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Old 4th October 2021, 20:44   #166
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This week's update : Hilux is not coming i guess. Did some digging around with toyota factory friends of friends and they said no plans this year.
So looking at other options now.

Since ford closed shop last week i have been thinking about good deals of the endeavour. A welll kept 4 5 year old one with less miles on it would fit beautifully as a overland rig. I see the aussies and US folks with their everest

So i am thinking seriously of doing a pivot on to getting this SUV. Saw a 2016 Endeavour with 70k on it and in great shape. I am doing research on near future parts availability and repairs to evaluate the cost/benefit of getting this endy as my selected rig. Feedback please...

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A Toyota Fortuner of similar age will perhaps be a better bet given Toyota's continued presence and availability of spares. Not to mention the near bullet proof build.
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A Toyota Fortuner of similar age will perhaps be a better bet given Toyota's continued presence and availability of spares. Not to mention the near bullet proof build.
The cost is the factor. An 2016/17 Endy is available for around 20L with 60K kms on its odo. Fortuners aren't in this ballpark.
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Major update to the overland build:

New option emerged in form of a Isuzu dmax vcross 2017 vehicle at a decent budget. So I am going for it and moving to the next stepof the build around this vehicle.

Whats it fulfills:
1. 4x4
2. good reliability
3. Open bed pickup truck
4. decent road manners. (somewhat)

What I compromised on:
1. No automatic
2. No diff lock
3. updated bells & whistles and looks.

Overall a good platform for the next phase of the build after taking delivery of the vehicle. I will make checklists and vendor shortlists next week for the them. Among the big topics are: Rig design, tent, storage, power management, fridge, cooking and water needs.

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I was just wondering why build on an Isuzu when Mahindra has an excellent S11-based pickup that they sell in Australia and South Africa. Just ran a search on Youtube for "australia mahindra ute camper". Please forgive my ignorance on Indian homologation rules, but it seems Mahindra does NOT readily sell this domestically. Would really welcome if vkiran_2000 blazes a trail that someone like me can consider following.
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Major update to the overland build:

New option emerged in form of a Isuzu dmax vcross 2017 vehicle at a decent budget.

Among the big topics are: Rig design, tent, storage, power management, fridge, cooking and water needs.

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You could carry two batteries. There is something called an "isolator" which allows you to charge two batteries off one alternator but discharge off each battery separately. One battery would say, start the car and do car stuff, the other battery would run any outside lights and equipment you have. The one running down would not draw on or affect the other.

Also, I don't know if you want to get this detailed, but there are batteries called "deep cycle" batteries. These are built to deeply discharge and recharge on a routine basis. Car batteries are not really built to do this. Deep cycle batteries hold up to this much better. They are often used in marine (boat) applications. These I would use for peripheral lights and equipment.
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You could carry two batteries. There is something called an "isolator" which allows you to charge two batteries off one alternator but discharge off each battery separately. One battery would say, start the car and do car stuff, the other battery would run any outside lights and equipment you have. The one running down would not draw on or affect the other.

Also, I don't know if you want to get this detailed, but there are batteries called "deep cycle" batteries. These are built to deeply discharge and recharge on a routine basis. Car batteries are not really built to do this. Deep cycle batteries hold up to this much better. They are often used in marine (boat) applications. These I would use for peripheral lights and equipment.
There are a lot of circuits for using two batteries in RV's available on the net. You can even order kits for various battery capacities online.

Regarding Deep Cycle Batteries", they are designed for stationary application and may not be suitable in a vehicle where the battery will be subjected to vibrations on regular basis and vertical and horizontal shocks at times. So please check their suitability.

One option is to use "Sealed Lead Acid Batteries" used in UPS and other critical applications. They have been there is US for decades and barring their cost are ideally suitable for off-road use.
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I was just wondering why build on an Isuzu when Mahindra has an excellent S11-based pickup that they sell in Australia and South Africa. ... Would really welcome if vkiran_2000 blazes a trail that someone like me can consider following.
The S11 (or the Scorpio getaway as it is known in India) is no longer available in India. There are a few available in the second hand market but not in great condition.

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You could carry two batteries. ...Deep cycle batteries hold up to this much better. They are often used in marine (boat) applications. These I would use for peripheral lights and equipment.
Good ideas. The overland "industry" has used them to develop battery packs by Jackery and Bluetti to name a few. They offer multiple charging and discharging options suited for camping. Check this example comparison out below.

I am trying to get one of these imported or check out some locally built or available online ones.


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This week's update : Hilux is not coming i guess. Did some digging around with toyota factory friends of friends and they said no plans this year.
I was told that Hilux will be launched in March-April but CBU. This information is from a friend who works with Toyota. But things may change in the coming months. I was also waiting for Hilux. Finally found a BS4 Z Prestige which had done only 3000 kms and picked it up.


And congratulations on you new possession. It looks good. I have seen this vehicle in JP Nagar. Hope this serves you well.

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