Mahindra Scorpio 4WD

livyodream · 15th January 2010, 18:16

Thses participated in Coorg OTR. 2 of em broke in the middle and the 3rd one backed out. Heard that 4wd failed or soemthing like that.

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Looks awesome isnt it

raj_5004 · 15th January 2010, 19:47

yea looks awesome.

but "two broke & 1 backed out" doesnt sound awesome! bad news.

4x4addict · 15th January 2010, 21:41

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Originally Posted by raj_5004

yea looks awesome.

but "two broke & 1 backed out" doesnt sound awesome! bad news.

Apparently the 4WD system got stuck for these two vehicles. Anup has been using his 4WD without any problems for a number of years. The key is to engage it at least once every week or two. Secondly before you leave the clutch make sure that the low range light is not blinking (i.e don't take off whe the mechanism is still engaging low range, this can result in the motor getting stuck). Thirdly if you are fording water, better to put in 4L before going into the water to prevent operating the electric motor under water.

This is precisely why I hate electric transfer cases. Unfortunately with the Scorpio/Safari there is no choice. Thankfully the Thar is coming with a mechanical transfer case.

pramods · 16th January 2010, 02:11

Does this mean just checking the 4H, 4L by engaging and releasing them by reversing or need to drive for some distance ?

Pramod

arjunrudra · 16th January 2010, 07:38

WoW those scorpios look really cool .
Anything modified on them except for the snorkel and the tyres ?

4x4addict · 16th January 2010, 08:32

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Originally Posted by pramods

Does this mean just checking the 4H, 4L by engaging and releasing them by reversing or need to drive for some distance ?

Pramod

Pramod:

Just engage both 4H and 4L just drive a few meters and disengage. Do this once every couple of weeks atleast. Secondly when you are putting into 4L wait for the light to stop blinking before you give power to the transmission.

@arjun:

The Scorpio atleast the one in front seems to have a lift as well. notice it is taller than the one behind.

tanwaramit · 18th January 2010, 12:36

thats sad to see the 4WD scorpio getting stuck on not so tough terrain. I guess, it should have come out of that dig.

4x4addict, were these the cases with the 4WD failure on these scorpios OR there was something else ?

adzegeek · 19th January 2010, 10:51

4x4addict, help needed

In the morning, I was taking my 1 year old kid for a bit of up and down on a hill top.

at the top of the hillock before descending I stopped the scorp, pressed the clutch - shifted from 2wd to 4L. from what I know, the 4H indicator should come on and blink for 6 seconds and then go off and then the indicator for 4WD low should start glowing. There is no blinking - the 4H indicator comes on, goes away and then 4WD low starts glowing. On descending with 4Lo, 1st gear, engine braking assists you in crawling down without burning brakes.

This non-blinking part - is that a problem? Also I noticed that there is no documentation describing shifting from 2H to 4L in user manual.

tsk1979 · 19th January 2010, 11:32

the 4H indicator does not blink in the safari. Since the scorpio also uses a borg warner system, and its shift on the fly like the safari, it won't blink. Its the 4L which blinks.
So for 4H, its shift on the fly. For 4L, you shift to 4L, wait for 5-6 seconds, and then march

4x4addict · 19th January 2010, 12:46

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Originally Posted by tanwaramit

thats sad to see the 4WD scorpio getting stuck on not so tough terrain.

From what I was told, the the problem was the 4WD system got stuck and 4x4 couldn't be engaged and one of the scorpios had a clutch burn out or something like that. It was more to do with mechanical failure than the terrain. The refreshed 4x4 Scorpio that took part in the Road and Track Munnar event did the whole course along with the jeeps/gypsies. The biggest flaw of the Scorpio 4x4 is the electrical transfer case which could fail due to some electrical contact issues, motor failure, motor getting stuck etc..

These problems don't exist for mechanical transfer cases.

@adzegeek:

blinking is for low range. 4H is shift on the fly so no need to wait. can be done while moving.

Spinnerr · 26th January 2010, 22:58

Chk out the ARB kind of bumpers on a Scorpio (exp stuff)

The one of the right.

Source: Mahindra's Flicker Stream

4x4addict · 21st February 2010, 12:48

Took delivery of my Scorpio 4WD last Friday in Kottayam and drove it to chennai yesterday. With the drive to chennai and some local driving in kottayam, I managed to complete the 1000 km running period in two days. I have been keeping it under 100 kmph for the run in period. I am dying to put pedal to metal but I think I will drive sedately for another 1500 kms. Will post an ownership report after I have clocked some miles.

SS-Traveller · 21st February 2010, 13:14

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Took delivery of my Scorpio 4WD last Friday in Kottayam and drove it to chennai yesterday.
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Will post an ownership report after I have clocked some miles.

