pioneer 8650 vs 8850

aZa · 2nd August 2006, 09:36

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Originally Posted by gunbir

aZa, I know for a fact Driven is a Kenwood dealer and he's selling them with B&W for 17k, which in my opinion makes the 8529 one of the best sounding units in this price range. Ask SK456, he heard one in his car...

Gunbir bhai, I had got a chance to audition the Kenwood in the last to last meet at SPICE MALL in that silver Indica. Really liked this HU, infact i was planning to change my 8650 with this one. But now that my HU is working so i've postponed this.

morten · 2nd August 2006, 10:21

guys i checked the 8850 and 8650 in my car ,hell who will check car audio on the shops speakers i dont know.well the 8650 has a tighter bass than 8850 ,the mid and highs seem lot better ,8650 it seems holds the speakers and make them work .the 8850 just had sort of loud sound and doesn't pump the sound .if anybody doubts my verdict please listen to both sys on the same setup with the same song (original cd's not the ****ty mp3's).Even a novice will be able to tell the diff. there must be some reason i left a latest full featured and a COOL looking unit for an older and problematic one like 8650.

speedzak · 2nd August 2006, 10:32

There'll be different views pouring in always here in the forum. Dont get worried morten! It's normal. If you're happy with your sound, then it's always better to let it be like what it is and dont fall into our words. We BHPians are very much experts in confusing ourselves and others.
Some like 8850 (me included) and some 8650. There're some who still like 7750 and will sell their alpines for it!

kb100 · 2nd August 2006, 10:59

... I like Dolphins!... :o)

morten · 2nd August 2006, 11:06

yeah zak got ur point but i am not worried buddy.i am very happy to be a part of t bhp and it is good to be confused sometimes ,it makes u go deeper and search for solutions.i was also thinking of getting 9833 or 9835 but after ur exp i dropped the idea.9835>9855,8650>8850

low_bass_makker · 2nd August 2006, 11:18

thanks for the comment morten veer ....... enjoy ur system ....... lol

sk456 · 2nd August 2006, 11:27

hey guys,

I feel that we shud jsut let the amp/s and the speakers do all the work... EQ/Tone settings on the HU should be left Flat.... In fact I would love to own a HU which has a Defeat ON/OFF toggle...

1. It tells you how good ur amp/s and speakers are.....
2. Also tels you how good ur HU is.... if ur DAC/ HU SQ is any good ... in fact,you can judge your HU quality by testing CD's with a totally Flat EQ setting...

Thats how I see it ....Thats also how I have my set up........

morten · 2nd August 2006, 12:00

yeah buddy i am enjoying my system i am listening to it right now but more than that i like talking to you gurus of sound. Hope to see u guys someday and share ur great knowledge.

low_bass_makker · 2nd August 2006, 12:20

morten what other stuff u have in ur car u could post in this thread...

http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...hat-price.html

iraghava · 2nd August 2006, 12:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by sk456

hey guys,
In fact I would love to own a HU which has a Defeat ON/OFF toggle...

Go buy yourselves an Alpine!!

sk456 · 2nd August 2006, 12:37

One of the reasons I dont like pioneers and alpines are they have too many lights and bulbs shining all over.... I know it sounds stupid...but...thats me again....

...esp pioneers....
Well frankly have not heard any alpines except in soemones Honda City ( the new ugly one )..I think it was OEM..... well I dunno what spekars etc were there..but the SQ was quite bad....

iraghava · 2nd August 2006, 12:41

That's funny becasue that's the first time I have heard somebody say that Alpines are too flashy!! I find them VERY restrained compared to Pioneers.

As for SQ can't comment on the model you auditioned but I am pretty happy with my 9813!

sk456 · 2nd August 2006, 12:51

you are right Iraghava... they are far less flashy .....well they are OK as compared to the Pioneers.........
As for SQ..Maybe I need to hear a few more..as they coem highly recommended from msot of the gurus.....mayeb on the next T-BHP Meet I cud hear some.... i had heard soem in some shops... in the shops all HUs sound the same to me...

I think audtioning of a HU/ICE can only be done inside a car...... reminds me of a shop in Tokyo where they had a whole car on the 12th floor ( where they had the ICE section ) ....whre you could actually ask the sales guy to get you to install the HU and hear it.......

low_bass_makker · 2nd August 2006, 12:51

sk456 which hu u have shortlisted till now......

sk456 · 2nd August 2006, 12:58

Actauly i first have to seriusly upgrade my bank balance...... which has become very low after my last few visits to DRIVEN....

