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If the specs are not confirmed, i can understand the questioning. EDIT: I see that FFRA is finally on the horizon! ![]() Quote:
This is what i felt. (Again, i think) its supposed Do everything in a relatively good manner, and not just excel in one aspect. (we have the 550/550 XD's for that don't we?) Quote:
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if we go by your posts, only live axle vehicles can be taken off road, and IFS will curl up and die at the first sight of a rock. Agreed the IFS may not be as capable as live axle off road, but except for hardcore off roading, i thin the IFS will be preferred by most customers. | ||||
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Do please keep in mind that in a large organisation like M&M getting things done is a bit like trying to steer a ship. You give the right inputs and wait for the action to take place. Keep fine tuning inputs till you get moving in the right direction. If only it were an auto ! What's important is, these discussions and the points being made, are not entirely a waste of time. I do feel this is of great value and will no doubt positively impact the finalisation of Thar specs. To what extent it does is anyone's guess, including the people who actually implement those changes. Last edited by DKG : 11th March 2010 at 13:19. |
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I'm too insignificant in this Grand Scheme to get a chance to drive the Mahindra THAR. From what I have seen, its only got a better Engine & Gearbox compared to my MM540XD. ![]() Please explain "far less tough obstacles" ? Is it the regular Bangalore OTRs, Kerala OTRs or the regular Chennai OTRs. If I believe that the IFS will curl up and die at the first sight of rocks, I will definitely say it in as many words. But to say the least, on hard surface the IFS( Lower/Upper Arms) will get damaged, due to theri design and as they have more moving parts; if fully then the vehicle will be immobilized, if partially damaged then the Camber/Caster/Toe-In will change and the tyre will get chewed up. Neither one is a cheap replacement. Did it every occur to some, that All the OTRs in India are Hardcore/Serious because we use Solid Axle Leaf Spring Mahindra JEEPs. Regards, Arka Last edited by ex670c : 11th March 2010 at 13:54. | |
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| ![]() Yeah thats true, most of the trails in India are unique in many ways, including the surface (rocky and filled with ruts). Even during monsoons when the soil might be soft, but trails filled with unsuspecting boulders. Capable imported vehicles also face tough issues in our trail, issues starting with the size of the trails itself ![]() |
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Senior - BHPian ![]() | ![]() Spike if Harley can make more money selling jackets and helmets why not the Thar division in Mahindra? Accessories can be big business for Mahindra M&M have the FFRA. Now they need to develop an axle to suit the MLD or vice versa. Not possible? |
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1. Who do you think are going to be the potential buyers of the Thar? 2. Only valid if the answer to above is greater than one: why can't M&M have different variants catering to the different classes? 3. Is M&M thinking of catering Thar to the Army as well? Thanks, Tejas | |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Hello Jeep Guru's Any ideas as to when will the THAR be released.?, I hope the thar is not another OM611 from Force Motors |
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Just another question regarding axles. These info is from respective spec sheets MM550XDP: Front: Ratio= 4.88:1 Capacity: 907 Kg Rear: Ratio= 4.88:1 Capacity: 1134 Kg (SFRA) Thar Axles (As released on European Site) Front: Ratio= 4.3:1 Capacity: 1100 Kg Rear: Ratio = 4.3:1 Capacity: 1700 Kg (SFRA) NGCS MM550XD: (Please Post for FFRA) Bolero: (Please post for FFRA) What does the Capacity signifies? Is it how much weight that axle is capable of towing? Does higher capacity means better strength? Here. the Thar's axle capacity seems to be more, though they are better suitable for speed w.r.t Ratio. |
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| ![]() @Offroad_maniac , hmm interesting, members please give your comments Spike |
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BHPian ![]() | ![]() Sorry all (as I am not into off-roading much and this is off-topic for me), but is this thread the longest for a vehicle that is not yet released? 73 pages and growing. As to myself, I am learning a lot of terms (off roading jargon, i mean). Thanks all. |
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