Excellent ICE setup for ALTO! with pics!

speedzak · 15th May 2006, 19:43

Guys,
After surfing around a lot (internet, shops & gurus) for an ICE upgrade for my humble ALTO, I finally did it last week. Here's the final config:

OWNED EARLIER
PIONEER 7750 HEAD UNIT
ALPINE SPA170 6" CO-AXIAL SPEAKERS (REAR)
ALPINE 4" CO-AXIAL SPEAKERS (FRONT)
BLAUPUNKT VELOCITY VXB12 REFERENCE SUBWOOFER
BLAUPUNKT MPA4 4CHANNEL AMPLIFIER http://www.blaupunkt.com.sg/download/en-GB_MPA4oi.pdf

NEWLY PURCHASED
ALPINE V12DIGITAL M605 CLASS D MONOBLOCK AMPILFIER
BLAUPUNKT VELOCITY 5.25" COMPONENT SPEAKERS (FRONT)
BLAUPUNKT VELOCITY 6"X9" CO-AXIAL SPEAKERS WITH CROSSOVERS (NOT INSTALLED)
MONSTER CABLE WIRING AND CONNECTORS
MONSTER CABLE DUAL FUSES WITH CIRCUIT BREAKERS FOR POWER SUPPLY

I was very much disappointed with my earlier setup. I used my blau amp earlier to power my sub bridging all the channels, My rear speakers (SPA170s) were bolted onto the boot door and front speakers were kept in dash wells near the windscreen and these all were powered from the Head unit. And the bass it produced was dreadful as it just never gave enough punch and sounded lifeless. Only the highs sounded good. Vibrations produced were too much as the rear speakers were in the boot door.

I did a lot of querying in various forums, many shops, lot of audio experts etc.. And thanks to them all (especially gunbir etc..) I came upto a conclusion to change my AMP and SUB. I sold my BLAU amp and my VXB12 Sub to a nearby friend. He was very much tight in his pocket and after waiting for a month for the payment, I decided to take my stuff back and I did so (Now I am glad I did'nt sell those).

I went to and audio expert here in my town and presented him my scenario again. I had done this plenty of times earlier too but he was quite hesistant to work on my ALTO, and used to recommend me to buy a big car to suit my demands. I spoke to him again and offered him to take this as a challenge and he accepeted.

Speaker installation
He made a nice padding for my front doors using MDF, installed the velocity woofers into it.
Left

Right

And the tweeters were installed in the A pillar.

For the rear, I wanted to install Blau 6X9s. But could'nt find a suitable place for doing it and I did'nt want the soundstage to be shifted behind also. So, we decided to stick with the alpine co-axials. Those were placed in the rear doors.

The Alpine SP 1003 4" co-axials are there in the dash wells but I disconnected it after experimenting with the sound. It sounds very high pitched with those connected.

SubWoofer installation

Subwoofer was kept in the boot as before and the connecting cables were changed to monster cable.

From inside the car:

Boot open:

He also put a blue neon light wire inside the glass enclosure surrounding the SUB. It pulses according to sound. Looks really cool ! !

Amplifier installation

The Alpine 605 monoblock amp was fitted beneath the driver seat and carpets were arranged to make airflow to the fans. The Amp has a hood which itself is a protective cover from dust and other nuisances. The controls are fully digital and no fooling up with the settings here. It also has a blue backlit digital display which looks really cool.

The Blaupunkt MPA4 was placed under the passenger seat and again the carpets were arranged to let air flow outside. The Blaupunkt logo lights up when the amp is switched on.

Sound proofing and dampening

Now, here comes the most interesting and difficult part of the install. If any of you have tried pushing the volume in a normal ALTO, you'll understand what I mean. The car is very feeble in many parts and those areas will vibrate horribly with subwoofer bass. Even the doors and doorpads vibrate too. I wanted this to stop and did a lot of homework to find a good solution. I thought of fibre, dampening sprays and Dynamat. Finally as I could'nt get Dynamat Extreme locally, I went for WURTH. My audio man installed it in every door, C pillars, roof and some parts of the floor too. It took us a lot of effort doing so. especially the C pillar vibrations were very difficult to put off. Once it was done and my system was powered on, I knew it was completely transformed to a different animal. It was sweet sound coming all around. it felt as if the sound was coming from a live band. Each instrument was to be heard!

