JBL 10 inch sub behaves funny

greatmana2000 · 21st December 2006, 15:13

Hey guys ,

My Jbl 10" sub got funny . The sub suddenly stops playing and I thought it might be something to do with the connections ,but then when the sub stops playing ,I just push the cone ,its starts to play and then stops after a couple of seconds .

I thought my enclosure might be a problem and changed he enclosure as well ,but ,it seems that most of the JBl subwoofers stop playing after sometime ( thats what my installer told me ,and he is quite reputable in chennai ) .It seems that the JBl drivers have this problem and the sub which I own is just around 2 months old . I had a pio 12 inch sub ,but I thought the JBL played better and switched over to the 10inch JBL ,but alas ,the sub went dead .

Could any one suggest a place where I could get my JBL replaced ?any service centres in chennai ?
I had fought with the shop keeper who sold me the JBL sub ,so no chances of going back to him.

gunbir · 21st December 2006, 15:25

GM2000
you should contact Sam Kapasi for details. I hope for your sake, you bought the product with bill & warranty.

speedzak · 21st December 2006, 15:42

A sub won't just die like that easy. Especially JBL!!
You have to post some more details. Did you buy it from an authorised dealer/installer?
2 Months old? it's not at all a problem if you bought it from an authorised dealer. You get good warranty and support for JBL in India.

Speakers can also be prone to some manufacturing defects just like human beings. Some can turn out to be erratic. And that's why the manufacturers give you warranty. Sad, we humans don't have one.

Lucky you have JBL! Imagine if this would happen to your Pioneer one.
You should have dumped it or should've been in the mercy of some crooked importer.

Don't worry about what your installer has to say about JBL. Some people tend to have some sort of dislikes to some brands (I am too). And it just shows in their words. that's all. Chill!!!

Tool · 21st December 2006, 15:57

brilliantly put zak bro..thats very true that it shows in the way people talk. They are quite biased sometimes but thats normal. The good thing about JBL is its a very very good comapny and they offer world class support here in india. I just hope that you have got the sub with Bill and Warranty bro.
do keep us posted on your situation too...
boom

hydrashok · 21st December 2006, 17:28

greatmana2000, if you have a B&W, you should be safe -- it has just been just 2 months since you bought the sub, right?

The guy you bought the sub from seems to be just trying to wash his hands off. I've never heard of any such problem with JBL subs. You know, it sounds very much like you did not get a B&W. Otherwise the dealer doesn't have to act to so shadily or make such sweeping incorrect statements about JBL subs.

If you have no B&W, you will need to get to the dealer again and use some real persuasion and get the sub replaced by the dealer himself. Nobody at JBL will be able to help you with a replacement.

Where exactly did you buy the sub from?

This is the JBL distributor for Chennai (from the JBL website):
Mr. Shridhar
C A T S
S-2, K.G.Plaza, #41, G.P.Road, Chennai 02.
(+91 44)2852 2976, 5202 2976
catsmas@vsnl.net

Try giving him a call or pay him a visit. He should be able to help you.

low_bass_makker · 21st December 2006, 17:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatmana2000

Hey guys ,

My Jbl 10" sub got funny . The sub suddenly stops playing and I thought it might be something to do with the connections ,but then when the sub stops playing ,I just push the cone ,its starts to play and then stops after a couple of seconds .

I think you have pushed you sub more than the limit it can play....from the way you are saying that will pushing it plays and then stop I thing there is some break in the wire leads from the terminal to the Voice coil......

yogesh · 21st December 2006, 19:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedzak

Speakers can also be prone to some manufacturing defects just like human beings. Some can turn out to be erratic. And that's why the manufacturers give you warranty. Sad, we humans don't have one.

Imagine parents trying to replace their kid just because they started to act cranky

Why did the installer suggest that you change the enclosure for this problem in the 1st place?? Btw what enclosure did you have and what did you change it to

speedzak · 21st December 2006, 19:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by yogesh

Why did the installer suggest that you change the enclosure for this problem in the 1st place?? Btw what enclosure did you have and what did you change it to

Whatever it is! The installer who suggested this as the solution to his problem is not worthy of being called as a good installer in my eyes!

My suggestion is to change the installer also with the sub!!

Bass&Trouble · 21st December 2006, 20:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatmana2000

My Jbl 10" sub got funny .

Sounds like a classic symptom of spending too much time with Sam. Rubs off, I guess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatmana2000

The sub suddenly stops playing and I thought it might be something to do with the connections ,but then when the sub stops playing ,I just push the cone ,its starts to play and then stops after a couple of seconds .

