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mainak · 24th June 2007, 21:31

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Originally Posted by navin

You know Mainak, if you could post details of your observations it would be very helpful to all the members.

At my age and my obligations I do not get the chance to review too many products. What knowledge I have is very dated and brands often change over their lifetime.

i'm not too much of an audio guru like you guys. but would still try to contribute.

what kinda review are you looking for?

navin · 24th June 2007, 22:16

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Originally Posted by mainak

what kinda review are you looking for?

DOnt be afraid to contribute. Say it in your own words. Say what you heard.

When I used to go for auditions I used to carry a little note pad.

low_bass_makker · 25th June 2007, 00:07

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Originally Posted by navin

Do not sit in the rear seat!

Navin Ji that will be done first with child lock .......

mainak · 25th June 2007, 08:50

Ok..
here's the start to it then..
Rainbow SL 6x9 Coaxials

These speakers have a so called natural fibre cone. After Navinji's post about some reviews, I went to the dealer and auditioned it again. This speaker is priced something about 9k w/o B&W.
The mids were crystal clear. Also the bass was pretty good without an amp. Max output is 140 W.
Frequency Response: 40 - 22.000 Hz
Crossover frequency: 4800Hz.
The 20 mm silk dome tweeter provides clear treble notes. Overall it felt great.
Conecting a Kicker 06ZX2502 2 channel amp to these was just AWESOME.
Bass reponse increased manifolds as well as the mids. Clipping was not heard even after going to max audio levels. (HU was Blau Memphis MP66). Reviews on MTX and Helix would give in a while.

navin · 25th June 2007, 12:00

well put mainak, the pics were just great too.

hydrashok · 25th June 2007, 12:09

Nice review, Mainak!

You definitely hit the main points

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And it looks like you have a nice, friendly dealer too.

mainak · 25th June 2007, 12:32

@navin
thnx for the same..

@hydrashok
dealer is a gr8 guy. He personally auditioned all the speakers in my car. Wiring of amps and all were just temporary so used Kicker Cables were used. Hoping the quality would increase after using new RCA cables.

mainak · 25th June 2007, 12:54

Helix H169 ESPRIT

Helix speakers are all about clarity. Not the Indian dhin chak types but clear trebles without the shrillness attached to it. It has a 19mm dome tweeters which provide clear highs. Also a 50mm midrange speaker is present for providing good mids. The lows were a bit too low for my expectations, but overall still ok.
Max output is RMS/MAX : 50/100 W
Frequency Response is a bit off ranging from 53Hz to 22Khz. So lows are a bit less.
Overall if u want clarity go for helix.

santosh.s · 25th June 2007, 13:24

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Originally Posted by mainak

These speakers have a so called natural fibre cone.

By any chance, is it "hemp" fiber? I have read about hemp in conjunction with Alpine and JVC speakers (don't laugh at the 2nd one!). This is what I am talking about: Hemp Acoustics ...o...

mainak · 25th June 2007, 13:58

@santosh..

thought no one would ask.
according to dealer..
material is made of butyl rubber. Diaphgram is made of air dried paper and mineral coating. Neodymium ring magnet for extreme sensitivity

moralfibre · 25th June 2007, 15:20

Mainak I assume you are good with evaluating speakers going by your choice of brands, if possible could you please audition the Illusion Electra series 69.1 in Bombay and give us your opinions? My friend wants to go for those in his Santro:

Shot

::* i l l u s i o n** a u d i o* ::

navin · 25th June 2007, 15:27

Moral Fibre, Bass & Trouble represents Illusion. As fo a review it is best to listen for yourself. I am sure B&T can arrange a demo.

mainak · 25th June 2007, 15:34

@moralfibre.
i can surely audition illusion series. But its a tried and tested brand in this forum atleast. Read lots about it here. But as Navinji pointed out. Best judge would be your ears.
BTW whr's B&T navinji? Would like to go and check them out.

moralfibre · 25th June 2007, 15:36

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Originally Posted by navin

Moral Fibre, Bass & Trouble represents Illusion. As fo a review it is best to listen for yourself. I am sure B&T can arrange a demo.

I agree Navin. I spoke to him but couldn't get a demo since Ajay was busy while I was there. I will get in touch with him soon.

Thanks for the suggestion.

mainak · 25th June 2007, 15:52

MTX Thunder Dome Axials TDX6903

These speakers are the ones that I have in my car. These are triaxial speakers. They have two seperate tweeters 20 & 25 mm soft dome types for treble production. The cone is made of polypropelyne. RMS/Peak is 100/300 Watts. This speakers are made for output ! Lowers are pretty good. Mids are a bit off but they have clear highs thanks to the two tweeters.