I could'nt get any pictures of the sound dampening as I completely forgot about it before finishing the install. (Talk about getting involved in the work).

Guys from Ernakulam and around are welcome to pour in and have a look.

Special thanks to GUNBIR. His INNOVA install pics helped me a lot.

Bye for now,

balenopower · 15th May 2006, 19:57

Woooow..thts a lot of sound mate....amazing set up u got there...care to share how much it set u back by...???

gunbir · 15th May 2006, 20:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedzak

Special thanks to GUNBIR. His INNOVA install pics helped me a lot.

You're welcome dude. Thats what we're here for. We've used those velocity speakers, they are nice. And Im sure the blau bandpass sub gives great bass. I used to have one of those around 2001. Are these still around?

Install looks great. Great move damping your car. How much did you spend on the damping. Im sure the others would like to know.

Enjoy...

aZa · 15th May 2006, 21:04

Heyyy nice install !!! is that the power window control on the front box???

kb100 · 15th May 2006, 21:12

Hey./.. Looks good... Must sound good too!!..And yes... how much wurth did you end up using... and how much did it cost you...LAstly... Who is the installer.. nary a mention.. secret??

Nagaraj · 15th May 2006, 21:46

Thats a great install. The set up is really good. Congrats...

______________

Nagaraj

swale84 · 15th May 2006, 22:12

hey! thats an awesome setup!!
I've been thinking about juicing up the ice setup in my car as well for some time now, this has really inspired me!!! I'm currently really dissapointed with my setup, its a real mash, speakers have lost their punch. anyway this is about you, so cheers man, enjoy the music!!!!!

amit_sound · 15th May 2006, 22:39

wow... Nice and clean. Great job!!!

Apline amp looks MEAN!!!

low_bass_makker · 15th May 2006, 22:41

This can also said like -> Good Quality Install. (GQI)

sidharth_j · 15th May 2006, 23:27

Buddy,

Thats a great install!.. congratulations :-)

By the way, how much did the damping costs come out to be?

jesal · 16th May 2006, 01:06

boy u have spent spent spent on an alto very nicely that too i must add, whats the whole setup worth like, i could not think of owning such a system in such a car because id be scared someone would nick it, and im saying this from experience 2 times. hoping u have a good good good autocop with ya.

speedzak · 16th May 2006, 03:26

Thank you Guys!! And Thanks a lot for all those nice words.

Regarding the cost, It is around 1L! for the whole setup including labour charges. But, I'm happy it gave me satisfaction after all!

The sound dampening I used cost me 10 grands including labour (it was quiet a lot of job as I experienced it).

Regarding the person who did the installation, His name is Zuhemi. He is one of the 3 brothers who run an auto accessories shop in our town named EMPEROR. I should say: A guy who lives on audio installs. Pl check out his Honda city for more info. 4 LCDs, 10 component woofers, 10 tweeters, centre speaker, 2 15" Subwoofers, 4 Capacitors, Head unit with touch screeen, 2 4channel amps, 2 monoblock amps etc..
And he uses it for his daily use (other than the boot, functionality is not hampered)

I was earlier put off by their selling style and was many a times decided not to go to them, but I couldn't find a better place around or had the time to drive my car to Mumbai etc... So, I made friends with these guys first and slowly I got him to do this installation for me. And he was quiet helpful and did'nt mind me pouring in suggestions.

Thanx once again,

kb100 · 16th May 2006, 11:36

ZUHEIMI!!... Should have guessed!1.. That guy is Good!... Perhaps the best south of Chennai! (dont want to get flamed

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Mugen_Power · 16th May 2006, 11:53

Hey speedzak,

Nice Install You Have Got..

Cheers,
Mugen_Power.

jkdas · 16th May 2006, 12:08

Good one dude. Will check it next time I visit Cochin.

Guys, any news abt SAm?

