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Old 2nd May 2021, 19:34   #1201
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However, can you please hide the address and name of the original customer from the attached service history since it's personally identifiable information.
I have put in a request to let me reattach the obscured version. Also, I took permission before sharing the issue and the owner himself wanted my help to identify the listing and report the incident in olx and other forums to highlight the fraud, especially since the car is still in his name, which makes him liable for the illegal resurrection or any accident involving it given the compromised chassis/mechanicals. (Read: Original owner liable to pay accident victim-Supreme Court).

Per the owner, he was cheated by the insurance company on two counts. First he was told that the transfer papers were needed to transfer the ownership to the insurance company so that they can recover some of the amount by selling the scrap or salvaging its parts, but they never transferred/cancelled the RC. Second they paid him the insurance money minus the price quoted by the scrap dealer arranged by them. However, he was left on his own to recover the amount and at the time of picking up the wreck the scrap dealer ended up paying a lesser amount.

P.S.: After being reported to olx, the used car dealer has taken down the advt. under their account but put up the same car under another anonymous account (Attached). Avoid this one and double/triple check facts before buying any used car from Richie Motor (same applies to most used car dealers though)
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P.S.: After being reported to olx, the used car dealer has taken down the advt. under their account but put up the same car under another anonymous account (Attached). Avoid this one and double/triple check facts before buying any used car from Richie Motor (same applies to most used car dealers though)
Hi Sam. Which dealer is this?
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Hi Sam. Which dealer is this?
Richie Motors (Rhythm Car World) at Sarat Bose Road. They also have a branch at Saltlake.
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Hi Guys,

I was looking around for a used automatic car, and came across a 2008 model Skoda Superb V6 TDI with only 36000 odd kms on the clock.

I know that generally one should steer clear of old German cars due to unreliable tech issues, but this isn't a common rail diesel + DSG. AFAIK, it comes with a TDI engine and a torque converter autobox.

What kind of issues crop up on cars like this? I have searched the forums, and no one seems to own one of these. Any advice on what to look out for, and whether I should look at it at all? It sees well kept, and I'd really like to have a luxo barge for hatchback money.

Expected usage: 2-3 km daily trip + occasional 300 km run to my homestead. I already own an Ecosport diesel, so this would be something that I only use sparingly.

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Hi Guys,

I was looking around for a used automatic car, and came across a 2008 model Skoda Superb V6 TDI with only 36000 odd kms on the clock.

I know that generally one should steer clear of old German cars due to unreliable tech issues, but this isn't a common rail diesel + DSG. AFAIK, it comes with a TDI engine and a torque converter autobox.

What kind of issues crop up on cars like this? I have searched the forums, and no one seems to own one of these. Any advice on what to look out for, and whether I should look at it at all? It sees well kept, and I'd really like to have a luxo barge for hatchback money.

Expected usage: 2-3 km daily trip + occasional 300 km run to my homestead. I already own an Ecosport diesel, so this would be something that I only use sparingly.
The successful second generation in India had a V6 which was a petrol 4x4 with DSG,there is a detailed ownership by Avinash_clt. It's probably the best resource you can access.

Superb models earlier than that were market duds, unless you know a good mechanic and can arrange spares.

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The successful second generation in India had a V6 which was a petrol 4x4 with DSG,there is a detailed ownership by Avinash_clt. It's probably the best resource you can access.

Superb models earlier than that were market duds, unless you know a good mechanic and can arrange spares.
Avinash_clt's car is the later 2010 model. The one I'm looking at is a 2007 V6 TDI. Not many 6 cylinders around at the time, and this one's a diesel. Boodmo site shows a V6 Petrol AT and a 2.5L TDI Manual. But this one's a 2007 diesel according to Vaahan site, and the badging at the rear says V6 TDI. The interior shots show that it's an automatic. Funny that there's almost no reviews regarding this model, even online.

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Hello friends

I have a Checy Spark with over 1L miles. I needed it only for going from "Point A to Point B" type of work, so it gave me all that it could. However, now I feel it is close to giving up.

Here is my dilema - I have set my sights to buying an EV. Just waiting for more options to come up, as many of fellow BHPians have forecasted more launches.

But I need to get a car very soon to replace the Spark. Something similar in build. size etc. So it will ONLY be a stop gap arrangement.

I am looking for a used car with budget approx 2L. I believe there are good options being sold by dealers themselves with warranty etc.

What are options available to me, in terms of models + Year? Thanks much in advance.

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Why are used car dealers hesitant on sharing the car service history? They always say “milega”. Which also translates to, “give me 10,000 Rupees and I will get the service history for you.” Is it true for German cars such as BMW or Mercedes owners don’t have the service history on them. How difficult is it these days, especially when there is always an app on the owners fingertips. I guess easy money or they have something to hide. I have still to come across a genuine used car dealer who can provide a direct and positive reply when asked for the car’s service history record.
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But I need to get a car very soon to replace the Spark. Something similar in build. size etc. So it will ONLY be a stop gap arrangement.

I am looking for a used car with budget approx 2L. I believe there are good options being sold by dealers themselves with warranty etc.

What are options available to me, in terms of models + Year? Thanks much in advance.
If it is only a stop gap arrangement, look for an option which you can sell off easily later on.

A Swift or a Wagon R or a Celerio.

If you are getting a very good deal, you may consider a Santro Zing or old i10. Both are peppy and fun to drive.

