An impulsive buy - 1999 Mahindra Classic; Sold and bought back after 10 years!

star_aqua · 9th April 2010, 23:06

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Originally Posted by hgnishanth

+ 1 Santosh please let me know too. Even i want one for my 550.

Nishant, Santosh got it from CAR automobiles. Also available in Prestige.

hgnishanth · 9th April 2010, 23:15

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Originally Posted by star_aqua

Nishant, Santosh got it from CAR automobiles. Also available in Prestige.

Thanks vijay.

@tejas:
Thanks for the cooling system explanation man. Good of you to share the knowledge.

Nishanth

DHABHAR.BEHRAM · 9th April 2010, 23:25

Dear Tejas - cap is correct. Check the vertical dimension of the neck v/s cap. Cap dimension in free condition (not fitted on neck) must be slightly more than neck dimension. The amount of pressing down pre-loads the spring to a set design value, for it to work at correct pressure during running.

Did you change the top hose pipe?

Best regards,

Behram Dhabhar

Tejas@perioimpl · 10th April 2010, 11:09

Not changed the pipe as yet. My regular mech is not in town and didn't want to go to his subordinate.

The cap fits as you said. Will take more pics and post.

Jaggu, if you can't find it, i'll send it from here. But please ask behram what pressure for your hurricane?

Tejas@perioimpl · 17th April 2010, 20:12

Well, another problem was overdue and lo, it happened.

Did the Alibaug OTR last weekend. Everyone must have seen the snaps. The water fording wasn't much either.

Got the car serviced on tuesday and drove it on thursday for a while as well. However, no issue till then.

This evening, tried to crank the jeep but nope nothing happened. Checked other electricals, the lights, etc worked and battery was showing approx 9 volts.
All i was getting was a khrrrrr sound on cranking. Checked for earthing somewhere, removed the deck, etc and tried again but to no avail.

I'm not an electrical guy, so called my regular honda mechanic who's closeby. He saw and said the starter motor is gone. Apparently only the "bandage" is moving. Whatever that means.

Anyways, found out that a new one costs 5500 bucks here. So he's taken this one out and will try to repair it.

Now why did it happen? Any ideas?

Another thing i noticed is that after the last OTR near the sea, the rusting process has accelerated very quickly (especially the air filter cover and the exhaust manifold. even the pulley has rusted). See all the rust in the engine bay area. It wasn't like this before. Any idea how to prevent it for the future? Anything needs to be replaced now?

Red Liner · 17th April 2010, 20:21

Starter Motor: Water gone in and shorted. I am pretty sure your alternator is busted too.

Next time, go easy on the whole water fording thing. Or just be prepared to work on the starter motor and alternator.

Tejas@perioimpl · 17th April 2010, 20:24

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Originally Posted by Red Liner

Starter Motor: Water gone in and shorted. I am pretty sure your alternator is busted too.

Next time, go easy on the whole water fording thing. Or just be prepared to work on the starter motor and alternator.

That was my first thought. But why after a week? Could it be due to water jet while servicing?

Red Liner · 17th April 2010, 20:43

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Originally Posted by Tejas@perioimpl

That was my first thought. But why after a week? Could it be due to water jet while servicing?

Water could have also stayed in and then the inside of your starter motor gets rusted. That is how it usually always happens in a Starter motor after water fording.

Spitfire · 17th April 2010, 20:48

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Originally Posted by Tejas@perioimpl

Apparently only the "bandage" is moving. Whatever that means.

He must have meant Starter Bendix.

Water + dust + weeks time == Starter Kaput.

Have it serviced and check for shorted electrical wires.

You can push start it.

harjeev · 17th April 2010, 20:55

This is what water does to the electricals. I too learnt this the hard way and at the end changed the alternator and the starter motor on my MM550. That was the last of any water fording, jumping etc etc for me!!!
Now I am really careful.

VLOCT · 17th April 2010, 21:05

Fascinating thread. I myself am thinking about picking up a Jeep Rubicon (Chrysler) here, for my wife.

Tejas@perioimpl · 19th April 2010, 11:04

Just got a call from the mechanic. The starter has been repaired. Couldn't speak to him much so don't know what had gone wrong. Will get details in the evening.

BTW, my pulley is completely brown with rust. Should i replace it or just sand paper it down?

Jaggu · 19th April 2010, 12:32

Nothing much you can do apart from drying the engine bay thoroughly after a water wash, i usually park the vehicle (even the swift) with bay open for couple of hours after a wash and blow dry. I dont like the idea of smearing oil or diesel inside the bay after wash.