This happens sometimes when the tinsel lead joint with the voice coil is weakened. Tinsel lead is the braided wire running from the sub's terminal to some juncture at the cone, usually under the dust cap. This cannot be easily fixed without removing the dust cap, and examining the faulty joint.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatmana2000

I thought my enclosure might be a problem and changed he enclosure as well ,but ,it seems that most of the JBl subwoofers stop playing after sometime ( thats what my installer told me ,and he is quite reputable in chennai ) .

I don't see how the enclosure could be causing this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatmana2000

It seems that the JBl drivers have this problem and the sub which I own is just around 2 months old . I had a pio 12 inch sub ,but I thought the JBL played better and switched over to the 10inch JBL ,but alas ,the sub went dead .

The possible cause could be exceeding the mechanical limits, even momentarily. Most drivers (including this one) are not over-engineered and even moderate torture can cause them to fail. It is not a manufacturing defect. It's just a more practical Factor Of Safety, meant for practical usage, and cost effectiveness.

Quote:

Originally Posted by greatmana2000

I had fought with the shop keeper who sold me the JBL sub ,so no chances of going back to him.

Done it once, do it again! It's his obligation to provide you with warranty services if he sold you the sub whether he likes you or not (or vice versa). Secondly, I am not sure whether the sub actually falls under the purview of warranty considerations. This can be evaluated by the brand representatives only.

navin · 22nd December 2006, 11:06

GM, if you have a B&W I am sure Sam K will help.

Like Bass and Trouble said it most probably is the tinsel leads. I dont know about Chennai but in Mumbai there are a few people (they are getting rarer) that can repair this even if the sub is not in warranty. Actually (while I dont recommend you doing this at home) it is not so diffuclt. You need a steaady hand, an exacto knife and a soldering iron and you can even do this. as long as you not dislodge the voice coil or tear the cone/dust cap (hence the steady hand) you can have the sub as good as new.

esteem_lover · 22nd December 2006, 16:02

greatmana, exactly where did you get the jbl sub from. that info could benefit others in this forum

Sam Kapasi · 23rd December 2006, 10:06

11 comments later... no word on the sub. lol.

I agree, the sub has probably been pushed over it's mechanical limit. And it is the leads. If it's under warranty, you should be taken care of, no problem.

amit_sound · 25th December 2006, 03:20

hey!! even i am facing a similar problem.. I got 2 15" GT4-15. Dunno why one of the subs stopped working.

I hope that it a connection problem....

Though help me out with this.....i am playing the two woofers with one GT0-601.1 mono amp. One woofer is working fine but the other one is stopped. Could this problem anyway related to the amp?

I mean can such a problem arize in a mono amp where one of the one sub is playing and other one not...

Well, anyways tomorrow i am going to my installer to check out the problem... I seriously hope that the amp dosent have any problem. Its 20k yaar.

hydrashok · 25th December 2006, 08:00

amit, I don't think the problem likely to be with the amp at all. If one sub is working, that means the problem is somewhere between the amp and the sub that is not working: the wire, the points of connection, or the sub itself.

Best check first if any of the speaker-wire connections -- from the amp and to/on the sub -- have gotten broken. If that is not the problem, then I think you'll need to get your sub repaired.

Autophile · 25th December 2006, 09:54

Your amplifier is fine. Check the connections at amplifier, terminal cup on box (if any) and subwoofer.

21st December 2006, 15:13	#1
greatmana2000 BANNED Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: chennai Posts: 703 Thanked: 58 Times	JBL 10 inch sub behaves funny Hey guys , My Jbl 10" sub got funny . The sub suddenly stops playing and I thought it might be something to do with the connections ,but then when the sub stops playing ,I just push the cone ,its starts to play and then stops after a couple of seconds . I thought my enclosure might be a problem and changed he enclosure as well ,but ,it seems that most of the JBl subwoofers stop playing after sometime ( thats what my installer told me ,and he is quite reputable in chennai ) .It seems that the JBl drivers have this problem and the sub which I own is just around 2 months old . I had a pio 12 inch sub ,but I thought the JBL played better and switched over to the 10inch JBL ,but alas ,the sub went dead . Could any one suggest a place where I could get my JBL replaced ?any service centres in chennai ? I had fought with the shop keeper who sold me the JBL sub ,so no chances of going back to him.
	() Thanks

21st December 2006, 15:25	#2
gunbir Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,465 Thanked: 32 Times	GM2000 you should contact Sam Kapasi for details. I hope for your sake, you bought the product with bill & warranty.
	() Thanks

