Chinese Car MP3 - Will you buy it ?

gunbir · 14th March 2006, 13:21

Mithun

What car did you buy.

kgc_cool · 14th March 2006, 13:55

Hmm.. some food for thought..

It was an interesting revelation to me when I opened a Compaq PC to see most parts were manufactured in Xuang Dong, China.

I think reputed manufacturers have more stringent QA processes that enable good quality products out..

That being the case, I would definitely run a test in the shop.. and if everything seems fine, just take my chances!

4500 bucks is quite a bit to save.. and even if I made a mistake.. well.. the downside aint so bad..

HotChillyPepper · 14th March 2006, 14:12

Hi BHPians,
I would like to add few lines regarding this discussion. I m a person working in Audio / Video embedded systems for last 2 years and out of that 6 months I was in China. Few things I found out in that period of time in China with respect to Indian market is:

There are companies like TCL, Heir etc who make quality AV products and selling out all over the world. These products can be combared to any AV products with similiar price tag. You cant say they are neither cheap nor bad in quality.

But 70% of the Chinese market is flood with non-MNC small time players who will only concentrate in cutting down the price so increasae the selling quantity. Unfortunatly Our country doesnt have any regulation on importing of such kind of inferior electronic goods. So most of these small scale chinese producers are aiming our country as their target. The components used in this kind of products may not be complied to any standards, will not be tested as a whole product in real life.

Using this kind of locally assembled audio systems may harm your vehicle by Short circuits (Yes the low cost MOSFETs are bound to do that!!!!) and hence overloading the electric system. Since most of the new generation cars are equipped with ECU units, short circuits may cause drastic disorders in the Vehicle Management Systems.

Most of the branded products are internally taken care of all these issues and tested on fiel before releasing to the market( Yes...55% of a product develpment life cycle we do that.) For example when your Power Amp pull more power from battery(For playing heavy Bass punches) and there is no proper dampering circuit (Capacitors) attached, and battery is not able to supply the correct amount of current to the Amplifer, the amplifier will detect it and cut off the supply for few seconds. By the time the battery can recover from the power surge hence there is no malfunction in the internal circuits of the vehicle.

Considering all these facts I think spending another 3K is worth for anyone in this world. For 4 K you wil get a decent MP3 player with remote from Kenwood. Why do you want to spend a whole night on lonely road with your family just for the sake of saving 2-3 K ???

Sam Kapasi · 14th March 2006, 14:57

Well said HCP. And I see this is your first post here. Welcome.

navin · 14th March 2006, 15:19

Thank you HCP. As HCP said it is the quality of these products we find objectionable and not the price. If I got an "Haier 9857" that sounded, felt and worked just like the Alpine version for Rs. 3000 I'd jump at it. Sorry Alpine! :-)

s0uljah · 15th March 2006, 07:33

HCL, Welcome to the forum and you have presented your idea in a simple yet striking manner.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mithun

In the market we can see a number of Car MP3 Players and lots of taxis/old Ambis seems to be fitted with them. I've heard that sometimes you will get MP3 Players for about Rs.1500.

Yeah every darned indi-cab in bangalore has one!!

adit1329 · 15th March 2006, 21:01

why not, if the stuff looks good and sounds good it is worth it....

by the way the stuff like sony, pioneer etc that is sold in places like jc road in bangalore gets the stuff for almost the same price....these are the malaysian kits and they do last long.

HU's are sold from a range starting from 4000 rs...these are available in sp road for 2000 rs.....

i personally do not want a hi fi system in my car, i am happy with a decent sounding system...if i really want to let go i can always go home and switch on my home theater

mithun · 16th March 2006, 05:32

Thanks to HotChillyPepper for the wonderful info...

I haven't thought that much about the serious issues pertaining with the Cheap MP3 Players. So I would never recommend these kind of sleazy players to anyone.

aseem · 16th March 2006, 07:06

Just as Indian service industry is not inferior to its western counterparts, similarly chinese manufacturing industry is not inferior as well. HCP said it correctly, just becaz the product is from China doesnt mean poor quality. China has become the manufacturing hub of the world and from Lenovos to Compaq's almost all companies have manufacturing done in China. Its just our mind set, that we rather buy a product manufactured in Finland than China. If you buy a 10k MP3 player from China, you can expect it to be as good as a European player in the same price band. For 1500, what can you expect!!! Europeans cant even make a player for 1500, due to their high labor costs, at least Chinese products give options to poor people as well.

