PROBLEMO...speakers stop workin at low vol!!

ronk · 21st July 2007, 11:37

i have fit a Sony Gt260 HU on my getz 1.1, paired it with JBL 6" spkrs (CS series) up front and sony 6" coax at the back.. fit them in standard provided for slots on doors... well
initially their was a loose connection and only one speaker ended up workin!! the accessories guy said it was due to a loose audio harness at stereo end..
now when i switch the system on, most often two speakers aren't workin..Front left and rear right, once i increase the volume , they start workin again!! agaun they do switch off often, but increasin the volume makes them start workin again.. infact even if i inc vol and then reduce it, they still works!!
besides, i have this feeling that the left side is a little louder.. is that natural?

DerAlte · 22nd July 2007, 11:16

1. When was the ICE installed and by whom?
2. Didn't the accessory guy try doing anything about it? Was he not the installer?

The problem could be oxidation of the contacts between the HU and the housing connectors. Take the HU out (not the GI housing) and clean the contacts with a hard eraser. The manual should contain instructions how to take the HU out.

The left could sound louder either due to the BALance setting or due to the speakers' angle relative to the way you sit (see if it is the same at all seat back tilt settings of the driver seat)

jkdas · 22nd July 2007, 11:41

nice lesson. Bangy guys, avoid that installer.

abt that natural part, check balance and fader.

ronk · 22nd July 2007, 12:05

hey..well, sorry yet to change profile.. not bangalore, im in cal now..so is the dealer

the accesories guy onl was the installer.
well, balance fader is set at zero only.. there was a harness problem initially.. well, i'll try removing the set..
besides, the speakers weren't jack on fitting, the guy cut wires right behind the jack and used the conventional tape method..
the left side louder issue is experienced from all seating points in the car..
thanks for the help guys

low_bass_makker · 22nd July 2007, 13:00

the speaker wire or its connector are at fault her. Get them checked.

If the problem is with the OEM wire get it changed by laying separate speaker wire.

navin · 23rd July 2007, 10:08

1. check all contacts and wiring (check for shorts, intermetent contact failure etc. if nesscary solder each connection).
2. with a voltmeter check each speaker (my guess is this will be ok but I wnat to know)
3. test system with another HU.

jyobeb · 23rd July 2007, 10:13

I had the same problem, only, the problem was with my amp. It was a dry soldering problem and a complete resoldering of all relavent contacts rectified it.

navin · 23rd July 2007, 10:19

that is why I said check with other HU (this case uses the HU's internal amp).

ronk · 23rd July 2007, 16:20

oh okay, thanks guys... well i don't think this installer's capable of checking anything apart from light bulb connections!!! i guess ill have to get it done from somewhere else.

ronk · 30th July 2007, 01:39

hi... problem finally solved!! after running to the dealer thrice, i decided to get the system re wired from another dealer...
very neat job, althou he chaRGED me 400... nice method of mounting speakers using speaker grill ring..
sounds much tighter now, and no loose connections!
but, alas.. seems i got fooled with the rear speakers, they are fake sony!!
guess i'll put in a complain with sony, atleast for the shoddy install they did...

navin · 30th July 2007, 10:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by ronk

but, alas.. seems i got fooled with the rear speakers, they are fake sony!!...

sometimes fake sonys sound better than the real sony! :-) seriously!

Sam Kapasi · 30th July 2007, 19:15

Actually most speakers sound better than real sony, so I would believe you navin. Honestly, even Dhoom and Fusion speakers sounded much better to me.

rocksterraghu · 30th July 2007, 20:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

sometimes fake sonys sound better than the real sony! :-) seriously!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sam Kapasi

Actually most speakers sound better than real sony, so I would believe you navin. Honestly, even Dhoom and Fusion speakers sounded much better to me.

That is awesome!

This happened once when I was at a car accessories shop while getting something my friend's car:

This chap bought a Sony HU for his Alto. The dealer suggested Pio 6X9's and this fellow had an apprehension that Pio speakers would not suite his Sony HU. The dealer took out a pair of Sony 6X9's and promptly got them installed. Once installed, the guy was so excited, he bought a pair of sony components (had never heard of them before that incident) and insisted on having a Sony amplifier. The dealer mentioned the unavailability of Sony amps and the customer was almost about to return every component he'd purchased from the dealer.

Some people really need to use their ears!