21st December 2006, 15:42	#3
speedzak BANNED Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: India Posts: 4,347 Thanked: 27 Times	A sub won't just die like that easy. Especially JBL!! You have to post some more details. Did you buy it from an authorised dealer/installer? 2 Months old? it's not at all a problem if you bought it from an authorised dealer. You get good warranty and support for JBL in India. Speakers can also be prone to some manufacturing defects just like human beings. Some can turn out to be erratic. And that's why the manufacturers give you warranty. Sad, we humans don't have one. Lucky you have JBL! Imagine if this would happen to your Pioneer one. You should have dumped it or should've been in the mercy of some crooked importer. Don't worry about what your installer has to say about JBL. Some people tend to have some sort of dislikes to some brands (I am too). And it just shows in their words. that's all. Chill!!! Last edited by speedzak : 21st December 2006 at 15:43.
	() Thanks

21st December 2006, 17:28	#5
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	greatmana2000, if you have a B&W, you should be safe -- it has just been just 2 months since you bought the sub, right? The guy you bought the sub from seems to be just trying to wash his hands off. I've never heard of any such problem with JBL subs. You know, it sounds very much like you did not get a B&W. Otherwise the dealer doesn't have to act to so shadily or make such sweeping incorrect statements about JBL subs. If you have no B&W, you will need to get to the dealer again and use some real persuasion and get the sub replaced by the dealer himself. Nobody at JBL will be able to help you with a replacement. Where exactly did you buy the sub from? This is the JBL distributor for Chennai (from the JBL website): Mr. Shridhar C A T S S-2, K.G.Plaza, #41, G.P.Road, Chennai 02. (+91 44)2852 2976, 5202 2976 catsmas@vsnl.net Try giving him a call or pay him a visit. He should be able to help you.
	() Thanks

22nd December 2006, 11:06	#10
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,187 Thanked: 9,277 Times	GM, if you have a B&W I am sure Sam K will help. Like Bass and Trouble said it most probably is the tinsel leads. I dont know about Chennai but in Mumbai there are a few people (they are getting rarer) that can repair this even if the sub is not in warranty. Actually (while I dont recommend you doing this at home) it is not so diffuclt. You need a steaady hand, an exacto knife and a soldering iron and you can even do this. as long as you not dislodge the voice coil or tear the cone/dust cap (hence the steady hand) you can have the sub as good as new.
	() Thanks

21st December 2006, 15:57	#4
Tool BHPian Join Date: May 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 351 Thanked: 4 Times View My Garage	brilliantly put zak bro..thats very true that it shows in the way people talk. They are quite biased sometimes but thats normal. The good thing about JBL is its a very very good comapny and they offer world class support here in india. I just hope that you have got the sub with Bill and Warranty bro. do keep us posted on your situation too... boom
	() Thanks

22nd December 2006, 16:02	#11
esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	greatmana, exactly where did you get the jbl sub from. that info could benefit others in this forum
	() Thanks

23rd December 2006, 10:06	#12
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	11 comments later... no word on the sub. lol. I agree, the sub has probably been pushed over it's mechanical limit. And it is the leads. If it's under warranty, you should be taken care of, no problem.
	() Thanks

25th December 2006, 03:20	#13
amit_sound BHPian Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Mumbai Posts: 596 Thanked: 11 Times	hey!! even i am facing a similar problem.. I got 2 15" GT4-15. Dunno why one of the subs stopped working. I hope that it a connection problem.... Though help me out with this.....i am playing the two woofers with one GT0-601.1 mono amp. One woofer is working fine but the other one is stopped. Could this problem anyway related to the amp? I mean can such a problem arize in a mono amp where one of the one sub is playing and other one not... Well, anyways tomorrow i am going to my installer to check out the problem... I seriously hope that the amp dosent have any problem. Its 20k yaar.
	() Thanks

25th December 2006, 08:00	#14
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	amit, I don't think the problem likely to be with the amp at all. If one sub is working, that means the problem is somewhere between the amp and the sub that is not working: the wire, the points of connection, or the sub itself. Best check first if any of the speaker-wire connections -- from the amp and to/on the sub -- have gotten broken. If that is not the problem, then I think you'll need to get your sub repaired.
	() Thanks

25th December 2006, 09:54	#15
Autophile BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: New Delhi Posts: 931 Thanked: 4 Times	Your amplifier is fine. Check the connections at amplifier, terminal cup on box (if any) and subwoofer.
	() Thanks