Confusion--Two Amps and five speakers!!

prince85 · 27th March 2006, 20:32

I have heard that Phoenix audio(hope i spelt it right) makes lovely amp wiring kits. Viper should be knowing coz i came to know of this kit through car-touch with whom i think viper is associated

jkdas · 27th March 2006, 21:09

His budget is about 40-45k

kb100 · 27th March 2006, 22:16

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Originally Posted by jkdas

His budget is about 40-45k

That was HISTORY JK...

jkdas · 27th March 2006, 22:36

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Originally Posted by kb100

That was HISTORY JK...

okok i forgot: 60-65 now. dated 27/03

kb100 · 27th March 2006, 22:42

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Originally Posted by jkdas

okok i forgot: 60-65 now. dated 27/03

AIEEeeeeeeeeee

I am POSITIVELY SCARED opening this forum at home!!...

kb100 · 27th March 2006, 23:01

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Originally Posted by kb100

I need an education in what the DB in speakers is all about... I found, for instance, the db of JBL (forget the series) to be higher than the Hertz Energy... Therefore what happens?

Is there any thread on this subject - I am yet to come to terms with the search function here

GURUS... WHATS with the "DB" Pls??

gunbir · 28th March 2006, 01:35

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Originally Posted by kb100

GURUS... WHATS with the "DB" Pls??

KB100... here is a link that sorta answers your query... you gotta love the internet... saves typing...

http://www.axiomaudio.com/power.html

Well, in short... the JBL GTO1202D is 93dB sensitive and the Hertz ES300D is 97dB sensitive. In theory, all things being equal, the Hertz will play louder... However, while loudness is important, it is suggested you hear and choose the sub you like better. You may like the sound of a 90dB sub better than a 97dB or vice versa. So while sensitivity is an important consideration, let it not be your only one.

kb100 · 28th March 2006, 09:41

Thanks Gunbir...but what about regular speakers??

kb100 · 28th March 2006, 09:42

Thanks Gunbir... Will go thru that site - But I am more interested in that statement Navin made about he db of the regular speakers - not the Sub... Something about "sensitivity" .. Does it work in the same fashion with regular speakers too??

kb100 · 28th March 2006, 10:11

OHMIGAWD !!! .. read that article ... Set my RMSs in place - Double for every 3db Jump... 10times for a 10db!!.. wow!!

.... Makes sense why most of the super high-fidelity amps are in the range of 60-100RMS tops..

navin · 28th March 2006, 10:15

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Originally Posted by viper

You can try Esoteric Audio, Kimber Kable and Stinger as well.

KB, Kimber, VdH, EA, etc.. will run you out of house and home. Sam even knows someone who used Tara labs in his 118NE. :-)

The JBL kit or Monster Interlink Jr or Streetwires etc. will do fine. What you need is a clean signal from from the HU to the amps.

navin · 28th March 2006, 11:00

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Originally Posted by kb100

OHMIGAWD !!! .. read that article ... Set my RMSs in place - Double for every 3db Jump... 10times for a 10db!!.. wow!!

.... Makes sense why most of the super high-fidelity amps are in the range of 60-100RMS.

KB wait till you get a look at the Fletcher-Munson curves! LOL
http://www.webervst.com/fm.htm

Bass&Trouble · 28th March 2006, 14:36

The Alpine 545 is 300W rms at 12 V. That isn't extraordinarily higher than the 275 which is about 270W rms at 12V. Which is why your money is better spent on a cheaper 4-ch from Alpine. But if you are hell bent on spending the moolah on the 545 ($650, gosh), please go ahead.

For the system in concern, I think your total budget for cabling should be about 7000.

Breakup

1. 3 x RCA cables @ 1000 each: Rs. 3000
2. Power wiring kit incl fusing & dist block: Rs. 2000
3. Approx 15-20m speaker cabling @100/m: Rs. 2000

Don't waste money buying ridiculously expensive brands like Kimber. Let it be proportionate to the amount you're spending on your other gear.

navin · 28th March 2006, 14:53

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Originally Posted by Bass&Trouble

1. 3 x RCA cables @ 1000 each: Rs. 3000
2. Power wiring kit incl fusing & dist block: Rs. 2000
3. Approx 15-20m speaker cabling @100/m: Rs. 2000

Don't waste money buying ridiculously expensive brands like Kimber. Let it be proportionate to the amount you're spending on your other gear.

I agree 200% with B&T.
Both Monster Jr. and Streewires are available for about Rs. 1200 per pair. It should suffice.

Kimber and co are a sheer waste in the car.
The prices B&T has given are spot on.

Bass&Trouble · 28th March 2006, 15:52

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Originally Posted by navin

I agree 200% with B&T.
Both Monster Jr. and Streewires are available for about Rs. 1200 per pair. It should suffice.

Kimber and co are a sheer waste in the car.
The prices B&T has given are spot on.

He He. Navin, sometimes I think me n you are like 2 drivers playing the same frequency band.

Anyone looking for a nice pair of front speakers...we're going cheap (or atleast I am

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27th March 2006, 20:32	#16
prince85 BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 971 Thanked: 123 Times	I have heard that Phoenix audio(hope i spelt it right) makes lovely amp wiring kits. Viper should be knowing coz i came to know of this kit through car-touch with whom i think viper is associated
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27th March 2006, 21:09	#17
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	His budget is about 40-45k
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28th March 2006, 09:41	#23
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Thanks Gunbir...but what about regular speakers?? Last edited by kb100 : 28th March 2006 at 09:51.
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28th March 2006, 09:42	#24
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Thanks Gunbir... Will go thru that site - But I am more interested in that statement Navin made about he db of the regular speakers - not the Sub... Something about "sensitivity" .. Does it work in the same fashion with regular speakers too??
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28th March 2006, 10:11	#25
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	OHMIGAWD !!! .. read that article ... Set my RMSs in place - Double for every 3db Jump... 10times for a 10db!!.. wow!! .... Makes sense why most of the super high-fidelity amps are in the range of 60-100RMS tops..
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28th March 2006, 14:36	#28
Bass&Trouble Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Bombay Posts: 2,754 Thanked: 124 Times	The Alpine 545 is 300W rms at 12 V. That isn't extraordinarily higher than the 275 which is about 270W rms at 12V. Which is why your money is better spent on a cheaper 4-ch from Alpine. But if you are hell bent on spending the moolah on the 545 ($650, gosh), please go ahead. For the system in concern, I think your total budget for cabling should be about 7000. Breakup 1. 3 x RCA cables @ 1000 each: Rs. 3000 2. Power wiring kit incl fusing & dist block: Rs. 2000 3. Approx 15-20m speaker cabling @100/m: Rs. 2000 Don't waste money buying ridiculously expensive brands like Kimber. Let it be proportionate to the amount you're spending on your other gear.
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