Congratulations on your new acquisition! Look forward to an insightful ownership thread.

vijaythacker · 21st February 2010, 14:50

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Took delivery of my Scorpio 4WD last Friday in Kottayam and drove it to chennai yesterday. With the drive to chennai and some local driving in kottayam, I managed to complete the 1000 km running period in two days. I have been keeping it under 100 kmph for the run in period. I am dying to put pedal to metal but I think I will drive sedately for another 1500 kms. Will post an ownership report after I have clocked some miles.

congratulations on your new ownership.Wow thats some driving of 1000kms in two days flat.Take it with ease sir.

vinod_nookala · 22nd February 2010, 10:10

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Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Took delivery of my Scorpio 4WD last Friday in Kottayam and drove it to chennai yesterday. With the drive to chennai and some local driving in kottayam, I managed to complete the 1000 km running period in two days. I have been keeping it under 100 kmph for the run in period. I am dying to put pedal to metal but I think I will drive sedately for another 1500 kms. Will post an ownership report after I have clocked some miles.

Congratulations Tini!!! Finally a long-termer SUV in your stable. Please post pics of your 4wd.

So what next on it?-
ARB bumpers ?
LSD?
winch?
AT tyres?
Expedition roof rack?

Well i don't mind all this but don't surrender it to garage for long time again

Lets meet up- Would like to see your jeep in person as well. Is the P.S and axle conversion over?

15th January 2010, 18:16	#106
livyodream BHPian Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: blr-manipal Posts: 557 Thanked: 152 Times	Thses participated in Coorg OTR. 2 of em broke in the middle and the 3rd one backed out. Heard that 4wd failed or soemthing like that. Looks awesome isnt it
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15th January 2010, 19:47	#107
raj_5004 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Dubai/Mumbai Posts: 5,238 Thanked: 3,139 Times	yea looks awesome. but "two broke & 1 backed out" doesnt sound awesome! bad news.
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16th January 2010, 02:11	#109
pramods BHPian Join Date: May 2005 Location: Nagpur Posts: 980 Thanked: 819 Times	Does this mean just checking the 4H, 4L by engaging and releasing them by reversing or need to drive for some distance ? Pramod
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16th January 2010, 07:38	#110
arjunrudra Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Gurgaon/Chennai Posts: 1,577 Thanked: 197 Times View My Garage	WoW those scorpios look really cool . Anything modified on them except for the snorkel and the tyres ?
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18th January 2010, 12:36	#112
tanwaramit Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Dilwalon ki Dilli Posts: 1,930 Thanked: 497 Times	thats sad to see the 4WD scorpio getting stuck on not so tough terrain. I guess, it should have come out of that dig. 4x4addict, were these the cases with the 4WD failure on these scorpios OR there was something else ?
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19th January 2010, 10:51	#113
adzegeek BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Special admin z Posts: 284 Thanked: 29 Times	4x4addict, help needed In the morning, I was taking my 1 year old kid for a bit of up and down on a hill top. at the top of the hillock before descending I stopped the scorp, pressed the clutch - shifted from 2wd to 4L. from what I know, the 4H indicator should come on and blink for 6 seconds and then go off and then the indicator for 4WD low should start glowing. There is no blinking - the 4H indicator comes on, goes away and then 4WD low starts glowing. On descending with 4Lo, 1st gear, engine braking assists you in crawling down without burning brakes. This non-blinking part - is that a problem? Also I noticed that there is no documentation describing shifting from 2H to 4L in user manual.
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19th January 2010, 11:32	#114
tsk1979 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 23,717 Thanked: 22,825 Times View My Garage	the 4H indicator does not blink in the safari. Since the scorpio also uses a borg warner system, and its shift on the fly like the safari, it won't blink. Its the 4L which blinks. So for 4H, its shift on the fly. For 4L, you shift to 4L, wait for 5-6 seconds, and then march
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26th January 2010, 22:58	#116
Spinnerr BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 417 Thanked: 487 Times	Offroad spec bumpers on a scorp (ARB kind) Chk out the ARB kind of bumpers on a Scorpio (exp stuff) The one of the right. Source: Mahindra's Flicker Stream
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21st February 2010, 12:48	#117
4x4addict Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Chennai Posts: 4,483 Thanked: 4,531 Times View My Garage Infractions: 0/1 (5)	Took delivery of my Scorpio 4WD last Friday in Kottayam and drove it to chennai yesterday. With the drive to chennai and some local driving in kottayam, I managed to complete the 1000 km running period in two days. I have been keeping it under 100 kmph for the run in period. I am dying to put pedal to metal but I think I will drive sedately for another 1500 kms. Will post an ownership report after I have clocked some miles.
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