The SAGA of Low_Bass_Makker

sk456 · 26th June 2006, 16:08

has amazing SQ...as I said..have faded my rears completely... the fronts are doing all teh work ..No subs..jsut the 3-way front compos with an amp...

The mids with Alicia Keys pounding on the piano sound astounding....

If there any rock...jazz or blues fans ..jsut go and get some Hertz compos installed..they are made for them......

Sam Kapasi · 26th June 2006, 17:03

Hey SK,

Congratulations on your new setup. I am sure you must be excited about it and i can share your enthusiasm.
Just a friendly nudge,
please dont post one line messages every few minutes. It's not allowed at team-BHP

sk456 · 26th June 2006, 17:07

Sorry Sam..didnt knwo abt that...

low_bass_makker · 26th June 2006, 18:10

Does any one has used listened to the DLS Iridium 6.3i Component set...........

navin · 26th June 2006, 19:35

SK, I merged your posts. it is easier to read.

LBM, you going the way of KB and Tool? These are not cheap. I have seen them but not heard them so wont comment any further. They look well made and should perfrom well.

Autophile · 26th June 2006, 20:45

Yes, we have used them and they are very good speakers. I have already listed the better options but they are expensive.

speedzak · 26th June 2006, 21:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkdas

This is what I want and like. Last day I got a Pio 7750 HU and I had to play with teh setting to get what I wanted to hear. My old Sony jsut deliver it and was easier to configure.

Can you post the breakup costs? and details of rest of teh config?

So everybody faces this problem now. (Until now it was unheard). I changed my headUnit and I'm gone mad from then. And JK faces the same problem with 7750 which was far easy for me to setup and I used to get the sound I wanted.

So guys!! Beware!!! think all the negatives and positives while changing the HU!

jkdas · 26th June 2006, 22:07

Glad that I got used to later when I reached home. Teh rotary thing was teh culprit. I though Pio was bad until I got it tuned for my ears.

low_bass_makker · 26th June 2006, 22:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by Autophile

Yes, we have used them and they are very good speakers. I have already listed the better options but they are expensive.

Thanks JB , So for how much did u got them any price range about it....

Also which options u have listed except the hertz mille and focal utopia range.....

navin · 26th June 2006, 23:31

MYTH #1: Certain brands win every time. "Equipment was infinitely important in the early '90s, but it's not nearly as important nowadays because the top 10 or 12 manufacturers are all building very solid product. You're going to hear very minimal differences between them. Today, you still have the zealots who will stand by their brand because it's the most expensive and carries the most weight in the competition scene. But the biggest decision for the entry-level enthusiast is to buy what sounds good to your ears."

my comments in itallics
Yes the top 10-12 or even 20 manufacturers all build a solid product but they can still sound different. Ever heard a Krell and Mark Levinson in the same system?

MYTH #2: The midrange and tweeter must be within 2 inches of each other to work properly. "You put the tweeter wherever it works, wherever it sounds good. I found it works exceptionally well with a high crossover frequency on the A pillar; it helps to widen and deepen the stage. About 5 or 6 years ago, if you had tweeters in your A pillars, you were scorned. Even today, people will email me, saying, 'I don't know how your car could possibly image or stage with the tweeter so close to your ear.'"

Agreed that trial and error are best to determine and there are few fixed rules if any but in general the closer the mid and tweeter are the better ever hear interpolar interference?

MYTH #3: Get a high-end amplifier. "A watt is a watt. I doubt most people can hear the difference between amplifiers unless you push them into clipping anyway."

Julian Hirsch School of Audio! If a Watt is a watt why buy any amp but a Sony 504. Does Scott follow the same logic when he build his systems?

MYTH #4: Your system must be upgraded with a "fancy" battery and alternator. "You'll notice I don't use either in my Altima, and that's because as long as you're just listening to music, you can get by with a factory battery and alternator. The only time an upgrade to the charging system is necessary is when sound pressure level [SPL] is more important. A system that's intended to be listened to with music at standard levels doesn't need a fancy battery or alternator."