14th March 2006, 13:21	#16
gunbir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,465 Thanked: 32 Times	Mithun What car did you buy.
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14th March 2006, 13:55	#17
kgc_cool BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 53 Thanked: 6 Times	Hmm.. some food for thought.. It was an interesting revelation to me when I opened a Compaq PC to see most parts were manufactured in Xuang Dong, China. I think reputed manufacturers have more stringent QA processes that enable good quality products out.. That being the case, I would definitely run a test in the shop.. and if everything seems fine, just take my chances! 4500 bucks is quite a bit to save.. and even if I made a mistake.. well.. the downside aint so bad..
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14th March 2006, 14:12	#18
HotChillyPepper BHPian Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Bang_a_lore Posts: 628 Thanked: 289 Times View My Garage	Hi BHPians, I would like to add few lines regarding this discussion. I m a person working in Audio / Video embedded systems for last 2 years and out of that 6 months I was in China. Few things I found out in that period of time in China with respect to Indian market is: There are companies like TCL, Heir etc who make quality AV products and selling out all over the world. These products can be combared to any AV products with similiar price tag. You cant say they are neither cheap nor bad in quality. But 70% of the Chinese market is flood with non-MNC small time players who will only concentrate in cutting down the price so increasae the selling quantity. Unfortunatly Our country doesnt have any regulation on importing of such kind of inferior electronic goods. So most of these small scale chinese producers are aiming our country as their target. The components used in this kind of products may not be complied to any standards, will not be tested as a whole product in real life. Using this kind of locally assembled audio systems may harm your vehicle by Short circuits (Yes the low cost MOSFETs are bound to do that!!!!) and hence overloading the electric system. Since most of the new generation cars are equipped with ECU units, short circuits may cause drastic disorders in the Vehicle Management Systems. Most of the branded products are internally taken care of all these issues and tested on fiel before releasing to the market( Yes...55% of a product develpment life cycle we do that.) For example when your Power Amp pull more power from battery(For playing heavy Bass punches) and there is no proper dampering circuit (Capacitors) attached, and battery is not able to supply the correct amount of current to the Amplifer, the amplifier will detect it and cut off the supply for few seconds. By the time the battery can recover from the power surge hence there is no malfunction in the internal circuits of the vehicle. Considering all these facts I think spending another 3K is worth for anyone in this world. For 4 K you wil get a decent MP3 player with remote from Kenwood. Why do you want to spend a whole night on lonely road with your family just for the sake of saving 2-3 K ???
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14th March 2006, 14:57	#19
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Well said HCP. And I see this is your first post here. Welcome.
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14th March 2006, 15:19	#20
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	Thank you HCP. As HCP said it is the quality of these products we find objectionable and not the price. If I got an "Haier 9857" that sounded, felt and worked just like the Alpine version for Rs. 3000 I'd jump at it. Sorry Alpine! :-)
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15th March 2006, 21:01	#22
adit1329 BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Bangalore Posts: 346 Thanked: 3 Times	why not, if the stuff looks good and sounds good it is worth it.... by the way the stuff like sony, pioneer etc that is sold in places like jc road in bangalore gets the stuff for almost the same price....these are the malaysian kits and they do last long. HU's are sold from a range starting from 4000 rs...these are available in sp road for 2000 rs..... i personally do not want a hi fi system in my car, i am happy with a decent sounding system...if i really want to let go i can always go home and switch on my home theater
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16th March 2006, 05:32	#23
mithun BANNED Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Cochin Posts: 2,195 Thanked: 268 Times	Thanks to HotChillyPepper for the wonderful info... I haven't thought that much about the serious issues pertaining with the Cheap MP3 Players. So I would never recommend these kind of sleazy players to anyone.
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16th March 2006, 07:06	#24
aseem Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Delhi Posts: 1,730 Thanked: 441 Times	Just as Indian service industry is not inferior to its western counterparts, similarly chinese manufacturing industry is not inferior as well. HCP said it correctly, just becaz the product is from China doesnt mean poor quality. China has become the manufacturing hub of the world and from Lenovos to Compaq's almost all companies have manufacturing done in China. Its just our mind set, that we rather buy a product manufactured in Finland than China. If you buy a 10k MP3 player from China, you can expect it to be as good as a European player in the same price band. For 1500, what can you expect!!! Europeans cant even make a player for 1500, due to their high labor costs, at least Chinese products give options to poor people as well. Last edited by aseem : 16th March 2006 at 07:08.
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