Polk Momo C 500.1 Mono Block AMP

freakrz · 17th May 2006, 02:48

hi..guys ..i am looking for an amp to power up my alpine SWR 1242 D Sub in my swift...i earlier checked on alpine MRP M450 and JL 1200e Amps..but now i have got a better deal on the polk c.500.1 mono block amp.

the specs for the sub are..

Power Handling

* • Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 1500W
* • Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 500W

General

* • Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp
* • Spider Material : Nomex
* • Frequency Response : 23Hz - 500Hz

the specs for the amp are

Power

Channels 1 MonoBlock
Total Dynamic Power (all ch. driven) 975 watts

14.4 Volts RMS Not Bridged @ 1kHz
4 Ohms 350 watts x 1
2 Ohms 500 watts x 1
Electrical

Signal-to-noise (Referenced to rated power) > 105 dBA

Remote Gain 0 to -30dB

Input Impedance > 10k Ohms

Output Impedance < 0.02 Ohms

Overall Frequency Response (-3 dB Points) < 10Hz to 200Hz

Protection circuitry Power and ground reversal, Thermal and Short, Current

Overdraw and Low Impedance Protection with auto stand-by mode

Filter Settings

Subsonic Filter 24dB/Octave @ 15Hz

Low Pass Filter frequency 30Hz to 200Hz

Low Pass Filter slope 12 or 24dB/Octave

I would like to know if this amp would be a better alternative to the alpine MRP M450 / JL 1200e.

amit_sound · 17th May 2006, 10:44

hi,

How much is the amp costing??, Is it a class D mono amp?

navin · 17th May 2006, 11:05

http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_amps.php?amp_id=257
http://www.alpine-europe.com/content...-AMPLIFIER.htm

the momo amp puts out 500W at 2 ohms v/s 275 for the JL as per above links. The Alpine puts out 400W but has one confusing spec.
"Per channel into 4 ohms: 220W x 1 (1% THD)
Per channel into 2 ohms: 400W x 1
Brigded 4 ohms: 600W x 1 "

how does one bridge a mono amp! ???

Autophile · 17th May 2006, 12:25

Polk Audio amplifier is good, the amps equivalent and comparable to Polk is JL Slash Series 500/1 and Alpine V12 Series MRD-M605. Not the lower end ones.

low_bass_makker · 17th May 2006, 12:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Brigded 4 ohms: 600W x 1 "
how does one bridge a mono amp! ???

Navin ji it is a typo on the alpine europe part

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76BDcGG...120&I=107C5001
http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...model=MRP-M450
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_amps.php?amp_id=257

U can go for the polk as it the most powerful in all the three. Also the S/n ratio is better than alpine and jl is a ab class . rest it is ur money use it where do u like.

freakrz · 19th May 2006, 00:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by amit_sound

hi,

How much is the amp costing??, Is it a class D mono amp?

yes its a class D amp and its costing around 349$...

freakrz · 19th May 2006, 00:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

Navin ji it is a typo on the alpine europe part

http://www.crutchfield.com/S-76BDcGG...120&I=107C5001
http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/product...model=MRP-M450
http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_amps.php?amp_id=257

U can go for the polk as it the most powerful in all the three. Also the S/n ratio is better than alpine and jl is a ab class . rest it is ur money use it where do u like.

Thanx for your advice...!

how would you compare the alpine MRP M650 with the polk..the alpine is costing around 200$ and its specs are below..

i would be saving 150$ if i go for this one..only if its best suited for the sub rather than the polk...

