Basic ICE for Santro

askids · 14th August 2007, 22:50

Hi All,

I looking for setting up ICE for Santro Xing. This will primarily be used by my dad and occasionally by me. Currently there is no HU or speakers installed.

I started searching the forum for Santro specific setups. Read through many posts and especially the JBLfy thread and what ice @ what price, got confused to the maximum extent possible and have started a new thread

My requirements are as belows
1) My budget is <=20K.
2) We dont want to lose much of the boot space since its already limited in Santro. So unless you can suggest a small sub which wont steal my boot space, I can do without the sub.
3) Need a front centric sound setup.
4) Would like to place the speakers in the default speaker location provided by manufacture.
5) Will not be upgrading the ICE for next couple of years unless I become filthy rich before that (which I dont think is going to happen anytime soon :()
6) Since I wont have the privilege of having a sub, I would like to have speakers which can handle/generate good amount of bass at decent volumes.
7) I mainly listen to music with good bass(sadly w/o sub, I will have to change my taste during the visits). My parents like lite music.
8) For HU, I would like it to have USB, ipod connectivity along with removable face plate.
9) I have no preference for any particular brand. I like to pay for performance and not the brand name

I am yet to start searching for it locally. So would like to have some details (including price - with and w/o B&W) before I start understanding what the dealer/installer is offering me. I have option of hunting for the parts in Blore/Mysore/Mlore.

So gurus, experts and fellow tbhpians, please get going and provide me your valuable inputs.

Thanks
askids

navin · 15th August 2007, 00:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by askids

1) My budget is <=20K.
2) We dont want to lose much of the boot space
3) Need a front centric sound setup.
4) Would like to place the speakers in the default speaker location
5) Will not be upgrading the ICE
8) For HU, I would like it to have USB, ipod connectivity

HU: Pio 5950UB 8K
Front components and rear 6x9: 9K (JBL's CS series might be your best bet here)
Sony 554 amp: 5K
total 24K. It is a bit over budget but with an amp your speakers will sound nicer.

jkdas · 15th August 2007, 01:10

People in Bangy also get JVC 4 channel amp for almost the same rate.

You can go for co-ax at back on stock location( 5.25 inchers). If you dont want someone to cut your door pads then 4inch co-ax or compos( but getting 4 inch compo can be tough).

Atleast get 5.25inch compos for front now even if you have to skip the amp for now.

hemanthisgreat · 15th August 2007, 06:43

in bangalore you can get the jbl cs 60.4 amp w/o B/W for 5300. u can come down to bangalore and get all the products naveen mentioned without B/W and get a good deal and install it in bangalore itself.

askids · 16th August 2007, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

HU: Pio 5950UB 8K
Front components and rear 6x9: 9K (JBL's CS series might be your best bet here)
Sony 554 amp: 5K
total 24K. It is a bit over budget but with an amp your speakers will sound nicer.

navin, are the price mentioned by you with B/W. Also can you please mention the model numbers for speakers. I googled 5950UB, but with could not find it any site. But I found 5950IB. Is it the same model? And I am assuming that 2K was for wiring/fitting as total comes to 22K.

also, which is a better pick between sony 554 and jbl cs 60.4?

Thanks
askids

navin · 17th August 2007, 10:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by askids

navin, are the price mentioned by you with B/W. Also can you please mention the model numbers for speakers. I googled 5950UB, but with could not find it any site. But I found 5950IB. Is it the same model? And I am assuming that 2K was for wiring/fitting as total comes to 22K.

also, which is a better pick between sony 554 and jbl cs 60.4?

Thanks
askids

the Pio 5950IB (sorry about that typo) is without B&W the rest is with. JBL's 60.4 is 9-10K with B&W. yes I added a few K for wires, fitting and a MDF rear plank for the 6x9s. The default rear location would mean no bass at all. Even the front default location is poor. I'd recommend installing the woofer in the door and the tweeter in the front speaker pod. Talk to your installer if he can do this before investing in the components. There are very companie that make 4" components (the front default speaker pods are 4") so I'd consider a 5-6" woofer installed in the door and the tweeter in the "pod".

deepak_ms · 17th August 2007, 10:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

the Pio 5950IB is 8k without B&W

are you sure.. i think its still lesser.. in bangalore you can get Pio 7950 for 9k

gopz · 17th August 2007, 10:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by deepak_ms

are you sure.. i think its still lesser.. in bangalore you can get Pio 5950 for 9k

Well on JC road its available for less than 7k!!!

deepak_ms · 17th August 2007, 10:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopz

Well on JC road its available for less than 7k!!!

typo... wanted to say that Pio 7950 is around 9k in bangalore.. not 5950.

navin · 17th August 2007, 10:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by gopz

Well on JC road its available for less than 7k!!!

then he can either get the 6950IB or better speakers or a bottle of chablis with the money saved.

askids · 17th August 2007, 14:10

i have read that 5950 is usb ready only..i mean to say that it still needs a usb adapter cable which will cost another 3-4K. Where as 7950 already has the it builtin and usb drives can be used directly. If that's the case, wont it be better to go for 7950 @ 9K rather than going for 5950 @ 7K + extra for usb adapter cable?

rjstyles69 · 17th August 2007, 14:15

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which is a better pick between sony 554 and jbl cs 60.4?

