Verna SX : ICE options for ~75K

navin · 19th June 2012, 12:40

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Originally Posted by maverick236

1 quick question - Which is the best place to have the sound processor setup? Any other last minute checks or tips would be greatly appreciated

Maverick,

I dont know anyone in Hyderabad so I really cant help there.

As far as tips and tricks are concerned for old guys like audio is sorta intuitive we dont have a note book so I dont know if I can list of tips and tricks. After 35+ years of decoding audio problems we old men just do it by instinctively. When it sounds good it is good.

maverick236 · 20th June 2012, 10:35

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Originally Posted by navin

Maverick,

I dont know anyone in Hyderabad so I really cant help there.

As far as tips and tricks are concerned for old guys like audio is sorta intuitive we dont have a note book so I dont know if I can list of tips and tricks. After 35+ years of decoding audio problems we old men just do it by instinctively. When it sounds good it is good.

Navin - When I asked you place to set it up, I meant the Audio processor in the car. Where do i get it fixed in the car? Should i get it fixed under the seat or near the kick panel or boot. what would be the ideal location?

navin · 20th June 2012, 16:19

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Originally Posted by maverick236

Should i get it fixed under the seat or near the kick panel or boot. what would be the ideal location?

In the boot. Next to the amps. The idea is to keep the length of the RCA cables to an aboslute minimum.

maverick236 · 25th June 2012, 17:10

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Originally Posted by navin

In the boot. Next to the amps. The idea is to keep the length of the RCA cables to an aboslute minimum.

The 1st phase of installation started yesterday.
Done with all the basics - Amp, Comps, Wiring, Coax, Sub etc..
Unable to configure the Alpine pxa h800. It was not detecting. :(
The tech from Alpine is expected in a couple of days to help me out. Anything that we might be missing?

Sounds decent with the Focals Solid 4 and 165VB..
Currently have the Focal 12" Sub (SP30) but i feel its bass is not as tight as it was with my JBL CS1204 B... Could be the setting or is it the sub?
If its the sub, can I try something for a tigthter bass without having to use the Monoblock ....

Suggestion needed

DerAlte · 25th June 2012, 18:44

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Originally Posted by maverick236

... Alpine pxa h800. It was not detecting ...

What was it not detecting?

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Originally Posted by maverick236

... Focal 12" Sub (SP30) but i feel its bass is not as tight as it was with my JBL CS1204 B... Could be the setting or is it the sub? ...

Could be the box! Just as a test, stuff a small pillow or cushion in the box. If the bass feels tighter, the box is perhaps too big. I am assuming a sealed box.

maverick236 · 26th June 2012, 09:13

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

What was it not detecting?

There was no sound output thou connections were given as per instructions & also the setup through laptop to configure was failing.

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Originally Posted by DerAlte

Could be the box! Just as a test, stuff a small pillow or cushion in the box. If the bass feels tighter, the box is perhaps too big. I am assuming a sealed box.

It is not a sealed box. Its ported.
Focal SB P 30, car audio hifi subwoofers to customize your car sound system.
I understand that ported enclosures are not as tight as sealed ones but could not go for a powerful sub as it is not being powered by a monoblock but anything which is close to my prev sealed sub JBL CS1204 is also good.
The other Question that I have is - Could it be the separation between the boot and passenger cabin killing that tight punch?

navin · 26th June 2012, 09:49

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Originally Posted by maverick236

The 1st phase of installation started yesterday.
Done with all the basics - Amp, Comps, Wiring, Coax, Sub etc..
Unable to configure the Alpine pxa h800. It was not detecting. :(
The tech from Alpine is expected in a couple of days to help me out. Anything that we might be missing?
If its the sub, can I try something for a tigthter bass without having to use the Monoblock ....:

Reset the Alpine.

Stuff a old cotton sock in the port of the subwoofer box.

DerAlte · 26th June 2012, 10:48

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Originally Posted by maverick236

... Could it be the separation between the boot and passenger cabin killing that tight punch?

No, that will only reduce the intensity slightly (gain would have been set appropriately), but not change the basic boomy nature. As Navin said, try stuffing some old socks, rolled tightly, into the port.

maverick236 · 26th June 2012, 10:58

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Originally Posted by navin

Reset the Alpine.

Stuff a old cotton sock in the port of the subwoofer box.

Tried resetting the Alpine. No luck.
Regarding the cotton sock, I'll try and see if it works.
Also reg the sub, the dealer gave me an option to change the sub if not satisfied. kindly let me know if any other sub could also be recommended.

1 more question Navin Sir - Since I am using only the 4 ch amp that feeds the front comps and the sub and the dsp talks only to the amp, the rears are being fed by the HU. I just want to get rid of them but I would love to have a fill atleast. Anything suggestions on this please.

navin · 26th June 2012, 15:28

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Originally Posted by maverick236

Tried resetting the Alpine. No luck.

Regarding the cotton sock, I'll try and see if it works.

Also reg the sub, the dealer gave me an option to change the sub if not satisfied. kindly let me know if any other sub could also be recommended.

1 more question Navin Sir - Since I am using only the 4 ch amp that feeds the front comps and the sub and the dsp talks only to the amp, the rears are being fed by the HU. I just want to get rid of them but I would love to have a fill atleast. Anything suggestions on this please.

If you want rear fills to be sent from the Alpine you will need an amplifier for the rear speakers. The other choice would be to get a monoblock for the sub and use the 4 ch. for front and rear.

Try the Morel for subwoofer.

WIthout seeing the Alpine there is little we can fo from here. These gadgets are very complicated. It ixs best to let the Apline guys fic it.

maverick236 · 26th June 2012, 22:02

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Originally Posted by navin

Stuff a old cotton sock in the port of the subwoofer box.

The sock thing worked to an extent. Feels a bit tighter now.

maverick236 · 10th July 2012, 17:09

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Originally Posted by navin

If you want rear fills to be sent from the Alpine you will need an amplifier for the rear speakers. The other choice would be to get a monoblock for the sub and use the 4 ch. for front and rear.

I observed a strange thing. Whenever I accelarate, there is a swishh sound that is proportional to the rev. Not heard when played with a high volume. However, it is quite irritating at low volumes. Tried checking with the installer, he suggested me to use some noise cancelling device and it happens for some of the mpfi engines.

Is is true? never heard of it before.
Any inputs on these please

DerAlte · 10th July 2012, 19:40

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... Whenever I accelarate, there is a swishh sound that is proportional to the rev. ...

Do you mean to say when you are driving steady (neither accelerating nor decelerating) the 'swishh' is not present?

First suspects: grounding of amp, and RCA cables not good enough.

maverick236 · 11th July 2012, 18:21

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Do you mean to say when you are driving steady (neither accelerating nor decelerating) the 'swishh' is not present?

First suspects: grounding of amp, and RCA cables not good enough.

If I have my foot on the accelarator irrespective of the whether its steady speed or acceleration, there is definitely that sound.

I am using Streetwires for the wiring... Arent they good enough ?

DerAlte · 11th July 2012, 18:45

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Originally Posted by maverick236

... I am using Streetwires for the wiring... Arent they good enough ? ...

Don't go by brand name. That is no guarantee, considering most of them are just stamped brands with no R&D investment or quality improvement program in place.

1. Ask your installer to redo the amp grounding, this time with 2 copper washers and scraping the grounding point

2. Just check and see if a different pair of RCA cables works better. And while you are at it, check if there is any 12V cable running beside the RCA cables