Commercial Vehicle Thread

hvkumar · 26th July 2007, 13:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by n_aditya

Heard that the volvo's cost excess of 70 lakhs. Got this info from the driver himself.

May be more cost-efficient to buy one of Ratan Tata's 1 lakh cars for each of the passengers in the Volvo bus, and also give them a kitty for their first year's operating expenses! And did I hear someone saying that public transport is more efficient?!!!!

nitrous · 26th July 2007, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by naditya

Heard that the volvo's cost excess of 70 lakhs. Got this info from the driver himself.

I never believe drivers.
They always over-price the vehicles they drive.

DileepKS · 26th July 2007, 16:58

Perspective of the Kerala Boy who was Bus/Truck crazy (When 1210s and Comet/Vikings ruled)

All the local trucks that carried the timber out from the village and materials in were Tata, 1210D, 1210S and 1210SE. And some old ones that were the original Benz branded onces, but with the tata logo added aftermarket. Then there were the WW2 age Fords that were smaller. Also there were dodges, studebakers, chevrolets which were looked with contempt by us kids.

Then there were what we used to call the "Tamil Nadu" trucks, which were always AL, Comet or Viking. We were excited to see them, not only because their appearance is rare, but also their front looked like Buses. We read the "Kerala Tamil Nadu Pondy Karnataka" listing on the side and look in awe!

All the local buses were Tata. 1210D and then later 1210E. People used to say that the 1210SE truck is a 1210S with an E engine. They looked the same for sure. The long distance buses, mostly running to high ranges were invariably AL.

We always considered the ALs to be better buses. The village wisdom is, Tata is suitable for frequent stops, because their engine and gearbox are lighter. AL will accelerate only slowly, but will run faster and more comfy. The buses had names, and the owners and drivers are known. Each had reputations too. So, in an environment devoid of entertainment, the fast buses and drivers were heros.

The tourist buses (Contract carriage to be precise) were invariably AL. No one would rent a tata tourist bus. The tatas used to send a spine numbing vibration up at speeds more than 50km

Those were the days..

iraghava · 26th July 2007, 17:06

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Originally Posted by nitrous

I never believe drivers.
They always over-price the vehicles they drive.

All drivers?

1100D · 6th August 2007, 08:11

The Lorry ( tractor ) rear

The rear (those balloons (what do we call them?) are for the air suspension for the rear most axle)

The rear suspension - bottom view (see the suspension of the leaf, which holds the rear axle)

The rear suspension - top view, see the shocker, as well as the same mounting points as seen from top

Front support for the leaf

Is that a tracking/locating arm? (The axle before this, has just the reverse arrangement, i.e left end connected to frame rail, right end to the axle housing.)

Peek-a-boo onto the front of the front suspension (rear of the front suspension was a simple hook-up to the metal frame which the camera could not manage to capture). Front suspension looks like pure leaf, although the cab is suspended on air, on top of the frame.

Thats how we see those trucks (and say oh its just a truck!)

When you see this on your RVM better move over!

Experts please start your engines

Mpower · 6th August 2007, 17:49

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1100D

The Lorry ( tractor ) rear
The rear (those balloons (what do we call them?) are for the air suspension for the rear most axle)

The rear suspension - bottom view (see the suspension of the leaf, which holds the rear axle)

The rear suspension - top view, see the shocker, as well as the same mounting points as seen from top

Front support for the leaf

Is that a tracking/locating arm? (The axle before this, has just the reverse arrangement, i.e left end connected to frame rail, right end to the axle housing.)

Called as Air bags
The mini leaf in the rear acts more as a trailing arm
The cross car beam is the track bar

1100D · 6th August 2007, 21:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

Called as Air bags
The mini leaf in the rear acts more as a trailing arm

So there is no flexing on this arm. I was thinking this was a first level of spring.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mpower

The cross car beam is the track bar

The track bar on this goes from right to left on the rearmost axle and left to right on the axle in front of it. This is there to mostly transfoer lateral forces onto the truckframe. However what about trucks that have a single rear axle? they have 2 track bars for the single rear axle ?

Jomz · 10th August 2007, 10:16

No idea mate.. I'm into Engines @ AL

Mad Monkey · 10th August 2007, 12:02

Special High Speed fire trucks at MBP , waiting to be transported to delhi .

hormaz · 10th August 2007, 12:24

wow, these look mean, any specs you got on this?

They sure are going to stop a lot of things from burning down i say

iraghava · 10th August 2007, 12:28

^^^ Looks real nice!! Seems like Delhi Airport is going all high-tech!

nitrous · 10th August 2007, 13:00

I believe even TN has ordered a handful of these "ferrari" firetrucks.

mail4ajo · 10th August 2007, 13:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by nitrous

I believe even TN has ordered a handful of these "ferrari" firetrucks.

Currently the new ones are imported Iveco's. Looks very trendy as compared to old ones.

