how to get more bass in my aveo??

sidomania · 16th September 2007, 23:16

i recently booked an aveo ls...
it comes with a kenwood mp3 player(i think the 4029)...4 speakers nd two tweeters

what can i do in order to get more bass?
i dnt want to change the system..just want to add to it!

max budget-10k

plz help me out...

rocksterraghu · 17th September 2007, 00:16

Get a decent 2-channel amplifier, say 60.2 for 4-4.5k, put a GT4-12+Custom sealed enclosure for 6-6.5k, bargain with or strangle the dealer for 1k discount, use the credit card that you swore you never would for 2k and get the wiring and install covered. Total cost should be about 13k.

sidomania · 17th September 2007, 00:59

thnx for the advice...
ne othr suggestions?

sidomania · 17th September 2007, 01:30

nd wat abt a bass tube?
i guess some of thm come with a built in amp...is it advisable to have a bass tube with a built in amp in place of a sub+custom box+2 channel amp??

panky12345 · 17th September 2007, 11:32

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Originally Posted by rocksterraghu

Get a decent 2-channel amplifier, say 60.2 for 4-4.5k, put a GT4-12+Custom sealed enclosure for 6-6.5k, bargain with or strangle the dealer for 1k discount, use the credit card that you swore you never would for 2k and get the wiring and install covered. Total cost should be about 13k.

bhai mere, again a fundamental mistake....2 channel + sub/tube will result only in low frequencies, how about sound? Awaaz nahin aayegi, unless speakers get due amplification which is not possible to get from stock combination.

sidomania · 17th September 2007, 13:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by panky12345

bhai mere, again a fundamental mistake....2 channel + sub/tube will result only in low frequencies, how about sound? Awaaz nahin aayegi, unless speakers get due amplification which is not possible to get from stock combination.

so u mean in order to get more bass..i need to change all the speakers nd buy better ones thn add an amp nd a sub/tube???
aisa koi jugad nai hai jisse everything(volume..quality etc) remains the same nd only the bass increases??

nd wat if i dnt use a sub/tube...only buy an amp nd connect it to the speakers..nd use an equaliser to get more bass???
will this wrk?...will thr be ne negetive effect on my speakers by doing this?

panky12345 · 17th September 2007, 14:38

if only bass (and practically no voice/mids/music etc) is needed go in for amp+sub/tube combo ONLY. I suggest you listen to this first before you buy.

If need proper sound:

1. go in for a decent 4 channel amp, replace your stock speakers with comps in the front and 6X9 in the rear.

2. when pocket allows, add a mono + sub/tube.

Shan2nu · 17th September 2007, 15:01

If you don't wanna upset the present setup, you can go in for an active sub. Since it comes with a built in amp, it'l save time, money and space.

We've got an 8" Soomoku (hope i spelt it right) active sub in our Innova. It's prob an entry level system but it does the job pretty well. With a little tuning you can get a very soothing low frequency output from it. I think it costs around 5-5.5K if i rem right.

I'm sure there a many more sub-10K active subs in the market.

Shan2nu

beanstalk_230 · 17th September 2007, 16:27

sidomania I had a bit similar problem sometime before, got to my senses after the
panky bhai did a bit of counselling ...

but now its really clear to me, SQ is what I want (obviously apne budget wali ..

)

rocksterraghu · 17th September 2007, 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidomania

what can i do in order to get more bass?
i dnt want to change the system..just want to add to it!
max budget-10k
plz help me out...

Quote:

Originally Posted by panky12345

bhai mere, again a fundamental mistake....2 channel + sub/tube will result only in low frequencies, how about sound? Awaaz nahin aayegi, unless speakers get due amplification which is not possible to get from stock combination.

Panky bhai, I suggested looking at the requirement in bold above.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidomania

nd wat abt a bass tube?
i guess some of thm come with a built in amp...is it advisable to have a bass tube with a built in amp in place of a sub+custom box+2 channel amp??

Bass tubes are also VFM and preferred by many. But active tubes (with built-in amplifiers) are not preferable to amp+passive sub. You may consider a 2-channel amplifier and a bass tube like JBLGTO1204T which is a much better choice and fits your budget.

sidomania · 17th September 2007, 20:47

ok so i think i will go in for either a 2 channel amp nd a bass tube or i will buy an active sub...
which one is a better choice?
nd will the sub give gud tight bass?
nd will this result in only low frequencies?..i dnt wanna compromise on music quality..
which one will be a better option keeping this in mind...

nd also plz suggest tht wat will be the effect of connecting a 4 channel amp with the stock speakers?

sidomania · 17th September 2007, 20:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by beanstalk_230

sidomania I had a bit similar problem sometime before, got to my senses after the
panky bhai did a bit of counselling ...

but now its really clear to me, SQ is what I want (obviously apne budget wali ..