15th May 2006, 19:43	#1
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Excellent ICE setup for ALTO! with pics! Guys, After surfing around a lot (internet, shops & gurus) for an ICE upgrade for my humble ALTO, I finally did it last week. Here's the final config: OWNED EARLIER PIONEER 7750 HEAD UNIT ALPINE SPA170 6" CO-AXIAL SPEAKERS (REAR) ALPINE 4" CO-AXIAL SPEAKERS (FRONT) BLAUPUNKT VELOCITY VXB12 REFERENCE SUBWOOFER BLAUPUNKT MPA4 4CHANNEL AMPLIFIER http://www.blaupunkt.com.sg/download/en-GB_MPA4oi.pdf NEWLY PURCHASED ALPINE V12DIGITAL M605 CLASS D MONOBLOCK AMPILFIER BLAUPUNKT VELOCITY 5.25" COMPONENT SPEAKERS (FRONT) BLAUPUNKT VELOCITY 6"X9" CO-AXIAL SPEAKERS WITH CROSSOVERS (NOT INSTALLED) MONSTER CABLE WIRING AND CONNECTORS MONSTER CABLE DUAL FUSES WITH CIRCUIT BREAKERS FOR POWER SUPPLY I was very much disappointed with my earlier setup. I used my blau amp earlier to power my sub bridging all the channels, My rear speakers (SPA170s) were bolted onto the boot door and front speakers were kept in dash wells near the windscreen and these all were powered from the Head unit. And the bass it produced was dreadful as it just never gave enough punch and sounded lifeless. Only the highs sounded good. Vibrations produced were too much as the rear speakers were in the boot door. I did a lot of querying in various forums, many shops, lot of audio experts etc.. And thanks to them all (especially gunbir etc..) I came upto a conclusion to change my AMP and SUB. I sold my BLAU amp and my VXB12 Sub to a nearby friend. He was very much tight in his pocket and after waiting for a month for the payment, I decided to take my stuff back and I did so (Now I am glad I did'nt sell those). I went to and audio expert here in my town and presented him my scenario again. I had done this plenty of times earlier too but he was quite hesistant to work on my ALTO, and used to recommend me to buy a big car to suit my demands. I spoke to him again and offered him to take this as a challenge and he accepeted. Speaker installation He made a nice padding for my front doors using MDF, installed the velocity woofers into it. Left Right And the tweeters were installed in the A pillar. For the rear, I wanted to install Blau 6X9s. But could'nt find a suitable place for doing it and I did'nt want the soundstage to be shifted behind also. So, we decided to stick with the alpine co-axials. Those were placed in the rear doors. The Alpine SP 1003 4" co-axials are there in the dash wells but I disconnected it after experimenting with the sound. It sounds very high pitched with those connected. SubWoofer installation Subwoofer was kept in the boot as before and the connecting cables were changed to monster cable. From inside the car: Boot open: He also put a blue neon light wire inside the glass enclosure surrounding the SUB. It pulses according to sound. Looks really cool ! ! Amplifier installation The Alpine 605 monoblock amp was fitted beneath the driver seat and carpets were arranged to make airflow to the fans. The Amp has a hood which itself is a protective cover from dust and other nuisances. The controls are fully digital and no fooling up with the settings here. It also has a blue backlit digital display which looks really cool. The Blaupunkt MPA4 was placed under the passenger seat and again the carpets were arranged to let air flow outside. The Blaupunkt logo lights up when the amp is switched on. Sound proofing and dampening Now, here comes the most interesting and difficult part of the install. If any of you have tried pushing the volume in a normal ALTO, you'll understand what I mean. The car is very feeble in many parts and those areas will vibrate horribly with subwoofer bass. Even the doors and doorpads vibrate too. I wanted this to stop and did a lot of homework to find a good solution. I thought of fibre, dampening sprays and Dynamat. Finally as I could'nt get Dynamat Extreme locally, I went for WURTH. My audio man installed it in every door, C pillars, roof and some parts of the floor too. It took us a lot of effort doing so. especially the C pillar vibrations were very difficult to put off. Once it was done and my system was powered on, I knew it was completely transformed to a different animal. It was sweet sound coming all around. it felt as if the sound was coming from a live band. Each instrument was to be heard! I could'nt get any pictures of the sound dampening as I completely forgot about it before finishing the install. (Talk about getting involved in the work). Guys from Ernakulam and around are welcome to pour in and have a look. Special thanks to GUNBIR. His INNOVA install pics helped me a lot. Bye for now,
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15th May 2006, 19:57	#2
