Amplifier - 2Ch or 4Ch?

determinus · 9th November 2007, 19:32

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

I don't want to buy a separate amp for the sub. I want to get a 4Ch amp to power the components, and power the sub. Will the GT5 do that?

My RF mention was just that, a mention. Using a 4 channel to drive a pair of components and the rest bridged to the sub is the most popular and default 4.1 recommendation on this forum. Though it is better to save up and invest in better components, a CS60.4 (or whatever it is called now) will do the job for you. How well is the question. If it is a free air sub, ie., in infinite baffle design it should do pretty decent given your no-where-near-loud listening modes.

vebmetal · 10th November 2007, 01:07

What's a "free air" sub, and can I install one in a hatchback (Zen Estilo) ?

rocksterraghu · 10th November 2007, 01:07

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Originally Posted by vebmetal

By sufficiently power it, do you mean with regard to SQ or SPL? Because loudness is not a requirement of mine. I just like the sound to be wholesome, and that's why I need the bass. I don't want to throw a party in my car

For your requirement, the GT5 should do the job. My friend is running a GT4-12 off a 60.2 (It is a to-be-upgraded setup) and I can tell you that it is not all that bad. I just didn't want you to expect too much from it.

danny · 11th November 2007, 13:07

Thanks @vb for inviting me to your thread. We have so many things in common.

1. A New Zen Estilo
2. Hunting for a decent ICE
3. Tight Budget
4. I don't need the boom-boom of a sub, but I do want to feel the dhug-dhug of the bass drum (I hope that makes sense ). I don't care about volume as much as I care for my rapidly deteriorating hearing, so I want clear bass, but it doesn't need to be loud.

5. I don't want to get 6x9s primarily because I value the boot space of my car, and don't want to fit a MDF board there

Thanks for the thread, I'm following every inch of it, I'm almost convinced with what I need to buy, and what I will leave for upgrade!

Cheers to you and all the fellow members who have contributed so far!
I shall keep you blokes updated on what I install.

vebmetal · 11th November 2007, 18:56

Cool, Danny, do let me know what you finally go with!

@rockster: Should I stick to a 10" sub?

low_bass_makker · 11th November 2007, 19:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by vebmetal

Should I stick to a 10" sub?

Why ?

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vebmetal · 12th November 2007, 01:17

Well, rocksterraghu said that the GT5 "should do the job" and that I shouldn't expect too much from it. So my question was whether (given my requirements of not being very loud) I would get a better and wholesome sound using a 10" sub with the GT5 (or similar amp) instead of a 12" one.

navin · 12th November 2007, 11:34

Quote:

Originally Posted by vebmetal

What's a "free air" sub, and can I install one in a hatchback (Zen Estilo) ?

a free air sub is one that does not have a box.

navin · 12th November 2007, 11:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by danny

4. I don't need the boom-boom of a sub, but I do want to feel the dhug-dhug of the bass drum
5. I don't want to get 6x9s primarily because I value the boot space of my car, and don't want to fit a MDF board there

a boxed sub will take up more room that a pair of 6x9s on a MDF board. however you can make a boxed sub that is removable. does that option agree with you?

vebmetal · 12th November 2007, 12:49

^ yes, exactly! Most of the time I don't need to carry luggage (atleast nothing that wouldn't fit in the rear seat anyway), but I do want to have the option to remove it if and when required.

How much can I get a removable box made for? I am thinking of getting a 12" sub (Alpine or Rockford Fosgate) from abroad.

mithun · 13th November 2007, 07:57

Quote:

Originally Posted by navin

a free air sub is one that does not have a box.

Will a boxed sub provide better bass ?

navin · 13th November 2007, 11:39

[quote=vebmetal;623630How much can I get a removable box made for? I am thinking of getting a 12" sub (Alpine or Rockford Fosgate) from abroad.[/QUOTE]

same as a regualr box you only have to add a Speakon connector.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mithun

Will a boxed sub provide better bass ?

a boxed sub will produce less SPL but tighter bass than an IB sub.

vebmetal · 13th November 2007, 20:20

Will the box with a speakon connector still be within Rs. 2,000? (btw is 'Speakon' a brand or a type of connector?)

Autophile · 13th November 2007, 21:24

Quote:

Originally Posted by vebmetal

btw is 'Speakon' a brand or a type of connector?

Speak On is a type of connector which is registered to its original manufacturer Neutrik. It is generally used in proaudio in connection amplifiers and speakers.

vebmetal · 21st November 2007, 01:28

Here's the deal: after some introspection, and a wake up call to the reality that Team-BHP true to it's promise was putting my budget towards 2.5 times it was supposed to be, I have to resign myself to ICE that stays within budget or no ICE at all

So can I get the following in 15K? (b&w preferable to the extent that it fits the budget, otherwise grey):

4 channel amp
Front components
Sub (or would getting a tray and a pair of 6x9s be cheaper?)
All wiring required (decent brand - something that's not trash)

10th November 2007, 01:07	#32
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	What's a "free air" sub, and can I install one in a hatchback (Zen Estilo) ?
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11th November 2007, 13:07	#34
danny BHPian Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: ,hjjh Posts: 38 Thanked: 0 Times	Thanks @vb for inviting me to your thread. We have so many things in common. 1. A New Zen Estilo 2. Hunting for a decent ICE 3. Tight Budget 4. I don't need the boom-boom of a sub, but I do want to feel the dhug-dhug of the bass drum (I hope that makes sense ). I don't care about volume as much as I care for my rapidly deteriorating hearing, so I want clear bass, but it doesn't need to be loud. 5. I don't want to get 6x9s primarily because I value the boot space of my car, and don't want to fit a MDF board there Thanks for the thread, I'm following every inch of it, I'm almost convinced with what I need to buy, and what I will leave for upgrade! Cheers to you and all the fellow members who have contributed so far! I shall keep you blokes updated on what I install.
	() Thanks

11th November 2007, 18:56	#35
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	Cool, Danny, do let me know what you finally go with! @rockster: Should I stick to a 10" sub?
	() Thanks

12th November 2007, 01:17	#37
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	Well, rocksterraghu said that the GT5 "should do the job" and that I shouldn't expect too much from it. So my question was whether (given my requirements of not being very loud) I would get a better and wholesome sound using a 10" sub with the GT5 (or similar amp) instead of a 12" one.
	() Thanks

12th November 2007, 12:49	#40
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	^ yes, exactly! Most of the time I don't need to carry luggage (atleast nothing that wouldn't fit in the rear seat anyway), but I do want to have the option to remove it if and when required. How much can I get a removable box made for? I am thinking of getting a 12" sub (Alpine or Rockford Fosgate) from abroad.
	() Thanks

13th November 2007, 20:20	#43
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	Will the box with a speakon connector still be within Rs. 2,000? (btw is 'Speakon' a brand or a type of connector?)
	() Thanks

21st November 2007, 01:28	#45
vebmetal BHPian Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: New Delhi Posts: 798 Thanked: 21 Times	Here's the deal: after some introspection, and a wake up call to the reality that Team-BHP true to it's promise was putting my budget towards 2.5 times it was supposed to be, I have to resign myself to ICE that stays within budget or no ICE at all So can I get the following in 15K? (b&w preferable to the extent that it fits the budget, otherwise grey): 4 channel amp Front components Sub (or would getting a tray and a pair of 6x9s be cheaper?) All wiring required (decent brand - something that's not trash)
	() Thanks