SPECIFICATIONS

CEA-2006 Power Rating

* • CEA-2006 Power Rating (40hm@14.4V = 1%THD+N), S/N 65dBA (Ref. 1W into 4Ohm): 400W x 1

RMS Power (at 14.4V THD+N, 20Hz-20kHz)

* • Per channel into 4 ohms: 400W x 1 (0.08% THD)
* • Per channel into 2 ohms: 600W x 1

Bass Engine® Sound Tuning

* • Crossover Frequency : 50Hz-200Hz,-24dB-oct (LP)
* • Subsonic Filter (Fixed): 15Hz
* • Bass EQ Frequency (Fixed): 50Hz 0 to +12dB

Dimensions

* • Heat Sink (WxHxD) in: 11-1/64" x 9-31/64" x 2-23/64"
* • Heat Sink (WxHxD) mm: 280mm x 241mm x 60mm
* • Foot Print (WxHxD) in: 12-7/8" x 9-31/64" x 2-23/64"
* • Foot Print (WxHxD) mm: 327mm x 241mm x 60mm

General

* • Power Requirements: 14.4V DC (11V to 16V)
* • Fuse Type: 30A x 2
* • Frequency Response: 20Hz - 200Hz (+3/-3dB)
* • Signal to Noise (S/N): 90dBA (Reference to Rated Power)
* • Input Sensitivity (For Rated Power): 0.2V to 4.0V (1.0 at Center Detent)
* • Input Impedance: 10k Ohm
* • Speaker Impedance: 4 or 2 ohm

navin · 19th May 2006, 10:25

Lets get this straight

The Alpine 605 is costing $200 and puts out 600W at 2 ohms The Polk cost $350 and puts out 500W at 2ohms (@ 14.4V). I dont see a question.

panky12345 · 19th May 2006, 22:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Lets get this straight

The Alpine 605 is costing $200 and puts out 600W at 2 ohms The Polk cost $350 and puts out 500W at 2ohms (@ 14.4V). I dont see a question.

alpine MRD 605 for 200 $?? i doubt sir....even ebay is offering it for $ 260 +

freakrz · 20th May 2006, 00:00

i got a deal for alpine MRD M605 for $230 thats the best i have ever found online....but when i checkd the MRD M650 the RMS and some other specs seems to be same except 605 is a V12...what is the actual difference except for the pricing...

freakrz · 20th May 2006, 00:02

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

Lets get this straight

The Alpine 605 is costing $200 and puts out 600W at 2 ohms The Polk cost $350 and puts out 500W at 2ohms (@ 14.4V). I dont see a question.

its not alpine MRD-M605 ...its the 2006 alpine MRP-M650... i guess its a new model..

panky12345 · 20th May 2006, 02:52

its here, http://www.crutchfield.com/S-L3fMZTC...0&I=500MRPM650

it says its a V class amplifier, i dunno whass the diff between V and V12 series thou.

i dont see much of a difference between the PM and Alpine except the brand name and price tag!

navin · 20th May 2006, 06:43

Alpine V12 amps allow you to tune the amp from some Alpine HU but you need an expensive connector cable to do that.

Beyond that I think there is little difference. The 2 amps weigh about the same. (3.7 v/s 3.9 kg).

from Alpine's website
"Extensive control doesn’t mean much if you have to crawl under the hood or take your equipment apart to do it. Amplifier Link lets you make comprehensive sound adjustments to all the V12 AccuClass-D amplifiers in your system — up to eight of them — directly from the head unit. A total of 11 parameters can be adjusted, including Digital Time Correction, Crossover and Parametric EQ. Amp temperature, voltage and current are even shown on the head unit display, and each amp can be named for easy identification."

here the link
http://www.alpine-europe.com/content...-AMPLIFIER.htm

freakrz · 20th May 2006, 21:56

thanx navin...right now my setup consists of alpine 9852 HU,Alpine SVR 1242D type R sub, polk momo db6750 components and polk momo mmc690 coax speakers..and if i get the alpine mrv m650,since i m just lookin to power my sub ...would this amp be good enough,instead of mrd m 605.in terms of powering the sub and pricing...

panky12345 · 2nd June 2006, 20:50

can somebody give me the RMS @ 12 V and current drawn by Alpine MRP-M650?

