like rally drivers than Gypsy is the best one. Mr. Khan Sulatan may not be agree with me but he would be agree that one should hear his heart voice or else there are a lot more vehicle in the que.... (sorry, this time Parm has initiated this debate). Both the vehicles are excellent and can defeate each other in different tarrain. You have to decide yourself only. Offroading is I guess allways related to heart rather than mind (it is a task of crazy guys). so it is upto you, if you want to be a decent off roader or a crazy one... choice is yours.
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16th April 2009, 23:00	#12
vinod_nookala Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,737 Thanked: 430 Times View My Garage	Jeep or a Gypsy i was in this classic situation long time back- head said Gypsy, heart said Jeep, head +heart said MM540- went for it Love spending time in garages= old jeep! No time, only week end drive= Gypsy! Grunt= jeep Refinement=Gypsy Only vehicle @home=Gypsy Second vehicle= Jeep Regards Vinod
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Spitfire BANNED Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Panaji - Goa/Bangalore - Karnataka Posts: 3,312 Thanked: 774 Times	Consider another thing. With a Gypsy you will be able to drive over to a Service Center and get repairs or modifications done. With out of production Mahindra's you will struggle to get a right garage. But then they are so simple to work on that you really can do with most of the garages. But factory support Gypsy wins.
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16th April 2009, 23:18	#14
garry.brant BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Gurgaon, Haryana Posts: 291 Thanked: 24 Times View My Garage	I was in the same situation , when i decided to listen to my heart and buy a Fiat Plaio 1.9 diesel and all i have done is regreting the decision. At that time if i would have bought a zen or esteem i would have saved a huge amount of money. Always and always listen to the mind as it looks on pros and cons , and believe Gypsy would serve you good while going offroads and the service , no need to tell would be amazing . Decide now, just to feed your heart are you ready to spend money now and again and again and again(by that i mean maintenance) ot invest in Gypsi for once and for all. Gypsi is what i would suggest although you are the decider so think and go with it.
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16th April 2009, 23:20	#15
bigman Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: NA Posts: 1,224 Thanked: 93 Times	Spitfire has made some strong points in favour of a Gypsy. Army disposal MM550's are easy enough to buy but getting them restored is a complete pain in the behind. From my MM550 rebuild nothing is ever done to a deadline and simple engine rebuilds take weeks. XD3P spares are readily available but other parts can take weeks to acquire. Took 6 weeks to get a new screen and still waiting for other bits and pieces. If you want an easy life then opt for a working Gypsy. If you like rebuilds and sitting at workshops to oversee things then get a Jeep. Last edited by bigman : 16th April 2009 at 23:22.
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