Sony is VFM and the 554 isnt all that bad either. Used one for about 3 months.

I recommend you pick up the CS 60.4.

Also if you wanna save boot space , check this install here done by Satya.

navin · 17th August 2007, 15:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by askids

i have read that 5950 is usb ready only..i mean to say that it still needs a usb adapter cable which will cost another 3-4K.?

I thought both need the cable. LBM where are you? I am sre LBM can sort out this confusion.

deepak_ms · 17th August 2007, 16:44

yeap... both need a cable..the shop i went to enquire told 5950 is USB ready but some thing must be adjusted , so he needs to sent it to Pioneer authorised dealer to get it done.

but 7950 does not require that. 7950 comes with the cable. where as for 5950 we need to buy it. and usb adapter cable which will not cost 3-4K. max it may cost somewhere around 500Rs.

panky12345 · 17th August 2007, 17:26

As far as I'm aware, 7950 has a plug'n' play option. no need of buying seperate cables.

14th August 2007, 22:50	#1
askids BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mysore Posts: 73 Thanked: 3 Times	Basic ICE for Santro Hi All, I looking for setting up ICE for Santro Xing. This will primarily be used by my dad and occasionally by me. Currently there is no HU or speakers installed. I started searching the forum for Santro specific setups. Read through many posts and especially the JBLfy thread and what ice @ what price, got confused to the maximum extent possible and have started a new thread My requirements are as belows 1) My budget is <=20K. 2) We dont want to lose much of the boot space since its already limited in Santro. So unless you can suggest a small sub which wont steal my boot space, I can do without the sub. 3) Need a front centric sound setup. 4) Would like to place the speakers in the default speaker location provided by manufacture. 5) Will not be upgrading the ICE for next couple of years unless I become filthy rich before that (which I dont think is going to happen anytime soon :() 6) Since I wont have the privilege of having a sub, I would like to have speakers which can handle/generate good amount of bass at decent volumes. 7) I mainly listen to music with good bass(sadly w/o sub, I will have to change my taste during the visits). My parents like lite music. 8) For HU, I would like it to have USB, ipod connectivity along with removable face plate. 9) I have no preference for any particular brand. I like to pay for performance and not the brand name I am yet to start searching for it locally. So would like to have some details (including price - with and w/o B&W) before I start understanding what the dealer/installer is offering me. I have option of hunting for the parts in Blore/Mysore/Mlore. So gurus, experts and fellow tbhpians, please get going and provide me your valuable inputs. Thanks askids
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15th August 2007, 01:10	#3
jkdas Senior - BHPian Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Thiruvananthapu Posts: 9,687 Thanked: 1,492 Times View My Garage	People in Bangy also get JVC 4 channel amp for almost the same rate. You can go for co-ax at back on stock location( 5.25 inchers). If you dont want someone to cut your door pads then 4inch co-ax or compos( but getting 4 inch compo can be tough). Atleast get 5.25inch compos for front now even if you have to skip the amp for now.
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15th August 2007, 06:43	#4
hemanthisgreat BHPian Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 594 Thanked: 50 Times View My Garage	in bangalore you can get the jbl cs 60.4 amp w/o B/W for 5300. u can come down to bangalore and get all the products naveen mentioned without B/W and get a good deal and install it in bangalore itself.
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17th August 2007, 14:10	#11
askids BHPian Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Mysore Posts: 73 Thanked: 3 Times	i have read that 5950 is usb ready only..i mean to say that it still needs a usb adapter cable which will cost another 3-4K. Where as 7950 already has the it builtin and usb drives can be used directly. If that's the case, wont it be better to go for 7950 @ 9K rather than going for 5950 @ 7K + extra for usb adapter cable?
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17th August 2007, 16:44	#14
deepak_ms BHPian Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: KA55 / KA50 Posts: 196 Thanked: 6 Times	yeap... both need a cable..the shop i went to enquire told 5950 is USB ready but some thing must be adjusted , so he needs to sent it to Pioneer authorised dealer to get it done. but 7950 does not require that. 7950 comes with the cable. where as for 5950 we need to buy it. and usb adapter cable which will not cost 3-4K. max it may cost somewhere around 500Rs.
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17th August 2007, 17:26	#15
panky12345 Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 2,697 Thanked: 171 Times	As far as I'm aware, 7950 has a plug'n' play option. no need of buying seperate cables.
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