Identifying Gypsy and Mahindra models?

joshguy · 4th July 2009, 19:40

Hi All,

I want to know the various models available in gypsy.I could see 410,413,410W and even 416 in this forum.Also there seems to be different models in Mahindra (550,540 ,440,340 CJB,CBJ ...what not)

Can some body let me know the differences.Am new to 4X4 so am really could not understand any differences.

akshay4587 · 4th July 2009, 19:57

MG410- one with 1.0LTR 45bhp engine-the original gypsy came from 86-93

MG410W-Same 1.0 LTR engine but wider track.

MG413W-Gypsy King with 1.3 LTR engine,launched in late 1996.

MG416-I think gypsies with 1.6L baleno are reffered to as MG416,was never launched by MUL

Parm · 4th July 2009, 21:00

MG413W, what does "W" mean in this one?

when was Maruti Gypsy King 413 MPFI was launched?

akshay4587 · 4th July 2009, 21:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Parm

MG413W, what does "W" mean in this one?

when was Maruti Gypsy King 413 MPFI was launched?

W as in wide track in MG410W

MPFI was launched in Apr 2000 when the whole maruti range switched to MPFI

Parm · 4th July 2009, 21:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay4587

W as in wide track in MG410W

MPFI was launched in Apr 2000 when the whole maruti range switched to MPFI

thanx for the info akshay.

i saw 2002-03 models on sale in carwale.com, thats why i wanted to confirm the correct models.

amit V8 · 5th July 2009, 15:21

ok, for the mahindra models-
MM540-the jeep that looks like the jeep cj5. common with the millitary, police.
MM550-same as MM540 but a little big with a different interior and a better engine. (probably XDP)
MM440-the petrol version of the MM540, fitted with the ISUZU 1.8LTR motor.
CJ/CL340-the indian version of the CJ (civilian jeep) with the peougot 2.1 motor. the one member samurai has.
CL340 Classic-a ltd. edition CL340
CJ-the civilian jeep being produced in USA originally. it had different versions over years like CJ-3B/2A/4/5 and so on. in india the CJ3B is most common as was manufactured by Mahindra.

kavesh55 · 5th July 2009, 15:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit V8

ok, for the mahindra models-
MM540-the jeep that looks like the jeep cj5. common with the millitary, police.
MM550-same as MM540 but a little big with a different interior and a better engine. (probably XDP)
MM440-the petrol version of the MM540, fitted with the ISUZU 1.8LTR motor.
CJ/CL340-the indian version of the CJ (civilian jeep) with the peougot 2.1 motor. the one member samurai has.
CL340 Classic-a ltd. edition CL340
CJ-the civilian jeep being produced in USA originally. it had different versions over years like CJ-3B/2A/4/5 and so on. in india the CJ3B is most common as was manufactured by Mahindra.

Thanks Amit
Its a question I have always queried.
One more which is the 650 & 750 DP
and how much bigger is the mm550

renegade · 5th July 2009, 19:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit V8

ok, for the mahindra models-
MM540-the jeep that looks like the jeep cj5. common with the millitary, police.
MM550-same as MM540 but a little big with a different interior and a better engine. (probably XDP)
MM440-the petrol version of the MM540, fitted with the ISUZU 1.8LTR motor.
CJ/CL340-the indian version of the CJ (civilian jeep) with the peougot 2.1 motor. the one member samurai has.
CL340 Classic-a ltd. edition CL340
CJ-the civilian jeep being produced in USA originally. it had different versions over years like CJ-3B/2A/4/5 and so on. in india the CJ3B is most common as was manufactured by Mahindra.

correction

MM440-petrol version of MM540 with hurricane F-134 (not isuzu).

vishwaschettri · 5th July 2009, 21:22

But wasn't there a version with isuju petrol as well??

Also what engine do the CNG marshals (fatfat seva) in delhi run? Any idea?

cheers

vishwas

akshay4587 · 5th July 2009, 21:38

Yes there was a version with 1800 ISZ engine.

IronWolf · 5th July 2009, 21:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by joshguy

I want to know the various models available in gypsy.I could see 410,413,410W and even 416 in this forum.Also there seems to be different models in Mahindra (550,540 ,440,340 CJB,CBJ ...what not)

Let me try and act as if I know something here.

To begin as already confirmed with there is no MG416 - its just a model concocted by members. Its for a Gypsy with a 1.6 Baleno engine. A pretty mean mix I am led to believe.

CJ/CL340 is (SWB) Short Wheel Base Chassis. CJ was pre 70s and naming convention changed to CL post 70s. Not sure which year exactly.

MM540 - came in both 2WD and 4WD. DP engine which is 2112cc with a 4 speed Gear box.
MM550 - is not bigger, is always a 4WD and has a 2.5L XD3P engine. with a 5 speed Gear box.
MM5x0 are what I personally call RWB (Right Wheel Base)
MM440 - is the same base as the 540 with a Petrol engine. IIRC - Only 4x4versions.

MM650 is (LWB) long chassis (longer than MM540) This also came in 4x4 versions.
MM750 is longer than 650. Pure people movers.