balenopower BHPian Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Bombay Posts: 957 Thanked: 465 Times View My Garage	Woooow..thts a lot of sound mate....amazing set up u got there...care to share how much it set u back by...???
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15th May 2006, 21:04	#4
aZa Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Noida / Delhi Posts: 1,595 Thanked: 21 Times View My Garage	Heyyy nice install !!! is that the power window control on the front box???
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15th May 2006, 21:12	#5
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	Hey./.. Looks good... Must sound good too!!..And yes... how much wurth did you end up using... and how much did it cost you...LAstly... Who is the installer.. nary a mention.. secret??
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15th May 2006, 21:46	#6
Nagaraj BHPian Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 34 Thanked: 3 Times	Thats a great install. The set up is really good. Congrats... ______________ Nagaraj
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15th May 2006, 22:12	#7
swale84 BHPian Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Pune Posts: 459 Thanked: 9 Times	hey! thats an awesome setup!! I've been thinking about juicing up the ice setup in my car as well for some time now, this has really inspired me!!! I'm currently really dissapointed with my setup, its a real mash, speakers have lost their punch. anyway this is about you, so cheers man, enjoy the music!!!!!
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15th May 2006, 22:39	#8
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	wow... Nice and clean. Great job!!! Apline amp looks MEAN!!!
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15th May 2006, 22:41	#9
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	This can also said like -> Good Quality Install. (GQI)
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15th May 2006, 23:27	#10
sidharth_j BHPian Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Sydney, AU Posts: 139 Thanked: 36 Times View My Garage	Buddy, Thats a great install!.. congratulations :-) By the way, how much did the damping costs come out to be?
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16th May 2006, 01:06	#11
jesal BANNED Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 2,323 Thanked: 13 Times View My Garage	boy u have spent spent spent on an alto very nicely that too i must add, whats the whole setup worth like, i could not think of owning such a system in such a car because id be scared someone would nick it, and im saying this from experience 2 times. hoping u have a good good good autocop with ya.
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16th May 2006, 03:26	#12
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	Thank you Guys!! And Thanks a lot for all those nice words. Regarding the cost, It is around 1L! for the whole setup including labour charges. But, I'm happy it gave me satisfaction after all! The sound dampening I used cost me 10 grands including labour (it was quiet a lot of job as I experienced it). Regarding the person who did the installation, His name is Zuhemi. He is one of the 3 brothers who run an auto accessories shop in our town named EMPEROR. I should say: A guy who lives on audio installs. Pl check out his Honda city for more info. 4 LCDs, 10 component woofers, 10 tweeters, centre speaker, 2 15" Subwoofers, 4 Capacitors, Head unit with touch screeen, 2 4channel amps, 2 monoblock amps etc.. And he uses it for his daily use (other than the boot, functionality is not hampered) I was earlier put off by their selling style and was many a times decided not to go to them, but I couldn't find a better place around or had the time to drive my car to Mumbai etc... So, I made friends with these guys first and slowly I got him to do this installation for me. And he was quiet helpful and did'nt mind me pouring in suggestions. Thanx once again,
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16th May 2006, 11:36	#13
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	ZUHEIMI!!... Should have guessed!1.. That guy is Good!... Perhaps the best south of Chennai! (dont want to get flamed )
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16th May 2006, 11:53	#14
Mugen_Power Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Gujarat 03 Posts: 1,302 Thanked: 18 Times	Hey speedzak, Nice Install You Have Got.. Cheers, Mugen_Power.
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16th May 2006, 12:08	#15
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Good one dude. Will check it next time I visit Cochin. Guys, any news abt SAm?
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