DerAlte · 30th July 2007, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by rocksterraghu

Some people really need to use their ears!

Sure, and also what's in between. But then, dopamine acts strangely for many people - suppresses certain parts of the brain, including logic and common sense.

iraghava · 31st July 2007, 01:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by DerAlte

Sure, and also what's in between. But then, dopamine acts strangely for many people - suppresses certain parts of the brain, including logic and common sense.

Sir, have you had some first hand experience with the same?

21st July 2007, 11:37	#1
ronk BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 157 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	PROBLEMO...speakers stop workin at low vol!! i have fit a Sony Gt260 HU on my getz 1.1, paired it with JBL 6" spkrs (CS series) up front and sony 6" coax at the back.. fit them in standard provided for slots on doors... well initially their was a loose connection and only one speaker ended up workin!! the accessories guy said it was due to a loose audio harness at stereo end.. now when i switch the system on, most often two speakers aren't workin..Front left and rear right, once i increase the volume , they start workin again!! agaun they do switch off often, but increasin the volume makes them start workin again.. infact even if i inc vol and then reduce it, they still works!! besides, i have this feeling that the left side is a little louder.. is that natural?
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22nd July 2007, 11:16	#2
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,069 Thanked: 2,919 Times	1. When was the ICE installed and by whom? 2. Didn't the accessory guy try doing anything about it? Was he not the installer? The problem could be oxidation of the contacts between the HU and the housing connectors. Take the HU out (not the GI housing) and clean the contacts with a hard eraser. The manual should contain instructions how to take the HU out. The left could sound louder either due to the BALance setting or due to the speakers' angle relative to the way you sit (see if it is the same at all seat back tilt settings of the driver seat) Last edited by DerAlte : 22nd July 2007 at 11:23.
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22nd July 2007, 11:41	#3
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	nice lesson. Bangy guys, avoid that installer. abt that natural part, check balance and fader.
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22nd July 2007, 12:05	#4
ronk BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 157 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	hey..well, sorry yet to change profile.. not bangalore, im in cal now..so is the dealer the accesories guy onl was the installer. well, balance fader is set at zero only.. there was a harness problem initially.. well, i'll try removing the set.. besides, the speakers weren't jack on fitting, the guy cut wires right behind the jack and used the conventional tape method.. the left side louder issue is experienced from all seating points in the car.. thanks for the help guys
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22nd July 2007, 13:00	#5
low_bass_makker Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Faridabad Posts: 6,815 Thanked: 305 Times View My Garage	the speaker wire or its connector are at fault her. Get them checked. If the problem is with the OEM wire get it changed by laying separate speaker wire.
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23rd July 2007, 10:08	#6
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	1. check all contacts and wiring (check for shorts, intermetent contact failure etc. if nesscary solder each connection). 2. with a voltmeter check each speaker (my guess is this will be ok but I wnat to know) 3. test system with another HU.
	() Thanks

23rd July 2007, 10:13	#7
jyobeb Senior - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Madurai Posts: 1,010 Thanked: 703 Times	I had the same problem, only, the problem was with my amp. It was a dry soldering problem and a complete resoldering of all relavent contacts rectified it.
	() Thanks

23rd July 2007, 10:19	#8
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,176 Thanked: 9,264 Times	that is why I said check with other HU (this case uses the HU's internal amp).
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23rd July 2007, 16:20	#9
ronk BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 157 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	oh okay, thanks guys... well i don't think this installer's capable of checking anything apart from light bulb connections!!! i guess ill have to get it done from somewhere else.
	() Thanks

30th July 2007, 01:39	#10
ronk BHPian Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Bengaluru Posts: 157 Thanked: 51 Times View My Garage	hi... problem finally solved!! after running to the dealer thrice, i decided to get the system re wired from another dealer... very neat job, althou he chaRGED me 400... nice method of mounting speakers using speaker grill ring.. sounds much tighter now, and no loose connections! but, alas.. seems i got fooled with the rear speakers, they are fake sony!! guess i'll put in a complain with sony, atleast for the shoddy install they did...
	() Thanks

30th July 2007, 19:15	#12
Sam Kapasi Distinguished - BHPian Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Mumbai (but wat Posts: 6,997 Thanked: 2,378 Times View My Garage	Actually most speakers sound better than real sony, so I would believe you navin. Honestly, even Dhoom and Fusion speakers sounded much better to me.
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