I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B

fazalaliadil · 18th April 2011, 21:40

Shubz,
Gear Knobs, grease cup, air cleaner boot, and (bonus) 2 hole aux. gear shift boot, if you need them let me know.
Also make your own plug, distributor to coil leads, take a good quality cable and cut as required also get a clamp to hold them together. Later I added rubber suppressors to the spark plugs.

Anything else?
Regards,

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Shubz · 18th April 2011, 22:44

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Originally Posted by fazalaliadil

Shubz,
Gear Knobs, grease cup, air cleaner boot, and (bonus) 2 hole aux. gear shift boot, if you need them let me know.
Also make your own plug, distributor to coil leads, take a good quality cable and cut as required also get a clamp to hold them together. Later I added rubber suppressors to the spark plugs.

Anything else?
Regards,

Gear Knobs, grease cup is a sure yes. Gear shift boots I got from the US, so I am fine with them. Looking for Original Speedometer as well. (this did not originally come with the meter cluster I guess). Appreciate your help Fazal sir.

fazalaliadil · 19th April 2011, 07:51

Will surely send it across. The original meters with the Jeep and Mahindra logo together, are not available anywhere.
Welcome and Regards,

Jaggu · 19th April 2011, 15:48

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Originally Posted by SPIKE ARRESTOR

Did they really say it is a recommended procedure?

Yes Whitefield Honda insisted and even argued with me! At the end of the day they were the ones responsible for 6 months warranty so i told them to do whatever they want, so that they are responsible!

Shubz · 19th April 2011, 20:47

Had a trial drive today amidst lots of "domestic" engagements. Went on a long drive on kanakapura road. Hulk just sails! Amazing engine response. A few niggling vibrations which is fine.

But... Ran into a small issue!

Suddenly the vehicle started shuddering/sputtering/choking and stalling. Crank the engine again and move a few yards and the same thing repeated. The AC pump wasn't drawing fuel. It was drawing fine all the time during the standing run-in.

Pulled the switch to actuate electronic pump, Hulk sails again.

but...

Fuel stops being pumped due to the heat. Somehow brought him back to the garage.

So option now -- gurus advise please?

Change the AC pump? (it is the most woriginal pump and I don't know if I can find another one like that) :(

&

Replace the existing electronic pump with a new one (as suggested by Gopal) as he said the other one is more efficient than the current one.

Another question: So does it mean, I run solely on the electronic pump?

Thanks in advance.

wanderer4x4 · 19th April 2011, 21:22

Eh! Now you too have run into the oft discussed, infamous CJ3B illness? Its really sad that it is taking away the fun from your greatly done up engine.

And it seems that even the electronic FP conks off and is not a fool proof solution in a 3B. So, gurus, isn't there a definitive solution to this FP problem apart from the "wet socks"?

Jaggu · 19th April 2011, 22:42

Fit a new electronic pump with a switch and try to put a return line from carb to tank. Thats the best option. Also do a long trial with the new electronic pump coz the brand new one i got conked in 5 kms and the old one (which was originally faulty due to wiring) is doing the service well.

Shubz · 19th April 2011, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jaggu

Fit a new electronic pump with a switch and try to put a return line from carb to tank. Thats the best option. Also do a long trial with the new electronic pump coz the brand new one i got conked in 5 kms and the old one (which was originally faulty due to wiring) is doing the service well.

I have an electronic pump. Almost brand new (fitted at Pushpa Auto) and it does make the whirring noise when switched on. But seems like its failing to perform when heated (as it is close to the exhaust pipe on the chassis).

Return line from carb to tank is a good idea. So I will shop for the AC pump now

Shubz · 20th April 2011, 19:03

Strange behavior of the AC pump. This afternoon, it was running as usual. The glass dome filled with fuel and could see bubbles when the engine was running.

Is it the heat (when running) that causes the diaphragm to seize?

Update now is - Gopal has spoken to someone who has an original AC pump and also a diaphragm kit. Will be tested on it tomorrow.

Trying to get rid of the Toyotaish sound of the starter motor. Getting the other motor (received courtesy UBS sir) serviced and mounted.

Still hoping for gurus to give some insight on the pump behavior.

Thanks.

wanderer4x4 · 20th April 2011, 20:03

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazalaliadil

Shubz,
Gear Knobs, grease cup, air cleaner boot, and (bonus) 2 hole aux. gear shift boot, if you need them let me know.
Anything else?

Hi Fazal ji,

Just came across this offer by you. Since, Shub does not need the Aux. Gear shift boot, can I have them please, if they are still up for grabs? (Hope Shub won't mind my trying to grab shop items offered to him.)

Shubz · 20th April 2011, 20:16

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Originally Posted by wanderer4x4

Hi Fazal ji,

Just came across this offer by you. Since, Shub does not need the Aux. Gear shift boot, can I have them please, if they are still up for grabs? (Hope Shub won't mind my trying to grab shop items offered to him.)

There is no "minding" within the family! You are not hijacking something that I am seeking too. So go ahead!

fazalaliadil · 20th April 2011, 20:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by wanderer4x4

Hi Fazal ji,

Just came across this offer by you. Since, Shub does not need the Aux. Gear shift boot, can I have them please, if they are still up for grabs?

