Suggestions on ICE setup - Zen

Speedzone · 30th August 2007, 16:36

Hi Guys,
Need some advice on the ICE setup i have in my Zen.

Setup

Head Unit - Pioneer 6950IB
Front speakers - 607C
Back speakers - GTO 937
JBL GTO 60, 4 channel Amp (Driving the Sub and rear speakers)
Pioneer Baby Amp 4 channel(Driving the front speakers, forgot the model)
Boss Wiring Kits

Initially when i had a single amp, Bass was a little on the higher side and vocal was low. Even after tuning, i could not get the vocal part increased, which gave me a good reason to buy a 2nd hand Pioneer baby Amp to drive the front speakers, which actually improved my vocal part(Not considerably).

Questions i have is,

How is the Pioneer baby amp performance? do i have chuck it and go for a new one?
Will fixing component and tweeter setup make a difference in vocal and Bass part?
Anything else i can add to have a better performance.

Cheers

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DerAlte · 30th August 2007, 16:54

From what you have described, it sounds like your setup was not set & tuned properly.

Could you describe the settings on your HU, JBL cross-overs as well as the amps?

Most users have the fronts speakers on the amp, rears on the HU and the sub driven from the bridged 2nd pair on the amp. That way you get good front soundstage, decent rear fill and good bass.

Though you haven't mentioned which sub you have, your setup - with sub and rear ovals on amp - WAS a bit bass-heavy. But, with an amp driving the front speakers now, it can be tuned to how you want it.

Speedzone · 30th August 2007, 17:03

I have JBL 12" dual coil, 1200 watts sub driven by the JBL Amp, which also drives my rear speakers

BTW i dont have the cross overs, just the front speakers connected to the HU

Any suggestion on who can tune it as per my requirements, nearby Vijayanagar

Cheers

DerAlte · 30th August 2007, 21:06

JBL 607C SHOULD have a small black cross-over box, to which the actual speakers are connected. Perhaps the installer has hidden it out of sight somewhere?

No one in the Vijayanagar area, unfortunately. The best place to get your tuning checked would be to go to Sound Factor (crossing of Lavelle and Vittal Mallya Road, corner building, ground floor; it is on Lavelle Road coming from Airlines hotel side). I am sure they would be able to help out do the small change in wiring (shift the front speakers to the amp, rears to HU or the Pio amp) and tuning.

Where did you buy and install the JBL stuff from?

Speedzone · 31st August 2007, 10:06

Actually, my brother got that installed from one of the dealers in JC road, so i'm not sure of the black cross over box...

Thanks for the address, i guess, i'll get it checked again, this weekend

By any chance do you know the name of the shop

DerAlte · 31st August 2007, 11:14

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Originally Posted by Speedzone

By any chance do you know the name of the shop

The name of the shop is Sound Factor! It's the JBL brand shop, so you can't miss it.

navin · 31st August 2007, 16:28

why not use the pio amp for the rear and the JBL amp for the front and sub.

30th August 2007, 16:36	#1
Speedzone Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Suggestions on ICE setup - Zen Hi Guys, Need some advice on the ICE setup i have in my Zen. *Setup* Head Unit - Pioneer 6950IB Front speakers - 607C Back speakers - GTO 937 JBL GTO 60, 4 channel Amp (Driving the Sub and rear speakers) Pioneer Baby Amp 4 channel(Driving the front speakers, forgot the model) Boss Wiring Kits Initially when i had a single amp, Bass was a little on the higher side and vocal was low. Even after tuning, i could not get the vocal part increased, which gave me a good reason to buy a 2nd hand Pioneer baby Amp to drive the front speakers, which actually improved my vocal part(Not considerably). Questions i have is, How is the Pioneer baby amp performance? do i have chuck it and go for a new one? Will fixing component and tweeter setup make a difference in vocal and Bass part? Anything else i can add to have a better performance. Cheers ----------------------------------------------------------------------- " *God give me lots of patience... but please hurry up*"
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30th August 2007, 16:54	#2
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,069 Thanked: 2,919 Times	From what you have described, it sounds like your setup was not set & tuned properly. Could you describe the settings on your HU, JBL cross-overs as well as the amps? Most users have the fronts speakers on the amp, rears on the HU and the sub driven from the bridged 2nd pair on the amp. That way you get good front soundstage, decent rear fill and good bass. Though you haven't mentioned which sub you have, your setup - with sub and rear ovals on amp - WAS a bit bass-heavy. But, with an amp driving the front speakers now, it can be tuned to how you want it.
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30th August 2007, 17:03	#3
Speedzone Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	I have JBL 12" dual coil, 1200 watts sub driven by the JBL Amp, which also drives my rear speakers BTW i dont have the cross overs, just the front speakers connected to the HU Any suggestion on who can tune it as per my requirements, nearby Vijayanagar Cheers
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30th August 2007, 21:06	#4
DerAlte Senior - BHPian Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 8,069 Thanked: 2,919 Times	JBL 607C SHOULD have a small black cross-over box, to which the actual speakers are connected. Perhaps the installer has hidden it out of sight somewhere? No one in the Vijayanagar area, unfortunately. The best place to get your tuning checked would be to go to Sound Factor (crossing of Lavelle and Vittal Mallya Road, corner building, ground floor; it is on Lavelle Road coming from Airlines hotel side). I am sure they would be able to help out do the small change in wiring (shift the front speakers to the amp, rears to HU or the Pio amp) and tuning. Where did you buy and install the JBL stuff from?
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31st August 2007, 10:06	#5
Speedzone Newbie Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Bangalore Posts: 19 Thanked: 0 Times	Actually, my brother got that installed from one of the dealers in JC road, so i'm not sure of the black cross over box... Thanks for the address, i guess, i'll get it checked again, this weekend By any chance do you know the name of the shop
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31st August 2007, 16:28	#7
navin Team-BHP Support Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Mumbai Posts: 25,196 Thanked: 9,290 Times	why not use the pio amp for the rear and the JBL amp for the front and sub.
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