)

so wat did u settle 4 in the end?

beanstalk_230 · 17th September 2007, 23:53

in the end.. LP

BtW the end has not come as yet, going to Delhi on 19th, will decide what to buy according to my very tight budget yar, till now thought of everything - a decent amp + comp + sub, I really don't know how would I get it though

you refer to this thread if you want http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...tml#post562775

cheers

rocksterraghu · 18th September 2007, 12:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidomania

ok so i think i will go in for either a 2 channel amp nd a bass tube or i will buy an active sub...
which one is a better choice?
nd will the sub give gud tight bass?
nd will this result in only low frequencies?..i dnt wanna compromise on music quality..
which one will be a better option keeping this in mind...

nd also plz suggest tht wat will be the effect of connecting a 4 channel amp with the stock speakers?

Amplifier + Sub is a better choice.

If you want good tight bass, go for a sealed enclosure.

Yes, subwoofers are designed to produce only low frequencies. SQ will be hampered if you keep the sub level at moderate to high, since bass will start to dominate. That is why a pair of components is preferrend along with this.

Either of them will have the same effect on your setup, it is just that active will not be a good choice.

The stock speakers may not able to take the load and may rattle, forcing you to keep the sub level low and the volume in the HU high. You'll have to set the HPF and gains at moderate to low levels.

sidomania · 19th September 2007, 01:20

so its useless to go with either bass tube..sub+amp or an active sub..

wat if i connect all the 4 speakers to a 4 channel amp??
will it help?
or will it damage the speakers?

16th September 2007, 23:16	#1
sidomania Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: delhi Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	how to get more bass in my aveo?? i recently booked an aveo ls... it comes with a kenwood mp3 player(i think the 4029)...4 speakers nd two tweeters what can i do in order to get more bass? i dnt want to change the system..just want to add to it! max budget-10k plz help me out...
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17th September 2007, 00:16	#2
rocksterraghu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 1,240 Thanked: 236 Times View My Garage	Get a decent 2-channel amplifier, say 60.2 for 4-4.5k, put a GT4-12+Custom sealed enclosure for 6-6.5k, bargain with or strangle the dealer for 1k discount, use the credit card that you swore you never would for 2k and get the wiring and install covered. Total cost should be about 13k.
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17th September 2007, 00:59	#3
sidomania Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: delhi Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	thnx for the advice... ne othr suggestions?
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17th September 2007, 01:30	#4
sidomania Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: delhi Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	nd wat abt a bass tube? i guess some of thm come with a built in amp...is it advisable to have a bass tube with a built in amp in place of a sub+custom box+2 channel amp??
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17th September 2007, 14:38	#7
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	if only bass (and practically no voice/mids/music etc) is needed go in for amp+sub/tube combo ONLY. I suggest you listen to this first before you buy. If need proper sound: 1. go in for a decent 4 channel amp, replace your stock speakers with comps in the front and 6X9 in the rear. 2. when pocket allows, add a mono + sub/tube.
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17th September 2007, 15:01	#8
Shan2nu Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Hubli - Karnata Posts: 5,533 Thanked: 125 Times View My Garage	If you don't wanna upset the present setup, you can go in for an active sub. Since it comes with a built in amp, it'l save time, money and space. We've got an 8" Soomoku (hope i spelt it right) active sub in our Innova. It's prob an entry level system but it does the job pretty well. With a little tuning you can get a very soothing low frequency output from it. I think it costs around 5-5.5K if i rem right. I'm sure there a many more sub-10K active subs in the market. Shan2nu Last edited by Shan2nu : 17th September 2007 at 15:03.
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17th September 2007, 16:27	#9
beanstalk_230 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lucknow/New Delhi Posts: 263 Thanked: 45 Times	sidomania I had a bit similar problem sometime before, got to my senses after the panky bhai did a bit of counselling ... but now its really clear to me, SQ is what I want (obviously apne budget wali .. )
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17th September 2007, 20:47	#11
sidomania Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: delhi Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	ok so i think i will go in for either a 2 channel amp nd a bass tube or i will buy an active sub... which one is a better choice? nd will the sub give gud tight bass? nd will this result in only low frequencies?..i dnt wanna compromise on music quality.. which one will be a better option keeping this in mind... nd also plz suggest tht wat will be the effect of connecting a 4 channel amp with the stock speakers?
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17th September 2007, 23:53	#13
beanstalk_230 BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Lucknow/New Delhi Posts: 263 Thanked: 45 Times	in the end.. LP BtW the end has not come as yet, going to Delhi on 19th, will decide what to buy according to my very tight budget yar, till now thought of everything - a decent amp + comp + sub, I really don't know how would I get it though you refer to this thread if you want http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/ask-gu...tml#post562775 cheers
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19th September 2007, 01:20	#15
sidomania Newbie Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: delhi Posts: 8 Thanked: 0 Times	so its useless to go with either bass tube..sub+amp or an active sub.. wat if i connect all the 4 speakers to a 4 channel amp?? will it help? or will it damage the speakers?
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