Ram · 10th August 2007, 14:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by hormaz

wow, these look mean, any specs you got on this?
They sure are going to stop a lot of things from burning down i say

This is the 31-ton Rosenbauer Panther CA-5 six-wheel-drive airport rescue and firefighting vehicle. It is Euro-3 compliant.

It is powered by a Caterpillar diesel engine that develops 705 bhp @ 2100 rpm. It can reach 120 km/h and accelerate 0 to 80 km/h in 32 seconds, while carrying nearly 24 tons of water. It has a twin-disc 6-speed automatic gearbox.

The laser-cut aluminium body has steel fenders and FRP add-ons, huge windows and revolving glass doors. It carries a driver and three firemen.

It is equipped with a 12,000 litre polypropylene water tank, a 12,000 litre foam tank with 1,500 litres of foaming agent plus a 135 kg dry powder unit to fight all types of fires.

To protect the vehicle itself from the burning aircraft's flames, it has ground sweep nozzles which cover it completely.

Ram

AMATMO · 10th August 2007, 14:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mad Monkey

Special High Speed fire trucks at MBP , waiting to be transported to delhi .

mad monkey its great that you could hunt it down
its amazing how you manage to find trucks

i remember the MAN trucks you had posted ,thanks for the pics
but tell me how many such trucks are there at present (i can see one more parked nearby)or how many have been ordered?

And which company/brand is this? Does it belong to some existing well known brand?

i dont know anything about these trucks
(Even though i am a truck enthusiast )

26th July 2007, 16:58	#183
DileepKS BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 137 Thanked: 8 Times	Perspective of the Kerala Boy who was Bus/Truck crazy (When 1210s and Comet/Vikings ruled) All the local trucks that carried the timber out from the village and materials in were Tata, 1210D, 1210S and 1210SE. And some old ones that were the original Benz branded onces, but with the tata logo added aftermarket. Then there were the WW2 age Fords that were smaller. Also there were dodges, studebakers, chevrolets which were looked with contempt by us kids. Then there were what we used to call the "Tamil Nadu" trucks, which were always AL, Comet or Viking. We were excited to see them, not only because their appearance is rare, but also their front looked like Buses. We read the "Kerala Tamil Nadu Pondy Karnataka" listing on the side and look in awe! All the local buses were Tata. 1210D and then later 1210E. People used to say that the 1210SE truck is a 1210S with an E engine. They looked the same for sure. The long distance buses, mostly running to high ranges were invariably AL. We always considered the ALs to be better buses. The village wisdom is, Tata is suitable for frequent stops, because their engine and gearbox are lighter. AL will accelerate only slowly, but will run faster and more comfy. The buses had names, and the owners and drivers are known. Each had reputations too. So, in an environment devoid of entertainment, the fast buses and drivers were heros. The tourist buses (Contract carriage to be precise) were invariably AL. No one would rent a tata tourist bus. The tatas used to send a spine numbing vibration up at speeds more than 50km Those were the days..
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6th August 2007, 08:11	#185
1100D Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Calcutta Posts: 4,390 Thanked: 4,079 Times View My Garage	The Lorry ( tractor ) rear The rear (those balloons (what do we call them?) are for the air suspension for the rear most axle) The rear suspension - bottom view (see the suspension of the leaf, which holds the rear axle) The rear suspension - top view, see the shocker, as well as the same mounting points as seen from top Front support for the leaf Is that a tracking/locating arm? (The axle before this, has just the reverse arrangement, i.e left end connected to frame rail, right end to the axle housing.) Peek-a-boo onto the front of the front suspension (rear of the front suspension was a simple hook-up to the metal frame which the camera could not manage to capture). Front suspension looks like pure leaf, although the cab is suspended on air, on top of the frame. Thats how we see those trucks (and say oh its just a truck!) When you see this on your RVM better move over! Experts please start your engines Last edited by 1100D : 6th August 2007 at 08:31.
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10th August 2007, 10:16	#188
Jomz BHPian Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Detroit, MI,USA Posts: 834 Thanked: 335 Times	No idea mate.. I'm into Engines @ AL
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10th August 2007, 12:02	#189
Mad Monkey BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: mumbai Posts: 274 Thanked: 456 Times	Special High Speed fire trucks at MBP , waiting to be transported to delhi . Last edited by Mad Monkey : 10th August 2007 at 12:04.
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10th August 2007, 12:24	#190
hormaz BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Bombay Posts: 103 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	wow, these look mean, any specs you got on this? They sure are going to stop a lot of things from burning down i say
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10th August 2007, 12:28	#191
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	^^^ Looks real nice!! Seems like Delhi Airport is going all high-tech!
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10th August 2007, 13:00	#192
nitrous Senior - BHPian Join Date: May 2004 Location: UAE/Lon/Madras Posts: 6,965 Thanked: 325 Times View My Garage	I believe even TN has ordered a handful of these "ferrari" firetrucks.
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