17th May 2006, 02:48	#1
freakrz BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Visakhapatnam Posts: 176 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	Polk Momo C 500.1 Mono Block AMP hi..guys ..i am looking for an amp to power up my alpine SWR 1242 D Sub in my swift...i earlier checked on alpine MRP M450 and JL 1200e Amps..but now i have got a better deal on the polk c.500.1 mono block amp. the specs for the sub are.. Power Handling * • Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 1500W * • Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 500W General * • Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp * • Spider Material : Nomex * • Frequency Response : 23Hz - 500Hz the specs for the amp are Power Channels 1 MonoBlock Total Dynamic Power (all ch. driven) 975 watts 14.4 Volts RMS Not Bridged @ 1kHz 4 Ohms 350 watts x 1 2 Ohms 500 watts x 1 Electrical Signal-to-noise (Referenced to rated power) > 105 dBA Remote Gain 0 to -30dB Input Impedance > 10k Ohms Output Impedance < 0.02 Ohms Overall Frequency Response (-3 dB Points) < 10Hz to 200Hz Protection circuitry Power and ground reversal, Thermal and Short, Current Overdraw and Low Impedance Protection with auto stand-by mode Filter Settings Subsonic Filter 24dB/Octave @ 15Hz Low Pass Filter frequency 30Hz to 200Hz Low Pass Filter slope 12 or 24dB/Octave I would like to know if this amp would be a better alternative to the alpine MRP M450 / JL 1200e.
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17th May 2006, 10:44	#2
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	hi, How much is the amp costing??, Is it a class D mono amp?
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17th May 2006, 11:05	#3
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_amps.php?amp_id=257 http://www.alpine-europe.com/content...-AMPLIFIER.htm the momo amp puts out 500W at 2 ohms v/s 275 for the JL as per above links. The Alpine puts out 400W but has one confusing spec. "Per channel into 4 ohms: 220W x 1 (1% THD) Per channel into 2 ohms: 400W x 1 Brigded 4 ohms: 600W x 1 " how does one bridge a mono amp! ??? Last edited by navin : 17th May 2006 at 11:12.
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17th May 2006, 12:25	#4
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Polk Audio amplifier is good, the amps equivalent and comparable to Polk is JL Slash Series 500/1 and Alpine V12 Series MRD-M605. Not the lower end ones.
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19th May 2006, 10:25	#8
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	Lets get this straight The Alpine 605 is costing $200 and puts out 600W at 2 ohms The Polk cost $350 and puts out 500W at 2ohms (@ 14.4V). I dont see a question.
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20th May 2006, 00:00	#10
freakrz BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Visakhapatnam Posts: 176 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	i got a deal for alpine MRD M605 for $230 thats the best i have ever found online....but when i checkd the MRD M650 the RMS and some other specs seems to be same except 605 is a V12...what is the actual difference except for the pricing...
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20th May 2006, 02:52	#12
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	its here, http://www.crutchfield.com/S-L3fMZTC...0&I=500MRPM650 it says its a V class amplifier, i dunno whass the diff between V and V12 series thou. i dont see much of a difference between the PM and Alpine except the brand name and price tag!
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20th May 2006, 06:43	#13
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	Alpine V12 amps allow you to tune the amp from some Alpine HU but you need an expensive connector cable to do that. Beyond that I think there is little difference. The 2 amps weigh about the same. (3.7 v/s 3.9 kg). from Alpine's website "Extensive control doesn’t mean much if you have to crawl under the hood or take your equipment apart to do it. Amplifier Link lets you make comprehensive sound adjustments to all the V12 AccuClass-D amplifiers in your system — up to eight of them — directly from the head unit. A total of 11 parameters can be adjusted, including Digital Time Correction, Crossover and Parametric EQ. Amp temperature, voltage and current are even shown on the head unit display, and each amp can be named for easy identification." here the link http://www.alpine-europe.com/content...-AMPLIFIER.htm
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20th May 2006, 21:56	#14
freakrz BHPian Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Visakhapatnam Posts: 176 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	thanx navin...right now my setup consists of alpine 9852 HU,Alpine SVR 1242D type R sub, polk momo db6750 components and polk momo mmc690 coax speakers..and if i get the alpine mrv m650,since i m just lookin to power my sub ...would this amp be good enough,instead of mrd m 605.in terms of powering the sub and pricing...
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2nd June 2006, 20:50	#15
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	can somebody give me the RMS @ 12 V and current drawn by Alpine MRP-M650?
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