There!

dhrishikesh · 5th July 2009, 22:12

About some Willys Jeeps & Ford GPW's:
1. The jeeps that are pre-1980, are most probably original Willys, but out of them; very few are having original Go-Devil 2112cc (Side Valve) Petrol Engine. Their bonnets used to be engraved with WILLYS or JEEP.
2. For GPW Vehicle means Ford General Purpose War Vehicle, these were also used to have a Go-Devil 2112cc (Side Valve) Petrol Engine. Some of them also used to have Side Valve 2496cc Hurricane engines. Their bonnets & windshield portion below the wipers used to be engraved with FORD.

MexXxentric · 5th July 2009, 22:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay4587

MG410- one with 1.0LTR 45bhp engine-the original gypsy came from 86-93

MG410W-Same 1.0 LTR engine but wider track.

410W lacked hublocks which was std. accessory in MG410.
they continued production up to 1999 but were called Gypsy E( economy model) after the launch of King.

Quote:

Originally Posted by akshay4587

MG413W-Gypsy King with 1.3 LTR engine,launched in late 1996.

This 1.3l engine had carburetter, had a 5 speed GB and shared the very same block of esteem.

in 2000 q1 MPFI Kings were released which had 1.3l mpfi engine

akshay4587 · 5th July 2009, 22:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by MexXxentric

410W lacked hublocks which was std. accessory in MG410.
they continued production up to 1999 but were called Gypsy E( economy model) after the launch of King.

This 1.3l engine had carburetter, had a 5 speed GB and shared the very same block of esteem.

in 2000 q1 MPFI Kings were released which had 1.3l mpfi engine

E denoted eight seater
same was Omni E

renegade · 6th July 2009, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by vishwaschettri

But wasn't there a version with isuju petrol as well??

Also what engine do the CNG marshals (fatfat seva) in delhi run? Any idea?

cheers

vishwas

The 440 came with hurricane only,with KMT 90 gearbox.later mahindra came up with isuzu engine and the model was called mm isz,(Mahindra) try this link and you will get some information on mm isz model,but this is different from mm 440 for sure.

cheers

mandeep

4th July 2009, 19:40	#1
joshguy BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Chennai Posts: 1,379 Thanked: 109 Times	Identifying Gypsy and Mahindra models? Hi All, I want to know the various models available in gypsy.I could see 410,413,410W and even 416 in this forum.Also there seems to be different models in Mahindra (550,540 ,440,340 CJB,CBJ ...what not) Can some body let me know the differences.Am new to 4X4 so am really could not understand any differences.
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4th July 2009, 19:57	#2
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,151 Thanked: 4,525 Times View My Garage	MG410- one with 1.0LTR 45bhp engine-the original gypsy came from 86-93 MG410W-Same 1.0 LTR engine but wider track. MG413W-Gypsy King with 1.3 LTR engine,launched in late 1996. MG416-I think gypsies with 1.6L baleno are reffered to as MG416,was never launched by MUL
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Parm Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: in a Toyota! Posts: 2,753 Thanked: 890 Times	MG413W, what does "W" mean in this one? when was Maruti Gypsy King 413 MPFI was launched?
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amit V8 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: kolkata Posts: 1,070 Thanked: 217 Times	ok, for the mahindra models- MM540-the jeep that looks like the jeep cj5. common with the millitary, police. MM550-same as MM540 but a little big with a different interior and a better engine. (probably XDP) MM440-the petrol version of the MM540, fitted with the ISUZU 1.8LTR motor. CJ/CL340-the indian version of the CJ (civilian jeep) with the peougot 2.1 motor. the one member samurai has. CL340 Classic-a ltd. edition CL340 CJ-the civilian jeep being produced in USA originally. it had different versions over years like CJ-3B/2A/4/5 and so on. in india the CJ3B is most common as was manufactured by Mahindra.
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vishwaschettri BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Delhi Posts: 338 Thanked: 438 Times	But wasn't there a version with isuju petrol as well?? Also what engine do the CNG marshals (fatfat seva) in delhi run? Any idea? cheers vishwas
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5th July 2009, 21:38	#10
akshay4587 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chandigarh/Mohali/Ambala Cantt Posts: 4,151 Thanked: 4,525 Times View My Garage	Yes there was a version with 1800 ISZ engine.
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dhrishikesh BHPian Join Date: May 2009 Location: Mumbai / Pune B Posts: 806 Thanked: 214 Times	About some Willys Jeeps & Ford GPW's: 1. The jeeps that are pre-1980, are most probably original Willys, but out of them; very few are having original Go-Devil 2112cc (Side Valve) Petrol Engine. Their bonnets used to be engraved with WILLYS or JEEP. 2. For GPW Vehicle means Ford General Purpose War Vehicle, these were also used to have a Go-Devil 2112cc (Side Valve) Petrol Engine. Some of them also used to have Side Valve 2496cc Hurricane engines. Their bonnets & windshield portion below the wipers used to be engraved with FORD.
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