I won't advise you to buy a model that did not sell well or whose maker has exited the Indian car scene.
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Honda Brio - 2015
Guys, just a small story here.
I needed a beater for my family to help the Jeep Compass, so I was looking at this Honda Brio VX AT (from olx).
There is a dearth of automatics in my city and this one seemed like a good one, small, reliable and cute little car. Therefore I went ahead with inspection and negotiations

Went to see the car in person yesterday, inspected what I could from my eyes (knowledge from this thread). I then booked an appointment with Honda ASS for thorough check-up today.
The car was labeled clean and in very good condition.

Now that we were good with the car, I decided to go ahead with the process of acquiring the car only to come across this shocker

The guy whom I was talking to was not actually the first owner, he had bought it from another individual (a businessman from the same city) a month ago but did not do a RC transfer. He says it was because of the RTO closed during lockdown. The deal was closed with a sale letter from the first owner. This second owner drove the car for a month (3000 kms) and is now selling it as the first owner. I was not told of this earlier.
Also the payments against this car will be made to the original (first owner's account) and the first owner was okay with all this process
When I asked for the reason he said he lives in South Africa but had come back and has intended to keep the car for longer. But now he is going to SA again and so have decided on selling this. He also showed his passport and south african work permit (although it had "asylum seeker" written on it, not sure what that is).
Despite everything seeming okayish in this deal, he sounded fishy to me. And a wise man on this forum mentioned in an advice - if anything seems fishy, stay away so I did.

What do you guys think...should I have gone ahead with the purchase if the car was inspected to be near perfect? (the price was not high either?)
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Guys, just a small story here.

He also showed his passport and south african work permit (although it had "asylum seeker" written on it, not sure what that is).
Despite everything seeming okayish in this deal, he sounded fishy to me. And a wise man on this forum mentioned in an advice - if anything seems fishy, stay away so I did.

What do you guys think...should I have gone ahead with the purchase if the car was inspected to be near perfect? (the price was not high either?)
There are two aspects. Is the agent trying sell you a stolen car? And did it have any accidents or serious breakdown? Assuming you have cleared the second part, I think you shall check the following:
  1. Name of the car owner from the RTO app.
  2. Name and address of the first owner from the documents of the car.
  3. Original photo identity card of the first owner (with address) to see that he is the real owner. And meet the owner in person. The owner is supposed to be from the same city or nearby. Who will give the car to an agent located far away? If you are getting such a good deal, do take pain to travel and meet the first owner to see the original invoice of the car and owner's identity proof. The engine and chassis number on the invoice must tally with that on the car. Owner's name must tally with the invoice.
  4. If all these steps give satisfactory result, I think you can go ahead with the purchase.
  5. Now get a cancelled cheque from the owner to know the bank details.
  6. Make a small agreement (of one paragraph) that the owner is selling you the car for so much of amount. Both of you shall sign the agreement. And get the owner's signatures on the RTO ownership transfer form.
  7. Make the payment and take the custody of the car.

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There are two aspects. Is the agent trying sell you a stolen car? And did it have any accidents or serious breakdown?
Thanks for your response!

I slept on it and came up with another question!

So lets say if this second owner in his one month with the car got into something horribly wrong with the car...like a fatal accident where he caused a fatality or was involved in some malpractice like some robbery (I know this is way over thinking on my side but just thinking the possibilities) then if I buy the car today, would that be a problem for me?

Assuming that I have an agreement with the original owner that says I have the ownership/possession starting today, would any mishap in the past affect me?

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Thanks for your response!

I slept on it and came up with another question!

So lets say if this second owner in his one month with the car got into something horribly wrong with the car...like a fatal accident where he caused a fatality or was involved in some malpractice like some robbery (I know this is way over thinking on my side but just thinking the possibilities) then if I buy the car today, would that be a problem for me?

Assuming that I have an agreement with the original owner that says I have the ownership/possession starting today, would any mishap in the past affect me?
Good question, very valid.

IMO, whosoever was the owner of the car as per RTO records on the date of incidence, will be held liable. So for all incidences till today, the first owner (in whose name the car is still registered) will be held liable.

Even after you pay and get the custody of the car, the first owner will be still liable till the registration is actually transferred to your name.

This is my interpretation. Request the lawyers on the forum to advise.
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Triple check facts before buying any used car from Richie Motor (same applies to most used car dealers though)
Richie Motors ranks very high in the list of avoidable used car dealers. I have had a narrow escape some years ago when he tried to palm off a 3 year old car with 28,000 km on the odo. Turned out the car was used as a hotel cab and had run 130,000 at its last service several months earlier. A slimy operator who mostly sells WB cars to the NE buyers.
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Re: ARTICLE: How to buy a *USED* Car in India

I am currently in the market for a used Polo (Petrol) - for my wifey. It will be her first independent car and we are therefore in the need for a good solid & reliable car (for her daily commute of about 20km overall).

I am not keen on the usual Koreans & Suzuki's.

Recently came across a Polo Petrol 1.2 Highline (2016 model, 43000 km in ODO):
1) what do you guys think I should pay for it max? Is around 4.5L price worth it?
2) Any known issues of 1.2 Polo which I should be prepared for?
3) Howz the service network in Kolkata, will the service cost go thru the roof?
4) Many people around me are advising against an used VW - as expected. So I am a bit tensed to justify my decision
5) Any alternate car you guys can suggest for the purpose mentioned above?
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