Rudra has done a 3M protection inside the engine bay on his Optra, this is a very good idea if you dont mind splurging.

Tejas@perioimpl · 20th April 2010, 10:53

The starter motor is back. Starts on first crank. However, the battery indicator light is on. Drove for a while thinking battery may be down but the light does not go. The volt meter shows 11volts approx.

star_aqua · 20th April 2010, 11:47

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Originally Posted by Tejas@perioimpl

The starter motor is back. Starts on first crank. However, the battery indicator light is on. Drove for a while thinking battery may be down but the light does not go. The volt meter shows 11volts approx.

Then must be alternator gone kaput. Please check for alternator voltage and make sure fan belt is intact.

9th April 2010, 23:25	#228
DHABHAR.BEHRAM Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: MUMBAI Posts: 3,060 Thanked: 5,353 Times	Dear Tejas - cap is correct. Check the vertical dimension of the neck v/s cap. Cap dimension in free condition (not fitted on neck) must be slightly more than neck dimension. The amount of pressing down pre-loads the spring to a set design value, for it to work at correct pressure during running. Did you change the top hose pipe? Best regards, Behram Dhabhar
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10th April 2010, 11:09	#229
Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,581 Times View My Garage	Not changed the pipe as yet. My regular mech is not in town and didn't want to go to his subordinate. The cap fits as you said. Will take more pics and post. Jaggu, if you can't find it, i'll send it from here. But please ask behram what pressure for your hurricane?
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17th April 2010, 20:12	#230
Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,581 Times View My Garage	Well, another problem was overdue and lo, it happened. Did the Alibaug OTR last weekend. Everyone must have seen the snaps. The water fording wasn't much either. Got the car serviced on tuesday and drove it on thursday for a while as well. However, no issue till then. This evening, tried to crank the jeep but nope nothing happened. Checked other electricals, the lights, etc worked and battery was showing approx 9 volts. All i was getting was a khrrrrr sound on cranking. Checked for earthing somewhere, removed the deck, etc and tried again but to no avail. I'm not an electrical guy, so called my regular honda mechanic who's closeby. He saw and said the starter motor is gone. Apparently only the "bandage" is moving. Whatever that means. Anyways, found out that a new one costs 5500 bucks here. So he's taken this one out and will try to repair it. Now why did it happen? Any ideas? Another thing i noticed is that after the last OTR near the sea, the rusting process has accelerated very quickly (especially the air filter cover and the exhaust manifold. even the pulley has rusted). See all the rust in the engine bay area. It wasn't like this before. Any idea how to prevent it for the future? Anything needs to be replaced now? Attached Thumbnails Last edited by Tejas@perioimpl : 17th April 2010 at 20:16. Reason: typo
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17th April 2010, 20:21	#231
Red Liner Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 5,209 Thanked: 18,042 Times	Starter Motor: Water gone in and shorted. I am pretty sure your alternator is busted too. Next time, go easy on the whole water fording thing. Or just be prepared to work on the starter motor and alternator.
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17th April 2010, 20:55	#235
harjeev Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 1,899 Thanked: 292 Times View My Garage	This is what water does to the electricals. I too learnt this the hard way and at the end changed the alternator and the starter motor on my MM550. That was the last of any water fording, jumping etc etc for me!!! Now I am really careful.
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17th April 2010, 21:05	#236
VLOCT BHPian Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Las Vegas, USA Posts: 558 Thanked: 633 Times View My Garage	Fascinating thread. I myself am thinking about picking up a Jeep Rubicon (Chrysler) here, for my wife.
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19th April 2010, 11:04	#237
Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,581 Times View My Garage	Just got a call from the mechanic. The starter has been repaired. Couldn't speak to him much so don't know what had gone wrong. Will get details in the evening. BTW, my pulley is completely brown with rust. Should i replace it or just sand paper it down? Last edited by Tejas@perioimpl : 19th April 2010 at 11:06. Reason: typo
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19th April 2010, 12:32	#238
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,212 Thanked: 15,892 Times	Nothing much you can do apart from drying the engine bay thoroughly after a water wash, i usually park the vehicle (even the swift) with bay open for couple of hours after a wash and blow dry. I dont like the idea of smearing oil or diesel inside the bay after wash. Rudra has done a 3M protection inside the engine bay on his Optra, this is a very good idea if you dont mind splurging.
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20th April 2010, 10:53	#239
Tejas@perioimpl Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Bombay Posts: 4,423 Thanked: 9,581 Times View My Garage	The starter motor is back. Starts on first crank. However, the battery indicator light is on. Drove for a while thinking battery may be down but the light does not go. The volt meter shows 11volts approx.
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