[SPIKE ARRESTOR]

Originally Posted by shayne

Just bought my Warn XD9000 winch for the THAR
Now all i need is the launch date to make my day!

Ooh la la la, so we have a prospective customer here. How much did the Winch cost you, what about the base/winch plate? Can we have some pictures please?

Spike

[shayne]

A pre-sold customer, a definite buyer (with 4 seats or 7)! Been waiting for it since the Auto Expo.
I am in Malaysia at the moment so it cost me the equivalent of Rs55k. Is that comparable to what i would have paid in India? I didn't get the base plate though. As for pictures, i will try tomorrow, since i was not going to unpack it until i come back to India in a couple of months!

[Sutripta]

OT. So please excuse.

Originally Posted by yikes6633

Perceptions Sir and mind set.
<snip>
See what perceptions can do:

Methinks we'll for the perceptions of more learned people! Lawyers/ judges on this forum.

Originally Posted by Sudarshan

Hi, All
A few years back it was a standerd practice with mahindras , Brand new vehicles were ' driven' from factory to dealers. yes driven at long distances.
Yours Sudarshan

Common practice before the age of car transporters. By all manufacturers. Not really a problem, in my eyes. Actually there were more serious allegations. Think Jeeps and elections.

Regards
Sutripta

[Sudarshan]

Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

Ooh la la la, so we have a prospective customer here. How much did the Winch cost you, what about the base/winch plate? Can we have some pictures please?

Spike

Winch base plate design & fitting instructions are available on Warn site.
I have fitted a Warn using those instructions. this is bassically a L plate ,6 mm thick.
First I made a thermocole model to check the fit in the chassis have a look.
Yours Sudarshan
P.S. Sorry for a little off topic , But issued in the public interest

[fazalaliadil]

Originally Posted by shayne

Just bought my Warn XD9000 winch for the THAR
Now all i need is the launch date to make my day!

shayne,
Can you please share the source and the cost?

[yikes6633]

Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

Hi Deepak,

You are spot on. Both benches cannot be equal, as per CMVR for every person a minimum space of 381 mm (15 ") must be provided, so for 3 people the length becomes 45". Then the longer seat has to be 45" and the shorter one >= 30" and <=45" isn't it? Now do the maths to find out which seat (longer/shorter) must be behind the driver/co-driver seats. Hope you got the answer.

Spike

PS- As a manufacturer we are bound to follow these laws which others somehow fail to comprehend and term as an excuse :-(

Hi Spikey, given that the seats at the rear have 2 different configurations of 30inches and 45 inches, is there any way we can explore the possibility of having one of these (may be the smaller one of 30") benches be fitted as the rear front facing seat.

This will give us an option of having the nuts and bolts removed and refitted with a spanner, to make it a 7 seater when needed and a 4 seater as well, based on need and requirement with the OEM.

The clamps and provisions should be in place so that it can be a "Do it yourself" kinduv a set up.

Are there any possibilities of this being configured to our advantage?

Thoughts please

Yikes!

[4x4addict]

Guys as a personal favor to the team-bhp community, spike is going to wear a ninja suit and arm himself with a drill and visit The Thar assembly line at night and put bolt holes for front facing rear seats without the knowledge of CMVR :-).

[maddy42]

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Guys as a personal favor to the team-bhp community, spike is going to wear a ninja suit and arm himself with a drill and visit The Thar assembly line at night and put bolt holes for front facing rear seats without the knowledge of CMVR :-).

Ya Spike common you can do it

[SPIKE ARRESTOR]

Originally Posted by yikes6633

Hi Spikey, given that the seats at the rear have 2 different configurations of 30inches and 45 inches, is there any way we can explore the possibility of having one of these (may be the smaller one of 30") benches be fitted as the rear front facing seat.

The clamps and provisions should be in place so that it can be a "Do it yourself" kinduv a set up.

Hi Yikes,

This is possible, but then you will have to modify/strengthen the base frame of the seat (side facing ones) to suit the requirements. Mountings will be different for side facing and front facing rear seats. Provision for mounting front facing seats will be provided, I don't see any issue here.

Originally Posted by 4x4addict

Guys as a personal favor to the team-bhp community, spike is going to wear a ninja suit and arm himself with a drill and visit The Thar assembly line at night and put bolt holes for front facing rear seats without the knowledge of CMVR :-).

Tini, I need not put on my Ninja suit as the mounting provisions are already given

Incidentally, you are asking a person to do this who happens to be the custodian on CMVR activities related to ....

Spike

[r_nairtvm]

Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

Tini, I need not put on my Ninja suit as the mounting provisions are already given

Incidentally, you are asking a person to do this who happens to be the custodian on CMVR activities related to ....

Spike

Spike
Haven't you heard the old saying - "set a thief to catch a thief".

I work in the financial field. When the "Compliance" regimn was started in all organisations post 9/11, my boss made me the Compliance Manager for my office as he thought I would be the first one who would find ways to circumvent any compliance requirements.

Best Regards & Drive/Ride Safe

Ram

[shayne]

Originally Posted by fazalaliadil

shayne,
Can you please share the source and the cost?

I bought it in Kuala Lumpur, cost me Rs55,000

[ex670c]

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

just heard on the 'breaking news' channel that the Thar ended up with SFRA instead of FFRA due to the following reason : frictional losses due to additional bearings in FFRA. I find this . Wow ! I mean...WOW !!! Is this true ?

Hi Senthil,

How much of Frictional Losses can 2 Additional bearings in the FFRA cause?

Then What about the Front Axle its 4WD and what about the Lack of Free-Wheeling Hubs. I'm sure a 5-7Kg Propeller Shaft Spinning a 400rpm is definitely going to add the frictional losses.

Maybe only the Rear Wheel functions are checked on the Chassis Dynamo-meter.

Regards,

Arka

[Blue Thunder]

Originally Posted by ex670c

...How much of Frictional Losses can 2 Additional bearings in the FFRA cause?...

That is exactly what I am not able to understand, Arka.

Originally Posted by ex670c

...Maybe only the Rear Wheel functions are checked on the Chassis Dynamo-meter.

Maybe the CMVR requirements are such ? Hope SPIKE ARRESTOR can clarify on this.

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Originally Posted by ex670c

Maybe only the Rear Wheel functions are checked on the Chassis Dynamo-meter.

Originally Posted by Blue Thunder

That is exactly what I am not able to understand, Arka.
Maybe the CMVR requirements are such ? Hope SPIKE ARRESTOR can clarify on this.

Hey Guys, Let me jump sides

There are so many variables in building a vehicle that the general tendency is to reduce OH as well as BOM.

As the SFRA is popular among most models, getting one fitted on the THAR is easy. The Axle we presume has been tested for use and abuse in 4wd environment and has taken enough beatings to emerge favorable.

Hence it IS SFRA and not FFRA.

Peace..

[SPIKE ARRESTOR]

Originally Posted by ex670c

Maybe only the Rear Wheel functions are checked on the Chassis Dynamo-meter.

Emission tests are always done in 2WD configuration.

Spike