Kicker amplifier used for testing rainbow speakers didnt quite suite it. (I came to know that combinations for amps and axials is also important).But when teamed with MTX Thunder TA 502 2 channel amps, the real lowers came in. For those who don't really wanna invest in a sub (still a must for real enthusiasts) they can do with this. Yeah they have a lower frequency range 40Hz-22Khz. But still the a normal string guitar's frequency is something bout 41hz.

25th June 2007, 08:50	#49
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 0 Times	Ok.. here's the start to it then.. Rainbow SL 6x9 Coaxials These speakers have a so called natural fibre cone. After Navinji's post about some reviews, I went to the dealer and auditioned it again. This speaker is priced something about 9k w/o B&W. The mids were crystal clear. Also the bass was pretty good without an amp. Max output is 140 W. Frequency Response: 40 - 22.000 Hz Crossover frequency: 4800Hz. The 20 mm silk dome tweeter provides clear treble notes. Overall it felt great. Conecting a Kicker 06ZX2502 2 channel amp to these was just AWESOME. Bass reponse increased manifolds as well as the mids. Clipping was not heard even after going to max audio levels. (HU was Blau Memphis MP66). Reviews on MTX and Helix would give in a while.
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 12:00	#50
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,187 Thanked: 9,277 Times	well put mainak, the pics were just great too.
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25th June 2007, 12:09	#51
hydrashok Senior - BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: In my Office Posts: 2,528 Thanked: 17 Times View My Garage	Nice review, Mainak! You definitely hit the main points. And it looks like you have a nice, friendly dealer too.
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 12:32	#52
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 0 Times	@navin thnx for the same.. @hydrashok dealer is a gr8 guy. He personally auditioned all the speakers in my car. Wiring of amps and all were just temporary so used Kicker Cables were used. Hoping the quality would increase after using new RCA cables.
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 12:54	#53
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 0 Times	Helix H169 ESPRIT Helix speakers are all about clarity. Not the Indian dhin chak types but clear trebles without the shrillness attached to it. It has a 19mm dome tweeters which provide clear highs. Also a 50mm midrange speaker is present for providing good mids. The lows were a bit too low for my expectations, but overall still ok. Max output is RMS/MAX : 50/100 W Frequency Response is a bit off ranging from 53Hz to 22Khz. So lows are a bit less. Overall if u want clarity go for helix.
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 13:58	#55
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 0 Times	@santosh.. thought no one would ask. according to dealer.. material is made of butyl rubber. Diaphgram is made of air dried paper and mineral coating. Neodymium ring magnet for extreme sensitivity
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 15:20	#56
moralfibre Team-BHP Support Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: MH-12 Posts: 8,451 Thanked: 13,968 Times	Mainak I assume you are good with evaluating speakers going by your choice of brands, if possible could you please audition the Illusion Electra series 69.1 in Bombay and give us your opinions? My friend wants to go for those in his Santro: Shot ::* i l l u s i o n** a u d i o* ::
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 15:27	#57
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,187 Thanked: 9,277 Times	Moral Fibre, Bass & Trouble represents Illusion. As fo a review it is best to listen for yourself. I am sure B&T can arrange a demo.
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 15:34	#58
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 0 Times	@moralfibre. i can surely audition illusion series. But its a tried and tested brand in this forum atleast. Read lots about it here. But as Navinji pointed out. Best judge would be your ears. BTW whr's B&T navinji? Would like to go and check them out.
	() Thanks

25th June 2007, 15:52	#60
mainak BHPian Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Mumbai Posts: 90 Thanked: 0 Times	MTX Thunder Dome Axials TDX6903 These speakers are the ones that I have in my car. These are triaxial speakers. They have two seperate tweeters 20 & 25 mm soft dome types for treble production. The cone is made of polypropelyne. RMS/Peak is 100/300 Watts. This speakers are made for output ! Lowers are pretty good. Mids are a bit off but they have clear highs thanks to the two tweeters. Kicker amplifier used for testing rainbow speakers didnt quite suite it. (I came to know that combinations for amps and axials is also important).But when teamed with MTX Thunder TA 502 2 channel amps, the real lowers came in. For those who don't really wanna invest in a sub (still a must for real enthusiasts) they can do with this. Yeah they have a lower frequency range 40Hz-22Khz. But still the a normal string guitar's frequency is something bout 41hz.
	() Thanks