Sure under most normal conditions you dont need a upgraded alternator/battery or dual battery system to power your amps but in competition SPL matters.

MYTH #5: Keep power cables away from signal cables when you're running wires. "I still separate the two, but only to establish a cosmetic flow to the wiring scheme. But the reality is that, in a negative ground system — as in 99.9% of the cars on the road — the ground plane is the vehicle's chassis, and it carries with it a voltage potential. Simply routing signal wires along this ground plane can induce the same amount of noise as running signal cables right next to power cables. The electron potential of the car's chassis acts as one big antenna for noise, irrespective of where cables are in relation to each other. So routing signal wires and power wires on the opposite side of a vehicle is a completely moot point."

Sure with a negative ground place noise floor is exactly that - the floor of the car; yet keeping the small signal wires away for the power wires also keep the +ve of the battey from inducing a field in poor RCA cables besides it can't hurt and allows for easier debugging.

Autophile · 26th June 2006, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by low_bass_makker

Thanks JB , So for how much did u got them any price range about it....

Also which options u have listed except the hertz mille and focal utopia range.....

Its been a long time since i had them...I think it was for some USD 700

I have recommended you Rainbow Platinums and Alpine F1 Status (you can also look in scan speak revelator series).

low_bass_makker · 27th June 2006, 00:11

It means that they are for nearly 35k only. Then It is the best buy one can get as nearly every SQ award winnig car are having these sets......Will upload the link in few movements.......

Hope KB is reading this.........

low_bass_makker · 27th June 2006, 00:34

http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/Project%20Altima.htm

http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/189943/1

http://www2.hemsida.net/bilstereo/lime/index_lime.html

http://www2.hemsida.net/bilstereo/2003/10_System.html

http://www2.hemsida.net/bilstereo/2001/2002_system.html

Hope people will like these install AS they are the world BEST........

and everyone is using pioneer ODR series HU

......

I think it is the fav of all SQ fans........

Tool · 27th June 2006, 01:07

all the install have dls iridiums.. hmm.. looks like a good choice... and i think they can be found for arnd 700 $ only on several websites..
but like gunman said.. prefrably.. have a listen first.. but the pair does look yummmy

cheeers

low_bass_makker · 27th June 2006, 04:08

Tool lots of people are using these iridiums and they all are hardcore audiophilles there whole life is revolving around these things. The install done buy are the really what say "dil khush hua" type. We people in this forum are yet to reach that level.........but will reach there with the help and support by all of the bhpins here..........

........Boom..........