Sure, Its in my garage, just sms your mailing address on 0 98850 71025. Since your 3B is not a Mahindra...why stick that name horn button? I will also send you a plane black horn button that came on 3B.
Regards,

wanderer4x4 · 20th April 2011, 20:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by fazalaliadil

Sure, Its in my garage, just sms your mailing address on 0 98850 71025. Since your 3B is not a Mahindra...why stick that name horn button? I will also send you a plane black horn button that came on 3B.
Regards,

Thank you so much, Fazal ji. Am sending you a PM with my details. Thanks once again.

Jaggu · 21st April 2011, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Shubz

Is it the heat (when running) that causes the diaphragm to seize?

Yup heat plays a havoc with the OE fuel pump, maybe add two packings at the end connecting to engine to reduce the heat transfer. Should help a bit. Am also planning to cover the metal petrol pipe with rubber or asbestos to reduce the fuel line heat up. This becomes a pain for hot starts.

Shubz · 21st April 2011, 17:50

Fuel pump was working today (strangely). New electronic fuel pump installed. a little away from the chassis. Will use it as it is. Will actuate electronic pump if the OE pump fails.

The other starter motor is being serviced. Will be changing over to that after that as the existing one doesn't seem to be "returning bendix" as per Gopal, so the toyota'ish sound.

Packing on the OE pump - Good idea! will have it tried.

18th April 2011, 21:40	#196
fazalaliadil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,022 Thanked: 672 Times View My Garage	Re: I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B Shubz, Gear Knobs, grease cup, air cleaner boot, and (bonus) 2 hole aux. gear shift boot, if you need them let me know. Also make your own plug, distributor to coil leads, take a good quality cable and cut as required also get a clamp to hold them together. Later I added rubber suppressors to the spark plugs. Anything else? Regards,
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19th April 2011, 07:51	#198
fazalaliadil Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Hyderabad Posts: 2,022 Thanked: 672 Times View My Garage	Re: I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B Will surely send it across. The original meters with the Jeep and Mahindra logo together, are not available anywhere. Welcome and Regards, Last edited by fazalaliadil : 19th April 2011 at 07:55.
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19th April 2011, 20:47	#200
Shubz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,905 Thanked: 1,154 Times	Re: I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B Had a trial drive today amidst lots of "domestic" engagements. Went on a long drive on kanakapura road. Hulk just sails! Amazing engine response. A few niggling vibrations which is fine. But... Ran into a small issue! Suddenly the vehicle started shuddering/sputtering/choking and stalling. Crank the engine again and move a few yards and the same thing repeated. The AC pump wasn't drawing fuel. It was drawing fine all the time during the standing run-in. Pulled the switch to actuate electronic pump, Hulk sails again. but... Fuel stops being pumped due to the heat. Somehow brought him back to the garage. So option now -- gurus advise please? Change the AC pump? (it is the most woriginal pump and I don't know if I can find another one like that) :( & Replace the existing electronic pump with a new one (as suggested by Gopal) as he said the other one is more efficient than the current one. Another question: So does it mean, I run solely on the electronic pump? Thanks in advance.
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19th April 2011, 21:22	#201
wanderer4x4 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Guwahati Posts: 336 Thanked: 524 Times	Re: I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B Eh! Now you too have run into the oft discussed, infamous CJ3B illness? Its really sad that it is taking away the fun from your greatly done up engine. And it seems that even the electronic FP conks off and is not a fool proof solution in a 3B. So, gurus, isn't there a definitive solution to this FP problem apart from the "wet socks"?
	() Thanks

19th April 2011, 22:42	#202
Jaggu Team-BHP Support Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bangalore Posts: 20,215 Thanked: 15,906 Times	Re: I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B Fit a new electronic pump with a switch and try to put a return line from carb to tank. Thats the best option. Also do a long trial with the new electronic pump coz the brand new one i got conked in 5 kms and the old one (which was originally faulty due to wiring) is doing the service well.
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20th April 2011, 19:03	#204
Shubz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,905 Thanked: 1,154 Times	Re: I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B Strange behavior of the AC pump. This afternoon, it was running as usual. The glass dome filled with fuel and could see bubbles when the engine was running. Is it the heat (when running) that causes the diaphragm to seize? Update now is - Gopal has spoken to someone who has an original AC pump and also a diaphragm kit. Will be tested on it tomorrow. Trying to get rid of the Toyotaish sound of the starter motor. Getting the other motor (received courtesy UBS sir) serviced and mounted. Still hoping for gurus to give some insight on the pump behavior. Thanks.
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21st April 2011, 17:50	#210
Shubz Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,905 Thanked: 1,154 Times	Re: I found The Hulk - WILLYS CJ3B Fuel pump was working today (strangely). New electronic fuel pump installed. a little away from the chassis. Will use it as it is. Will actuate electronic pump if the OE pump fails. The other starter motor is being serviced. Will be changing over to that after that as the existing one doesn't seem to be "returning bendix" as per Gopal, so the toyota'ish sound. Packing on the OE pump - Good idea! will have it tried.
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