.. nowadyas when anyone asks me what car i drive I tell them GETZ... as my car ( which is a XING) has costed me as much as a GETZ by now....a very bad PJ......

2nd August 2006, 10:21	#47
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	guys i checked the 8850 and 8650 in my car ,hell who will check car audio on the shops speakers i dont know.well the 8650 has a tighter bass than 8850 ,the mid and highs seem lot better ,8650 it seems holds the speakers and make them work .the 8850 just had sort of loud sound and doesn't pump the sound .if anybody doubts my verdict please listen to both sys on the same setup with the same song (original cd's not the ****ty mp3's).Even a novice will be able to tell the diff. there must be some reason i left a latest full featured and a COOL looking unit for an older and problematic one like 8650.
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2nd August 2006, 10:32	#48
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	There'll be different views pouring in always here in the forum. Dont get worried morten! It's normal. If you're happy with your sound, then it's always better to let it be like what it is and dont fall into our words. We BHPians are very much experts in confusing ourselves and others. Some like 8850 (me included) and some 8650. There're some who still like 7750 and will sell their alpines for it!
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2nd August 2006, 10:59	#49
kb100 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Bangy Boy! Posts: 1,555 Thanked: 21 Times	... I like Dolphins!... :o)
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2nd August 2006, 11:06	#50
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	yeah zak got ur point but i am not worried buddy.i am very happy to be a part of t bhp and it is good to be confused sometimes ,it makes u go deeper and search for solutions.i was also thinking of getting 9833 or 9835 but after ur exp i dropped the idea.9835>9855,8650>8850
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2nd August 2006, 11:18	#51
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	thanks for the comment morten veer ....... enjoy ur system ....... lol
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2nd August 2006, 11:27	#52
sk456 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: @Noida/Gurgaon Posts: 570 Thanked: 7 Times	hey guys, I feel that we shud jsut let the amp/s and the speakers do all the work... EQ/Tone settings on the HU should be left Flat.... In fact I would love to own a HU which has a Defeat ON/OFF toggle... 1. It tells you how good ur amp/s and speakers are..... 2. Also tels you how good ur HU is.... if ur DAC/ HU SQ is any good ... in fact,you can judge your HU quality by testing CD's with a totally Flat EQ setting... Thats how I see it ....Thats also how I have my set up........
	() Thanks

2nd August 2006, 12:00	#53
morten BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: chandigarh Posts: 116 Thanked: 2 Times View My Garage	yeah buddy i am enjoying my system i am listening to it right now but more than that i like talking to you gurus of sound. Hope to see u guys someday and share ur great knowledge.
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2nd August 2006, 12:20	#54
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	morten what other stuff u have in ur car u could post in this thread... http://www.team-bhp.com/forum/car-en...hat-price.html
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2nd August 2006, 12:37	#56
sk456 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: @Noida/Gurgaon Posts: 570 Thanked: 7 Times	One of the reasons I dont like pioneers and alpines are they have too many lights and bulbs shining all over.... I know it sounds stupid...but...thats me again.... ...esp pioneers.... Well frankly have not heard any alpines except in soemones Honda City ( the new ugly one )..I think it was OEM..... well I dunno what spekars etc were there..but the SQ was quite bad....
	() Thanks

2nd August 2006, 12:41	#57
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	That's funny becasue that's the first time I have heard somebody say that Alpines are too flashy!! I find them VERY restrained compared to Pioneers. As for SQ can't comment on the model you auditioned but I am pretty happy with my 9813!
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2nd August 2006, 12:51	#58
sk456 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: @Noida/Gurgaon Posts: 570 Thanked: 7 Times	you are right Iraghava... they are far less flashy .....well they are OK as compared to the Pioneers......... As for SQ..Maybe I need to hear a few more..as they coem highly recommended from msot of the gurus.....mayeb on the next T-BHP Meet I cud hear some.... i had heard soem in some shops... in the shops all HUs sound the same to me... I think audtioning of a HU/ICE can only be done inside a car...... reminds me of a shop in Tokyo where they had a whole car on the 12th floor ( where they had the ICE section ) ....whre you could actually ask the sales guy to get you to install the HU and hear it.......
	() Thanks

2nd August 2006, 12:58	#60
sk456 BHPian Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: @Noida/Gurgaon Posts: 570 Thanked: 7 Times	Actauly i first have to seriusly upgrade my bank balance...... which has become very low after my last few visits to DRIVEN.... .. nowadyas when anyone asks me what car i drive I tell them GETZ... as my car ( which is a XING) has costed me as much as a GETZ by now....a very bad PJ......
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