26th June 2006, 16:08	#91
sk456 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: @Noida/Gurgaon Posts: 570 Thanked: 7 Times	has amazing SQ...as I said..have faded my rears completely... the fronts are doing all teh work ..No subs..jsut the 3-way front compos with an amp... The mids with Alicia Keys pounding on the piano sound astounding.... If there any rock...jazz or blues fans ..jsut go and get some Hertz compos installed..they are made for them...... Last edited by navin : 26th June 2006 at 19:33.
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26th June 2006, 17:03	#92
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Hey SK, Congratulations on your new setup. I am sure you must be excited about it and i can share your enthusiasm. Just a friendly nudge, please dont post one line messages every few minutes. It's not allowed at team-BHP
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26th June 2006, 17:07	#93
sk456 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: @Noida/Gurgaon Posts: 570 Thanked: 7 Times	Sorry Sam..didnt knwo abt that...
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26th June 2006, 18:10	#94
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Does any one has used listened to the DLS Iridium 6.3i Component set...........
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26th June 2006, 19:35	#95
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	SK, I merged your posts. it is easier to read. LBM, you going the way of KB and Tool? These are not cheap. I have seen them but not heard them so wont comment any further. They look well made and should perfrom well.
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26th June 2006, 20:45	#96
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Yes, we have used them and they are very good speakers. I have already listed the better options but they are expensive.
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26th June 2006, 22:07	#98
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	Glad that I got used to later when I reached home. Teh rotary thing was teh culprit. I though Pio was bad until I got it tuned for my ears.
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26th June 2006, 23:31	#100
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,198 Thanked: 9,302 Times	MYTH #1: Certain brands win every time. "Equipment was infinitely important in the early '90s, but it's not nearly as important nowadays because the top 10 or 12 manufacturers are all building very solid product. You're going to hear very minimal differences between them. Today, you still have the zealots who will stand by their brand because it's the most expensive and carries the most weight in the competition scene. But the biggest decision for the entry-level enthusiast is to buy what sounds good to your ears." my comments in itallics Yes the top 10-12 or even 20 manufacturers all build a solid product but they can still sound different. Ever heard a Krell and Mark Levinson in the same system? MYTH #2: The midrange and tweeter must be within 2 inches of each other to work properly. "You put the tweeter wherever it works, wherever it sounds good. I found it works exceptionally well with a high crossover frequency on the A pillar; it helps to widen and deepen the stage. About 5 or 6 years ago, if you had tweeters in your A pillars, you were scorned. Even today, people will email me, saying, 'I don't know how your car could possibly image or stage with the tweeter so close to your ear.'" Agreed that trial and error are best to determine and there are few fixed rules if any but in general the closer the mid and tweeter are the better ever hear interpolar interference? MYTH #3: Get a high-end amplifier. "A watt is a watt. I doubt most people can hear the difference between amplifiers unless you push them into clipping anyway." Julian Hirsch School of Audio! If a Watt is a watt why buy any amp but a Sony 504. Does Scott follow the same logic when he build his systems? MYTH #4: Your system must be upgraded with a "fancy" battery and alternator. "You'll notice I don't use either in my Altima, and that's because as long as you're just listening to music, you can get by with a factory battery and alternator. The only time an upgrade to the charging system is necessary is when sound pressure level [SPL] is more important. A system that's intended to be listened to with music at standard levels doesn't need a fancy battery or alternator." Sure under most normal conditions you dont need a upgraded alternator/battery or dual battery system to power your amps but in competition SPL matters. MYTH #5: Keep power cables away from signal cables when you're running wires. "I still separate the two, but only to establish a cosmetic flow to the wiring scheme. But the reality is that, in a negative ground system — as in 99.9% of the cars on the road — the ground plane is the vehicle's chassis, and it carries with it a voltage potential. Simply routing signal wires along this ground plane can induce the same amount of noise as running signal cables right next to power cables. The electron potential of the car's chassis acts as one big antenna for noise, irrespective of where cables are in relation to each other. So routing signal wires and power wires on the opposite side of a vehicle is a completely moot point." Sure with a negative ground place noise floor is exactly that - the floor of the car; yet keeping the small signal wires away for the power wires also keep the +ve of the battey from inducing a field in poor RCA cables besides it can't hurt and allows for easier debugging.
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27th June 2006, 00:11	#102
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	It means that they are for nearly 35k only. Then It is the best buy one can get as nearly every SQ award winnig car are having these sets......Will upload the link in few movements....... Hope KB is reading this......... Last edited by low_bass_makker : 27th June 2006 at 00:13.
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27th June 2006, 00:34	#103
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	http://www.buwaldahybrids.com/Project%20Altima.htm http://www.sounddomain.com/ride/189943/1 http://www2.hemsida.net/bilstereo/lime/index_lime.html http://www2.hemsida.net/bilstereo/2003/10_System.html http://www2.hemsida.net/bilstereo/2001/2002_system.html Hope people will like these install AS they are the world BEST........ and everyone is using pioneer ODR series HU...... I think it is the fav of all SQ fans........ Last edited by low_bass_makker : 27th June 2006 at 00:38.
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27th June 2006, 01:07	#104
Tool BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	all the install have dls iridiums.. hmm.. looks like a good choice... and i think they can be found for arnd 700 $ only on several websites.. but like gunman said.. prefrably.. have a listen first.. but the pair does look yummmy cheeers
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27th June 2006, 04:08	#105
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	Tool lots of people are using these iridiums and they all are hardcore audiophilles there whole life is revolving around these things. The install done buy are the really what say "dil khush hua" type. We people in this forum are yet to reach that level.........but will reach there with the help and support by all of the bhpins here.......... ........Boom..........
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