I now know which car we are talking about. I really don't understand the secrecy and the big "don't tell anyone what car it is" business.
Anyways, due to various reasons (doesn't matter what they are), LBM is not "allowed" to mention what car it is.
I am. I've posted pictures of this car. I have heard it and sat in it and judged it. So i believe I am in a very good position to comment on the original question: Is there anything wrong with this install.
First. let me show you the original pictures i had posted. This will help everyone know what car we are talking about.
As you can see from my original posts, I was pretty impressed with the car.
See? From the original 4000+ guru thread
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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi It sounded really nice. Not some pretentious setup. It attacked my gut and sounded fantastic to my ears. Sam khush hua. |
Navin, B&T etc have not heard this car. I have, ergo my opinion in this case (even though it is just mine) is more educated.
Now that we are clear about what car it is, here is my take on this whole issue.
This car has a lot of equipment. It was designed to satisfy the SPL hunger of the person that wanted the system.
It was installed properly by the dealer, under the supervision of the importers/distributors. They took a personal interest in this car, because they had the time, they were at the location and they had great interest in the way the products sounded, not only because they love audio and it is the brand they represent.
Anyways, I sat in this car and it was played loud for me. I believe at about 80% of its capability. Of course i didnt get out running to open the hatch, to see the capacitor votage, but of course, if the voltage had to drop to 9, i would have heard it very clearly. You can hear the bass note collapse when the juice isn't enough.
I also know that a system like that will run fine in a running car. I've seen SPL systems, and designed some myself. Even the 148dB SPL eyeballer was able to operate with the car running.
I heard this install and here's the answer to the title of your thread. I found nothing wrong with it.
I don't know at what level you ran the system for it to have dropped to this level. My guess is either it was turned up to a ridiculous level (I guess the amps were strong enough to take the abuse). or more probably, the car was not running.
Now here are my points
1) This car is not yours. The owner of the car has pretty much got what he wanted and he is happy. If he is unhappy, and he comes here to tell us what he thinks is missing in his sound, we will all scratch our heads collectively and sort it out. If he is happy then this thread has been a waste of TBHP server space.
2) This is not about JB. You don't like him thats your opinion. Arrey,even I don't like JB yaar... the man doesnt drink any alcohol. He is a kalank to the dilli ki punjabi jaat. Laanat on him.
However, I think he knows his stuff and loves all car audio and has worked his hands full of grease and wires on ICE. If as you say, he installed the car himself, I think he should be more worried than you about the way it sounds. Because its the reputation of HIS work and the brands he represents. So it's his naak that will get kataoed, not yours. Have you stopped to consider that?
3) There is no right and wrong in audio. There are choices, ways and methods. You yourself know people that install 6 TS20 and 2 woofers in their car and they are happy. It's a personal choice. You are proud of your car and the way it sounds. I am sure there are people that think your car sounds like crap. So? What are you going to do? Make everyones opinion match yours? It's not possible. What will you do if another mad person like you sits in your car and tells you that you have wasted your money, your system is wierd, these are the technical faults etc etc?
Now imagine if another person posts pictures of your system and asks people to point out faults. Especially if you cant find anything wrong with your sound, imagine how silly that situation will be.
You say, that guy doesnt know anything about sound. In all fairness, and i mean no offense here, my brother, you neither have the qualification, nor the experience to comment on somebody elses audio ignorance.. Leave it. To each his own choice and taste, that is lesson number one.
4) I think you are crazyand mad/mad/mad about sound, and i say, more power to you. Do what makes you happy. Stop this business of finding faults in other people's systems. There are faults in every system of the world. EVERY system in this whole bloody world.
Now to use my toolish -
Chill out bro....enjoy the ride....life is soopa.....big boom...stop annoying the bros for no reason.... hope that helped....
I will now makke a low_bassy sound to indicate my love for my brethren. BOOOOM!!
This said, I think it's time this thread was closed.