What's so special about Double Din systems ?

Bass&Trouble · 29th March 2007, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Or 1.1 DIN, like the HU's made by Becker etc for mostly european cars. They dont fit into single din japanese cars.

I've seen 1.5 din in receivers and there is an abundance of 0.5 din processors, what's a 1.1 din?

Sam Kapasi · 29th March 2007, 18:52

hehehe, it's a 1 din HU that slightly larger all around because it's european and needs to be different. So it won't fit in a japanese car.

swathyd · 1st April 2007, 13:54

Dear friends,

Among audiophiles there is a belief that bigger the better. Like valves are better than ic s etc. I also had a notion that 2 DIN will be better than single DIN.

navin · 1st April 2007, 21:22

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Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

hehehe, it's a 1 din HU that slightly larger all around because it's european and needs to be different. So it won't fit in a japanese car.

The story is slightly longer and much more complicated than that. I learnt long ago to keep my answers short and not to get too detailed on ICE especially when Sam does not have the time to babysit my posts.

BTW, Sam, you will notice that it is only some brands that do this.

esteem_lover · 1st April 2007, 22:11

We like you just the same for it, navin.

And those brands would be absolutely stubborn european ones ?

low_bass_makker · 2nd April 2007, 01:46

even pioneer (japanese) make come with more than 1 din and less than 2 din...for some american cars....

navin · 2nd April 2007, 09:26

True LBM. Most Jap brands have atleast one model that has 1.1 or 1.5 DIN.

iraghava · 19th May 2008, 20:55

I had used the JVC 900 for quite a while in the Yeti Twins & IMO the UI was not at all user-friendly. Most functions were hard to access & it was unnecessarily complicated to use. It was not intuitive to use at all.

I would prefer a simpler single-din HU to a fiddly touch screen like the JVC.

gunbir · 19th May 2008, 22:49

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Originally Posted by iraghava

I had used the JVC 900 for quite a while in the Yeti Twins & IMO the UI was not at all user-friendly. Most functions were hard to access & it was unnecessarily complicated to use. It was not intuitive to use at all. I would prefer a simpler single-din HU to a fiddly touch screen like the JVC.

As much as I agree with you, there are many people who want a reverse camera, bluetooth, DVD video etc in their dash. Besides, it would be fair to compare the UI with other 2DIN DVD HUs.

iraghava · 19th May 2008, 23:30

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Originally Posted by gunbir

As much as I agree with you, there are many people who want a reverse camera, bluetooth, DVD video etc in their dash. Besides, it would be fair to compare the UI with other 2DIN DVD HUs.

Agreed, I don't want any of them gadgets in my car anyway so it would not be my choice. Plus, based on my experience, which is largely with single DIN HU's, I would think the review would be biased towards single-DIN's.

navin · 20th May 2008, 16:49

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Originally Posted by gunbir

As much as I agree with you, there are many people who want a reverse camera, bluetooth, DVD video etc in their dash. Besides, it would be fair to compare the UI with other 2DIN DVD HUs.

Gunbir,

Today many cars are offering 2 DIN slots for the HU. My friend recently bought a toyota innova and it has a 2 DIN slot. In fact a 1DIN HU looks funny in that slot so ginve this which HU in your opinion has the best UI. A UI comparable to a 1 DIN HU.

What I fail to understand is why most manufacturers of 2 DIN HUs insist on using "touch-scream". The tactile feel of buttons and knobs is most essential in a car.

gunbir · 20th May 2008, 19:24

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Originally Posted by navin

What I fail to understand is why most manufacturers of 2 DIN HUs insist on using "touch-scream". The tactile feel of buttons and knobs is most essential in a car.

I'm sure you must have experienced Alpine's PulseTouch tech on some of their DVD HUs. It was very nice to use, with proper tactile feedback. Though I think they have left it out on the new W505, I maybe wrong though.

navin · 21st May 2008, 10:42

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Originally Posted by gunbir

I'm sure you must have experienced Alpine's PulseTouch tech on some of their DVD HUs. It was very nice to use, with proper tactile feedback. Though I think they have left it out on the new W505, I maybe wrong though.

Actually no I have not. I have not really got a lot experience with 2 DIN HUs or even any with motorised panels. Alpine did make a lot of noise about this technology a few years ago.

I assume this technology similar to that on the Apple phone? I dd not like the Apple phone version. While there was some tactile feedback it was nothing like a button and with buttons one can feel the edges with a screen one does not know if one has hit the right button. Also in direct sunlight are these screens readbale?

I liked the old alpine units where the front screen can tilt for better readability. Do the new 2 DIN / motorised ones also offer this?

Vid6639 · 21st May 2008, 11:47

I know the JVC 900 has the tilt feature for better readability angle.

ramie2400 · 21st May 2008, 12:09

My pioneer AVH-4950dvd becomes blank in sunlight i have to tilt it to see the screen it acts the same like a cell phone screen in afternoon where u need to keep your hand for some shadows too see who's message is it

29th March 2007, 18:52	#17
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	hehehe, it's a 1 din HU that slightly larger all around because it's european and needs to be different. So it won't fit in a japanese car.
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swathyd BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: thiruvananthapuram Posts: 774 Thanked: 25 Times	Dear friends, Among audiophiles there is a belief that bigger the better. Like valves are better than ic s etc. I also had a notion that 2 DIN will be better than single DIN.
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esteem_lover Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Madras/Py Posts: 7,556 Thanked: 502 Times View My Garage	We like you just the same for it, navin. And those brands would be absolutely stubborn european ones ?
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low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	even pioneer (japanese) make come with more than 1 din and less than 2 din...for some american cars.... Last edited by low_bass_makker : 2nd April 2007 at 01:47.
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2nd April 2007, 09:26	#22
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,174 Thanked: 9,261 Times	True LBM. Most Jap brands have atleast one model that has 1.1 or 1.5 DIN.
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19th May 2008, 20:55	#23
iraghava Senior - BHPian Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Bhaiyyaland Posts: 8,033 Thanked: 265 Times View My Garage	I had used the JVC 900 for quite a while in the Yeti Twins & IMO the UI was not at all user-friendly. Most functions were hard to access & it was unnecessarily complicated to use. It was not intuitive to use at all. I would prefer a simpler single-din HU to a fiddly touch screen like the JVC.
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Vid6639 Team-BHP Support Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Bangalore Posts: 17,724 Thanked: 43,448 Times View My Garage	I know the JVC 900 has the tilt feature for better readability angle.
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21st May 2008, 12:09	#30
ramie2400 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Mumbai Posts: 1,903 Thanked: 66 Times View My Garage	My pioneer AVH-4950dvd becomes blank in sunlight i have to tilt it to see the screen it acts the same like a cell phone screen in afternoon where u need to keep your hand for some shadows too see who's message is it
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